OT: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees

Submitted by Dunder on April 22nd, 2024 at 9:06 AM

The list for this year includes these four: 

  • Dave Matthews Band
  • Foreigner
  • Peter Frampton
  • Kool & The Gang

I submit for discussion and comparison these bands/performers that are not inductees:

America, The B-52s, Blood Sweat and Tears, ELP, Grand Funk Railroad, The Guess Who, Jethro Tull, Kansas, Marshall Tucker Band, Harry Nilsson, REO Speedwagon, Gerry Rafferty, Supertramp, Three Dog Night, Steve Winwood (solo). 

I submit all on this non- inductees list belong, at least, ahead of Frampton (and yes, I'm of the age and headspace that adored that Frampton Comes Alive effort). 

Clarence Boddicker

April 22nd, 2024 at 9:18 AM ^

The only band I'm passionate for of all those listed is the B-52s. But I have zero emotional investment in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, since it's: in Cleveland, for god only knows why; basically a Jann Wenner joint and fuck that guy. 

Romeo50

April 22nd, 2024 at 9:20 AM ^

Grand Funk Railroad, The Guess Who, Blood Sweat and Tears and Three Dog Night not in is nuts. Apparently the 60s and early 70s hit makers had no bearing on rock ‘n’ roll but Jay Z and Madonna did. 

AtmoGuy

April 22nd, 2024 at 10:28 AM ^

It will never happen, but I would love to see the Guess Who inducted because (a) they deserve it, and (b) Burton Cummings and Randy Bachman are involved in some nasty litigation against Jim Kale and Garry Peterson over who owns the rights to the band name.

Romeo50

April 22nd, 2024 at 12:52 PM ^

GFR 1972/3 three of their records stacked on top of each other on my record player next to my bed so they would each drop down, and I’d get to listen to those three sides and always played  I’m your captain and mean mistreater as I went to sleep. 
For three guys, they were all excellent at what they did including two good singers it’s just a shame the rancour.

goblu330

April 22nd, 2024 at 10:54 AM ^

I mean, since 1980, they are the second highest live act in terms of tickets sold in the world behind only U2, and the 13th highest grossing band during the same time frame.

People who do not like DMB tend to REALLY not like them and are very vocal about it.  But they are actually in the minority by quite a bit.   They have been an incredibly successful act for 3 decades.

GoBlue96

April 22nd, 2024 at 11:25 AM ^

One thing they did is allow fans to record concerts and share them online.  It really increased their popularity and seemed somewhat revolutionary.  I dated a DMB superfan a little over a decade ago and spent a year traveling around to various concerts.  I'm not a huge fan but it was a fun experience.  

GRBluefan

April 22nd, 2024 at 10:55 AM ^

Recognizing that music is a personal taste, and that you may not like DMB, but it is hard to argue the impact and success that they have had over their career.  Quick google research show 33m records sold in the US, 7 billboard no. 1 albums and a legacy as one of the top 20 grossing live acts ever.  They are 1st ballot HoFers without a doubt.  

rob f

April 22nd, 2024 at 1:08 PM ^

I've always found DMB to be bland and boring.  I tried to figure out why their fans  were so devoted to them.  Maybe it's their live performances (I've never gone to one of their concerts) but I just can't get very excited about most of their studio stuff, to me, too much elevator or grocery store background music.

Johnny Blood

April 22nd, 2024 at 9:35 AM ^

I guess it's different categories, but 2024 inductees also include Cher, Mary J. Blige, Ozzy Osbourne and A Tribe Called Quest. I'm surprised REO hasn't made it in. All of the bands / solo acts you list are also good - but what's the admissions criteria for this? Longevity? Number of hits? Albums sold? It just seems so random to me every year.

Bando Calrissian

April 22nd, 2024 at 9:36 AM ^

We're here on a Michigan message board and the OP just casually leaves off the MC5 as one of this year's inductees?

Long overdue, just wish it could have come before Brother Wayne and John Sinclair passed.

Wendyk5

April 22nd, 2024 at 9:40 AM ^

I would probably take out Harry Nilsson and Steve Winwood solo (just not big enough bodies of work), If Foreigner made it in so should Kansas. I'm also lukewarm on REO and Supertramp. They're essentially the same band from opposite sides of the pond. Three Dog Night, Blood, Sweat, & Tears, Grand Funk, and America are maybe's for me. I like them all but I don't know how big their catalogues are, especially Blood, Sweat, & Tears and Grand Funk. How many popular albums did they have? Yes to B 52's. They were groundbreaking. Gerry Rafferty no (just didn't break through enough). I abstaining on Marshall Tucker since I don't know enough about what they did in entirety. 

Peter Parker

April 22nd, 2024 at 10:00 AM ^

Claiming that REO Speedwagon and Supertramp are 'essentially the same band from opposite sides of the pond' is WILD to me. Supertramp is such an original sounding band, with a LOT of prog rock influence (see 'Crime of the Century'). And even their biggest album, 'Breakfast in America', for example. I love REO speedwagon but I don't think they were out here putting tuba and clarinet on smash hit songs.

Wendyk5

April 22nd, 2024 at 10:56 AM ^

I don't think the criteria to get into the HOF is only about a band's music (and I'm not saying I either agree or disagree with their