Agree. Hayden is decent, a solid FR RB4. Small guy with great vision who can’t break tackles. True FR, not yoked up yet. Now, in a year or two we might need to plan around him.
OSU has one stud out for the season and the other two have been hurt.
Henderson isn’t a threat as a running back, for whatever reason he isn’t hitting the hole right. Foot injury that won’t heal. He is absolutely a menace as an H/slot guy. If Day suddenly finds those pages of the playbook and throw his way, could be trouble.
Willams is their bell cow. Had his knee scoped 5 weeks back then tore up his hand at Penn State. Came back and rolled his ankle 2 weeks ago. If he is 80-90% he is their best back and a load to tackle. If he sits, we’re happy.
Last year that was true. This year they’re starting true interior OLs inside. Their staring RG has been hurt but playing. He might be out, his replacement would be another interior linemen who has played well.
Harrison isn’t a guy who takes the top off a D. He is a guy who will make impossible catches all day long. He does get YAC yards but most teams bracket him so he doesn’t get loose very often.
We have to watch their TE. He can run, LBs can’t cover him and DBs struggle to tackle him in space. Also, 32, their RB is really dangerous in the passing game. Fortunately he isn’t great in their run game.
With OSU it’s often the guy we’ve never heard of who lights us up. Olave as a FR comes to mind, he wasn’t on anyone’s radar. Their own fans barely knew who he was.
Harrison might be the best WR they’ve ever had. Dude is legit. I think we just assume he’ll get a few catches and hope he doesn’t get loose on us.
Better watch their TE. They’re not known for throwing to them but this one is getting the ball a lot.
It’s always good to see them have to scramble to fill a spot in their class. Unfortunately they’ll probably find a decent replacement. Would have been much better if Fletcher waited till signing day!!
I remember thinking we scored a huge win when we plucked Derrick Green from their greasy mitts. Their fans were pissed, they swore Green was a silent to them and complained to no end about “settling” for some kid no one ever heard of from Missouri. Ezekiel Elliott..worst part, we got stuck with a bust.
If those 3 played great against anyone else I might buy this argument. Unfortunately they’re 3 of the 10 worst teams because they’re consistently bad. No way to spin it.
Maryland is a legit offense and frankly the only decent O we’ve seen. We did fairly well against them, a few sloppy moments but overall solid. PSU/OSU are the only real tests left.
It’s always interesting to watch reactions to big news. Two weeks ago MacDonald leaves and it’s all “good luck and thanks” MacDonald took over a great unit. Don Brown recruited extremely well and all we needed was a tactician to make it work.
Gattis came into a god-awful job. Very limited talent, a series of transfer QBs so no QB room culture. A bunch of misses on the recruiting trail. We had no identity, an OL that couldn’t block air and an offensive culture that was…offensive. The RB room coached by Nepotism Jay was garbage.
2021 we finally have success. Good chemistry was evident. You don’t play that kind of ball if you have a malcontent OC. You don’t get cohesion if Gattis isn’t a good OC and the position coaches didn’t respect him.
Finally, if he was truly such a drag on the program, send him packing the day after UGA. Likewise, if he wasn’t a great OC what does it say about the guy who hired him, the guy who has made bad OC hires before?!?
Bo played for Woody, his only connection to OSU was 5 years of his assistant coaching career.
Gary played for Bo at OSU and was hired on Bo’s first staff then stuck around 25 years. Pretty clear he was loyal to Bo not his U.
Fickell played 4 years and coached 16 for them. If he came to Ann Arbor he’d be burning his bridge. He turned down Notre Dame which was his only other dream job. No one at OSU would have held that against him.
OSU OL was a inconsistent this year and Studrawa was a lousy recruiter. He lasted 6 years because typically the OL was very solid.
They recruited a ton of great tackles but missed on interior OL. Moving tackles inside doesn’t really work for run blocking. They were afraid to lose younger guys to transfer.
Frye is an upgrade and their DC is a massive upgrade. He specializes w/LBs and they need help there. I don’t think they’re done. Al Washington, their special teams coach and Coombs are all said to be gone too.
They won’t be worse next year for changing up their staff. Chopped some dead weight.
His brother has been in Baltimore for 14 years. Longevity is based on the right franchise hiring the right coach.
Jim won’t leave for just any NFL job. However, he is savvy and smart enough to know there are a handful of franchises with the right combo of ownership, management and players under contract that will insure long-term success.
The day he sees that combo, he goes. No question he loves Michigan but he spent 20 years in the NFL and has come so close to winning a Super Bowl that it has to be a fire burning in his belly for it.
Their alleged second string QB, McCord, isn’t that great. True FR, started against Akron and played a few other times. Immobile and sackable. He has been there since Jan so he has the job. Buckeyes say he’ll be gone by April.
Now, their “3rd string QB” reclassified true FR who showed up halfway through fall camp and has 3 snaps on the season. He is literally the highest rated player OSU has ever had. A 5* 1.00 24/7 rated. Basically Trevor Lawrence or Tua Tugviola caliber…Ewers is the kind of kid who goes into a game and never relinquishes the job. It would completely suck to see him go off.
I hope to hell if their starter is out we don’t knock out their back up. I also think this is internet BS and Stroud will be fine.
OSU was rushing three and dropping their DE into a zone coverage. Cheap rushing yards based on the coverage, and Purdue still only gained 91 for the day.
The OSU strategy was to keep Bell from getting loose. It worked. He got 115 yards not 225 like he did to Iowa and MSU. They played a soft zone and once they realized they could name their score on Purdue’s D they didn’t much care if Purdue went on 10 play, 5 minute drives.
There is zero chance they run this game plan against us. They’ll play the run and vary their coverages. I’d expect a lot of blitzes out of them. Better to watch what their D did against MSU…here is to hoping we have much better answers.
OSU’s LT is All-B1G caliber, has a mid-first round draft grade, third tackle overall and their RT is a bigger, stronger but younger version. Let’s put it this way, their starting RT from last year is considered a top-10 NFL OT prospect and he moved inside to guard so the 6’8 365 kid could play tackle. They aren’t weak spots to be sure.
Suffice to say, we have the best DE’s they’ve seen all year…Karlaftis at Purdue is right there but it’s easy to scheme for one guy, not so easy for two.
An elite QB would be nice but the so-called QB whisperer has been mute since he got here. Shea was a 5* #1 in his class and that’s the best Harbaugh could do? You think Harbaugh develops Burrow as well as Brady did or as well as Day did with a first year starter two years in a row? Starting to think Luck was a transcendent college QB and Harbaugh just managed not to screw him up.
I’d add an elite RB, considerably better OL and a much deeper DL. But yeah, those 4 things + a better game day coach and we might be a playoff team.
Meyer and Saban have 9 national titles in the past 13 years and not a single QB from any of those teams is even close to being an NFL starter. OSU fans aren’t trying to feel good in January by noting historically their QBs have a great NFL playoff record.
Joe Willie Namath is the last legit NFL Star QB either school produced. In that time we’ve won 1/2 of a national title and Bama has won 10+
This is why people give us grief about our relentless pursuit of “moral victories”
I remember when Najee Harris was supposedly a silent commit....greatest bit of fiction I’ve seen posted here!!
How do you recruit 5* RBs with a 3* position coach? When your greatest resume stat is your Dad’s last name it’s kind of easy to understand why we can’t attract elite RBs.
Now we had 5* Green, 4* Walker and 5* Issac yet they were all three colossal busts. Easy to blame the OL, the scheme or the QB...perhaps coaching was a problem too?
It’s far too easy to outrecruit us for elite RBs. Saban, Dabo, Day...even Riley, Herman, Chryst and Dantonio can point at our lack of success developing RBs.
Meyer hired Day, Wilson and Schiano in 2017.
Hired Chris Ash in 2014. Larry Johnson in 2016. He hired Brian Hartline in 2018. Greg Studrawa in 2016 was a big time OL coaching hire.
Withers in 2012, Warriner’s promotion in 2015 and Billy Davis’ hire in 2017 were his bad moves. Keeping Schiano after hiring Grinch was an error as well.
Hard to say he wasn’t making good hires at the end of his tenure.
Stanford offers a nice array of online classes to their students. Athletes or not. MIT, Berkeley, Cal Poly...First rare academic institutions. Welcome to 2020 boomers.
I know academic superiority is our calling card but the silly, antiquated notion that a lecture hall 100-200 level course with 300 people is somehow more conducive to learning than an online course is laughable.
Difference is, Urban hires a young coach who a worked for former assistant (Adazzio) and a close confidant (Chip Kelly) then puts him with Kevin Wilson who has been innovating the same base offense Urban built his entire philosophy on for 30 years. Day takes over, retains Wilson, sprinkles in some Gundy-influence with Yurchich, puts a Tressel guy(Hartline) in the mix. The cohesion and lineage is absurd.
Harbaugh, an ardent and successful WCO/Pro-style guy hires a longtime James Franklin position coach with zero play calling experience who wants to run an antiquated mid 2000’s spread and the only guy on staff who has any play calling experience is Ed Warriner who was unceremoniously fired at baggage claim just before Meyer hired Day to replace him.
It isn’t the graphics department that makes the disparity.
We’ll lose 1-2 guys if we pursue another transfer. It’s gotta stop. McCaffery and Milton aren’t going to sit behind another transfer and Costello isn’t coming here for a masters.
At a certain point it will kill our recruiting if we keep going the transfer route.
Let’s see the so-called QB guru develop a kid. I’m beginning to think Luck was David Shaw’s work and Harbaugh just gets credit for being there.
I guess that’s a moral victory for us, eh? Who are we signing at QB in 2020?
They have 3 guys finish in the top 6 of voting and a graduate wins the trophy while lavishing praise on them, hugging their HC and expressing gratitude to their program.
Yeah, that’ll teach ‘em!
CJ Stroud just committed to them and their other 4* QB reaffirmed. I guess the idea that the #2 guy can transfer and win a Heisman helped. Wonder where they got that idea?
Our OL sucked against Wisconsin. Harbaugh sat our hot hand at RB and neither QB had time to find our receivers who weren’t open. Our D sucked against Wisconsin. They did whatever they wanted against us.
A great QB wouldn’t have helped us, we weren’t blocking their DL/LB well enough to win that game.
If our defense played 4 quarters against PSU instead of two, yeah we beat them. Patterson had a solid second half in that game and damn near brought us back
UConn was 19th in total D in 2012 and 49th in 2011 under Brown.
Playing the likes of Temple, Rutgers and BC the Huskies went 10-14 in Brown’s two seasons as DC. They we
I mean if we played a Big Easy schedule we’d be 12-0 every year, have the number 1 D and O and look like world beaters.
Don Brown made his bones coaching scrappy defenses in backwater conferences. He gets to us with a pedigree and does great against 90% of the schedule. It’s what he does against the elite offenses that leaves a lot to be desired.
My wife and I spend about 6 weeks a year in SF. Mix of work and fun.
Golden Gate Park is a treasure. The botanical gardens, academy of science museum and deYoung are worth it.
We stay up in Portrero Hill which is a great neighborhood in the SE side. Good food, some cool little shops. Drop down into Dogpatch for a few more stops. Not far from the Chase Center and a bunch of new SF on down to the ball park then over to Embarcadero.
North Beach is a great neighborhood.
Union Square and Fisherman’s Wharf are tourist traps. Skip them.
A week in SF will more than cover it. I’d look at 4-5 days in SF and a couple days north into the hills.
I live about 6 hours north of the city. Marin/Sonoma/Mendocino are worth the trip. I really like the coast up by Stinson Beach but the drive to the town of Mendocino is a good overnight.
Our depth chart is more daunting. Three returning QBs and Harbaugh leans toward red shirting the true FR. Three incoming transfers in 5 years isn’t a great selling point either.
It will be better because they won’t spend 6 games running the offense like three blind mice. No disrespect to the players, it’s basically learning a new language and dance.
it’s really hard to install a new system. Two off seasons for it to click completely.
I’m completely sold on McCaffery as a passer. Not sold on him as a runner. Less than 100 snaps and two game-ending injuries? Afraid he might be a little fragile. Milton is rugged with a huge arm. If he gets command as a passer, might be our guy?
Yes, Ohio State neglected Ohio in the 90’s. It was one of the knocks on John Cooper. He was bringing in all kinds of national recruits and he didn’t emphasize the rivalry. We were landing top-notch Ohio kids left and right and they don’t need any history lessons on The Game.
OSU points at Paris Campbell, Darron Lee, Denzel Ward, Marshon Lattimore, Sam Hubbard...all recent Ohio “cogs” who are starting in the NFL right now. Kids today know Desmond and Charles as two old guys on TV, they watched Ohio kids blow up at OSU.
They have a better pitch for the 5-6 elite kids in that state.
Where we can make hay is with the diamonds in the rough. Ohio produces stud OL’s and LBs who get 3*s because the recruiting services don’t get out to see them play. Dantonio beat OSU 3 times in the past 7 years with 25 Ohio kids who got overlooked by OSU.
Don Brown absolutely had an answer for JT Barrett in 2016/17. They were not moving the ball well on us all game. In 2016 it was 2OT with a horrible spot. In 2017 we were leading until Barrett went down and Haskins came in and went 9/9 with 2 TD's and led a comeback. Those games were lost because our offense was inept, can't blame the defense, you beat most teams you hold under 20 in regulation.
2014/15 OSU was so talented they could simply out-athlete almost everyone they played. We had fairly young defenses both years.
OSU has evolved considerably since the Braxton Miller/JT Barrett read option days. I think Brown had great game plans for JT Barrett. He wasn't going to throw for 300 to beat us.
Very clear that the 2018 OSU offense was radically different and a departure from anything they have ever had before. Haskins ate us alive, Brown had no adjustments for the crossing routes and their passing game was on fire against us. They spent the 4th quarter turtling against us, could have scored 80 if that was their objective. I would say that is the outlier in this conversation, we won't see that again.
2019 they hit us with an entirely different approach, one that looked a lot more like pre-Urban OSU than his read option offense. They spent the entire PSU game showing us exactly what they planned to do against us. They lined up, ran bash and power right at us all day long, put the game on Dobbins. I think they threw two or three crossing routes all day and Fields hardly ran at all. They had the deep routes all day long, thankfully the wind was a factor so they did not connect. Neither PSU nor we could stop it, both of us allegedly had great run defenses.
Fields played that game with a sprained MCL and it was clear he was not looking to run the ball and his mobility was limited. Its scary to think that OSU played that game with a QB who was less than 100%. In all likelihood he will be a more complete QB next year and some of their rising WR's might be the best they've had in the past 20 years. Its not going to get any easier to scheme against them.
Day gets a lot of credit but Kevin Wilson is the straw that stirs the drink for OSU. His offenses going back to Oklahoma have been great at adapting to the personnel he has and exploiting every weakness his opponents present. When he was at IU he gave everyone trouble with a vastly outmanned offense. Now he has insane talent. Best we can hope, someone give his ass a job.
Lloyd Carr and Mack Brown both led their teams down a path of mediocrity. Two fine coaches who stayed 2-3 years too long. Texas and Michigan are in similar situations years removed from those two being cast aside.
I always hoped Jim Tressel would do the same at OSU. He was heading that way, his last couple classes were starting to taper off and by 2013-14 he might have had one wheel in the ditch. Depth wasn’t being restocked. Instead those bastards fall face first into scandal and spend one year sucking before being better than they ever were under Tressel.
Seriously? He is 6’5 220 and has been knocked out of 2 games as a back up. He is a pocket passer with a good arm but no way he can be a runner and survive 12 games.
Milton has the size and speed to run zone read but his accuracy is questionable.
Trace McArmpunt wasn’t a great QB, he had an all pro RB for 2 seasons to bail him out. His SR year was garbage. His best attribute was his ability to run and avoid getting crushed.
McCaffery has what, 2 game-ending injuries in his first 35 passing attempts? Kid is a porcelain doll.
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He is a true FR who showed up in June. Not strong enough yet to break tackles. Fairly small guy. Just put up 5 per carry, he isn’t a menace.
He has speed and vision. I was actually impressed with how he saw the hole and hit it.
He’d be RB4 if their other 3 RBs weren’t hurt.
Best case, he starts.
Agree. Hayden is decent, a solid FR RB4. Small guy with great vision who can’t break tackles. True FR, not yoked up yet. Now, in a year or two we might need to plan around him.
OSU has one stud out for the season and the other two have been hurt.
Henderson isn’t a threat as a running back, for whatever reason he isn’t hitting the hole right. Foot injury that won’t heal. He is absolutely a menace as an H/slot guy. If Day suddenly finds those pages of the playbook and throw his way, could be trouble.
Willams is their bell cow. Had his knee scoped 5 weeks back then tore up his hand at Penn State. Came back and rolled his ankle 2 weeks ago. If he is 80-90% he is their best back and a load to tackle. If he sits, we’re happy.
Last year that was true. This year they’re starting true interior OLs inside. Their staring RG has been hurt but playing. He might be out, his replacement would be another interior linemen who has played well.
Harrison isn’t a guy who takes the top off a D. He is a guy who will make impossible catches all day long. He does get YAC yards but most teams bracket him so he doesn’t get loose very often.
We have to watch their TE. He can run, LBs can’t cover him and DBs struggle to tackle him in space. Also, 32, their RB is really dangerous in the passing game. Fortunately he isn’t great in their run game.
Even with pressure Stroud went for 395 on us. Give him all day and he’ll go Caleb Willams on us.
With OSU it’s often the guy we’ve never heard of who lights us up. Olave as a FR comes to mind, he wasn’t on anyone’s radar. Their own fans barely knew who he was.
Harrison might be the best WR they’ve ever had. Dude is legit. I think we just assume he’ll get a few catches and hope he doesn’t get loose on us.
Better watch their TE. They’re not known for throwing to them but this one is getting the ball a lot.
OSU’s run blocking is average. Their pass protection is top notch. We will have to blitz to get pressure and they pick it up well.
JJ’s footwork needs work. Arm strength is +100 but his accuracy and touch come and go.
it’s not a new problem but it’s not fixed either.
Hats off, this guy is legit. No question about it, I thought he was going to be a shadow of himself.
His patience and burst is NFL caliber.
The Illinois DB could have hawked that ball.
That’s a pick in the league. Don’t kid yourself, it was a fluttering arm punt.
75% is better than RB3 or RB4.
He may be in rough shape tomorrow but much better by Friday. Illinois RB couldn’t put weight on his leg a week ago and he damn near ran for 150.
Oregon-Washington are on deck and will join the next round of expansion regardless of UCLA and the board of Regents in CA knows it.
UC Berkeley draws a lot of water in the state but they aren’t at all attractive to the B1G. This is all theatre to appease their fragile egos.
Ok, “revenue surplus”
It’s always good to see them have to scramble to fill a spot in their class. Unfortunately they’ll probably find a decent replacement. Would have been much better if Fletcher waited till signing day!!
I remember thinking we scored a huge win when we plucked Derrick Green from their greasy mitts. Their fans were pissed, they swore Green was a silent to them and complained to no end about “settling” for some kid no one ever heard of from Missouri. Ezekiel Elliott..worst part, we got stuck with a bust.
If those 3 played great against anyone else I might buy this argument. Unfortunately they’re 3 of the 10 worst teams because they’re consistently bad. No way to spin it.
Maryland is a legit offense and frankly the only decent O we’ve seen. We did fairly well against them, a few sloppy moments but overall solid. PSU/OSU are the only real tests left.
It’s always interesting to watch reactions to big news. Two weeks ago MacDonald leaves and it’s all “good luck and thanks” MacDonald took over a great unit. Don Brown recruited extremely well and all we needed was a tactician to make it work.
Gattis came into a god-awful job. Very limited talent, a series of transfer QBs so no QB room culture. A bunch of misses on the recruiting trail. We had no identity, an OL that couldn’t block air and an offensive culture that was…offensive. The RB room coached by Nepotism Jay was garbage.
2021 we finally have success. Good chemistry was evident. You don’t play that kind of ball if you have a malcontent OC. You don’t get cohesion if Gattis isn’t a good OC and the position coaches didn’t respect him.
Finally, if he was truly such a drag on the program, send him packing the day after UGA. Likewise, if he wasn’t a great OC what does it say about the guy who hired him, the guy who has made bad OC hires before?!?
Bo played for Woody, his only connection to OSU was 5 years of his assistant coaching career.
Gary played for Bo at OSU and was hired on Bo’s first staff then stuck around 25 years. Pretty clear he was loyal to Bo not his U.
Fickell played 4 years and coached 16 for them. If he came to Ann Arbor he’d be burning his bridge. He turned down Notre Dame which was his only other dream job. No one at OSU would have held that against him.
OSU OL was a inconsistent this year and Studrawa was a lousy recruiter. He lasted 6 years because typically the OL was very solid.
They recruited a ton of great tackles but missed on interior OL. Moving tackles inside doesn’t really work for run blocking. They were afraid to lose younger guys to transfer.
Frye is an upgrade and their DC is a massive upgrade. He specializes w/LBs and they need help there. I don’t think they’re done. Al Washington, their special teams coach and Coombs are all said to be gone too.
They won’t be worse next year for changing up their staff. Chopped some dead weight.
His brother has been in Baltimore for 14 years. Longevity is based on the right franchise hiring the right coach.
Jim won’t leave for just any NFL job. However, he is savvy and smart enough to know there are a handful of franchises with the right combo of ownership, management and players under contract that will insure long-term success.
The day he sees that combo, he goes. No question he loves Michigan but he spent 20 years in the NFL and has come so close to winning a Super Bowl that it has to be a fire burning in his belly for it.
There is a one time transfer rule in place. Not much has changed.
The portal is wide open. Teams who use it will have an advantage.
Their alleged second string QB, McCord, isn’t that great. True FR, started against Akron and played a few other times. Immobile and sackable. He has been there since Jan so he has the job. Buckeyes say he’ll be gone by April.
Now, their “3rd string QB” reclassified true FR who showed up halfway through fall camp and has 3 snaps on the season. He is literally the highest rated player OSU has ever had. A 5* 1.00 24/7 rated. Basically Trevor Lawrence or Tua Tugviola caliber…Ewers is the kind of kid who goes into a game and never relinquishes the job. It would completely suck to see him go off.
I hope to hell if their starter is out we don’t knock out their back up. I also think this is internet BS and Stroud will be fine.
OSU was rushing three and dropping their DE into a zone coverage. Cheap rushing yards based on the coverage, and Purdue still only gained 91 for the day.
The OSU strategy was to keep Bell from getting loose. It worked. He got 115 yards not 225 like he did to Iowa and MSU. They played a soft zone and once they realized they could name their score on Purdue’s D they didn’t much care if Purdue went on 10 play, 5 minute drives.
There is zero chance they run this game plan against us. They’ll play the run and vary their coverages. I’d expect a lot of blitzes out of them. Better to watch what their D did against MSU…here is to hoping we have much better answers.
OSU’s LT is All-B1G caliber, has a mid-first round draft grade, third tackle overall and their RT is a bigger, stronger but younger version. Let’s put it this way, their starting RT from last year is considered a top-10 NFL OT prospect and he moved inside to guard so the 6’8 365 kid could play tackle. They aren’t weak spots to be sure.
Suffice to say, we have the best DE’s they’ve seen all year…Karlaftis at Purdue is right there but it’s easy to scheme for one guy, not so easy for two.
An elite QB would be nice but the so-called QB whisperer has been mute since he got here. Shea was a 5* #1 in his class and that’s the best Harbaugh could do? You think Harbaugh develops Burrow as well as Brady did or as well as Day did with a first year starter two years in a row? Starting to think Luck was a transcendent college QB and Harbaugh just managed not to screw him up.
I’d add an elite RB, considerably better OL and a much deeper DL. But yeah, those 4 things + a better game day coach and we might be a playoff team.
Meyer and Saban have 9 national titles in the past 13 years and not a single QB from any of those teams is even close to being an NFL starter. OSU fans aren’t trying to feel good in January by noting historically their QBs have a great NFL playoff record.
Joe Willie Namath is the last legit NFL Star QB either school produced. In that time we’ve won 1/2 of a national title and Bama has won 10+
This is why people give us grief about our relentless pursuit of “moral victories”
I remember when Najee Harris was supposedly a silent commit....greatest bit of fiction I’ve seen posted here!!
How do you recruit 5* RBs with a 3* position coach? When your greatest resume stat is your Dad’s last name it’s kind of easy to understand why we can’t attract elite RBs.
Now we had 5* Green, 4* Walker and 5* Issac yet they were all three colossal busts. Easy to blame the OL, the scheme or the QB...perhaps coaching was a problem too?
It’s far too easy to outrecruit us for elite RBs. Saban, Dabo, Day...even Riley, Herman, Chryst and Dantonio can point at our lack of success developing RBs.
Better coaching starts with an end to nepotism.
Meyer hired Day, Wilson and Schiano in 2017.
Hired Chris Ash in 2014. Larry Johnson in 2016. He hired Brian Hartline in 2018. Greg Studrawa in 2016 was a big time OL coaching hire.
Withers in 2012, Warriner’s promotion in 2015 and Billy Davis’ hire in 2017 were his bad moves. Keeping Schiano after hiring Grinch was an error as well.
Hard to say he wasn’t making good hires at the end of his tenure.
Stanford offers a nice array of online classes to their students. Athletes or not. MIT, Berkeley, Cal Poly...First rare academic institutions. Welcome to 2020 boomers.
I know academic superiority is our calling card but the silly, antiquated notion that a lecture hall 100-200 level course with 300 people is somehow more conducive to learning than an online course is laughable.
Difference is, Urban hires a young coach who a worked for former assistant (Adazzio) and a close confidant (Chip Kelly) then puts him with Kevin Wilson who has been innovating the same base offense Urban built his entire philosophy on for 30 years. Day takes over, retains Wilson, sprinkles in some Gundy-influence with Yurchich, puts a Tressel guy(Hartline) in the mix. The cohesion and lineage is absurd.
Harbaugh, an ardent and successful WCO/Pro-style guy hires a longtime James Franklin position coach with zero play calling experience who wants to run an antiquated mid 2000’s spread and the only guy on staff who has any play calling experience is Ed Warriner who was unceremoniously fired at baggage claim just before Meyer hired Day to replace him.
It isn’t the graphics department that makes the disparity.
We’ll lose 1-2 guys if we pursue another transfer. It’s gotta stop. McCaffery and Milton aren’t going to sit behind another transfer and Costello isn’t coming here for a masters.
At a certain point it will kill our recruiting if we keep going the transfer route.
Let’s see the so-called QB guru develop a kid. I’m beginning to think Luck was David Shaw’s work and Harbaugh just gets credit for being there.
Money talks and bull shit walks.
I guess that’s a moral victory for us, eh? Who are we signing at QB in 2020?
They have 3 guys finish in the top 6 of voting and a graduate wins the trophy while lavishing praise on them, hugging their HC and expressing gratitude to their program.
Yeah, that’ll teach ‘em!
CJ Stroud just committed to them and their other 4* QB reaffirmed. I guess the idea that the #2 guy can transfer and win a Heisman helped. Wonder where they got that idea?
If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle.
Our OL sucked against Wisconsin. Harbaugh sat our hot hand at RB and neither QB had time to find our receivers who weren’t open. Our D sucked against Wisconsin. They did whatever they wanted against us.
A great QB wouldn’t have helped us, we weren’t blocking their DL/LB well enough to win that game.
If our defense played 4 quarters against PSU instead of two, yeah we beat them. Patterson had a solid second half in that game and damn near brought us back
UConn was 19th in…
BS
UConn was 19th in total D in 2012 and 49th in 2011 under Brown.
Playing the likes of Temple, Rutgers and BC the Huskies went 10-14 in Brown’s two seasons as DC. They we
I mean if we played a Big Easy schedule we’d be 12-0 every year, have the number 1 D and O and look like world beaters.
Don Brown made his bones coaching scrappy defenses in backwater conferences. He gets to us with a pedigree and does great against 90% of the schedule. It’s what he does against the elite offenses that leaves a lot to be desired.
Najee Harris will he asked to run it down our throats. Stop him and we can beat them. If he erupts we are dead on arrival.
This game is Wisconsin on steroids...literally. If we’re much improved we stand a solid chance. If we play the least bit timid, it’s a blowout.
If he wasn’t cutting into the ESPN CFB pie with his boys at Fox I bet he gets a better ranking.
Fox is making up ground on ESPN and I’m all for that.
Considering Urban took Tressel’s manhood that is a surprise.
My wife and I spend about 6 weeks a year in SF. Mix of work and fun.
Golden Gate Park is a treasure. The botanical gardens, academy of science museum and deYoung are worth it.
We stay up in Portrero Hill which is a great neighborhood in the SE side. Good food, some cool little shops. Drop down into Dogpatch for a few more stops. Not far from the Chase Center and a bunch of new SF on down to the ball park then over to Embarcadero.
North Beach is a great neighborhood.
Union Square and Fisherman’s Wharf are tourist traps. Skip them.
A week in SF will more than cover it. I’d look at 4-5 days in SF and a couple days north into the hills.
I live about 6 hours north of the city. Marin/Sonoma/Mendocino are worth the trip. I really like the coast up by Stinson Beach but the drive to the town of Mendocino is a good overnight.
His wife is from Ohio and his daughters husband is an OSU coach.
Of course they’re OSU homers.
Our depth chart is more daunting. Three returning QBs and Harbaugh leans toward red shirting the true FR. Three incoming transfers in 5 years isn’t a great selling point either.
OSU destroyed us in 2018 with a QB who could put the ball on a receiver in space.
OSU destroyed us in 2019 with power runs and vertical passing.
Don Brown came in to 2019 fully prepared to defend 2018 OSU.
See our problem? Ryan Day and Kevin Wilson will find the weakness and exploit it.
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LSU got a yankee QB.
Burrow is a generational college QB. LSU always has SEC top notch talent but they had some god-awful QBs screw up their chances.
most teams are a transcendent QB away from greatness.
It will be better because they won’t spend 6 games running the offense like three blind mice. No disrespect to the players, it’s basically learning a new language and dance.
it’s really hard to install a new system. Two off seasons for it to click completely.
I’m completely sold on McCaffery as a passer. Not sold on him as a runner. Less than 100 snaps and two game-ending injuries? Afraid he might be a little fragile. Milton is rugged with a huge arm. If he gets command as a passer, might be our guy?
Yes, Ohio State neglected Ohio in the 90’s. It was one of the knocks on John Cooper. He was bringing in all kinds of national recruits and he didn’t emphasize the rivalry. We were landing top-notch Ohio kids left and right and they don’t need any history lessons on The Game.
OSU points at Paris Campbell, Darron Lee, Denzel Ward, Marshon Lattimore, Sam Hubbard...all recent Ohio “cogs” who are starting in the NFL right now. Kids today know Desmond and Charles as two old guys on TV, they watched Ohio kids blow up at OSU.
They have a better pitch for the 5-6 elite kids in that state.
Where we can make hay is with the diamonds in the rough. Ohio produces stud OL’s and LBs who get 3*s because the recruiting services don’t get out to see them play. Dantonio beat OSU 3 times in the past 7 years with 25 Ohio kids who got overlooked by OSU.
I believe this is year 3 of a 4 year plan between Urban and Day. Day turned down P-5 HC jobs after ‘17 to stay on as OC
OSU retained all of Meyer’s key guys- Mariotti, Pantoni and Stamper and basically kept the day-to-day the same.
Day has two great years, goes to the NFL and refreshed Urban goes another 7 years. Day craps the bed next year, Meyer comes back.
Meyer opened a restaurant in town, has an office at OSU...he isn’t in a hurry to leave town.
The USC chatter was his agent pumping up his value. Guy made less than Harbaugh last year.
Don Brown absolutely had an answer for JT Barrett in 2016/17. They were not moving the ball well on us all game. In 2016 it was 2OT with a horrible spot. In 2017 we were leading until Barrett went down and Haskins came in and went 9/9 with 2 TD's and led a comeback. Those games were lost because our offense was inept, can't blame the defense, you beat most teams you hold under 20 in regulation.
2014/15 OSU was so talented they could simply out-athlete almost everyone they played. We had fairly young defenses both years.
OSU has evolved considerably since the Braxton Miller/JT Barrett read option days. I think Brown had great game plans for JT Barrett. He wasn't going to throw for 300 to beat us.
Very clear that the 2018 OSU offense was radically different and a departure from anything they have ever had before. Haskins ate us alive, Brown had no adjustments for the crossing routes and their passing game was on fire against us. They spent the 4th quarter turtling against us, could have scored 80 if that was their objective. I would say that is the outlier in this conversation, we won't see that again.
2019 they hit us with an entirely different approach, one that looked a lot more like pre-Urban OSU than his read option offense. They spent the entire PSU game showing us exactly what they planned to do against us. They lined up, ran bash and power right at us all day long, put the game on Dobbins. I think they threw two or three crossing routes all day and Fields hardly ran at all. They had the deep routes all day long, thankfully the wind was a factor so they did not connect. Neither PSU nor we could stop it, both of us allegedly had great run defenses.
Fields played that game with a sprained MCL and it was clear he was not looking to run the ball and his mobility was limited. Its scary to think that OSU played that game with a QB who was less than 100%. In all likelihood he will be a more complete QB next year and some of their rising WR's might be the best they've had in the past 20 years. Its not going to get any easier to scheme against them.
Day gets a lot of credit but Kevin Wilson is the straw that stirs the drink for OSU. His offenses going back to Oklahoma have been great at adapting to the personnel he has and exploiting every weakness his opponents present. When he was at IU he gave everyone trouble with a vastly outmanned offense. Now he has insane talent. Best we can hope, someone give his ass a job.
Lloyd Carr and Mack Brown both led their teams down a path of mediocrity. Two fine coaches who stayed 2-3 years too long. Texas and Michigan are in similar situations years removed from those two being cast aside.
I always hoped Jim Tressel would do the same at OSU. He was heading that way, his last couple classes were starting to taper off and by 2013-14 he might have had one wheel in the ditch. Depth wasn’t being restocked. Instead those bastards fall face first into scandal and spend one year sucking before being better than they ever were under Tressel.
Seriously? He is 6’5 220 and has been knocked out of 2 games as a back up. He is a pocket passer with a good arm but no way he can be a runner and survive 12 games.
Milton has the size and speed to run zone read but his accuracy is questionable.
Trace McArmpunt wasn’t a great QB, he had an all pro RB for 2 seasons to bail him out. His SR year was garbage. His best attribute was his ability to run and avoid getting crushed.
McCaffery has what, 2 game-ending injuries in his first 35 passing attempts? Kid is a porcelain doll.
Shea had a different OC each of his 4 years. Not easy to have as much success as he did given those circumstances.
thats 4 languages in 4 years.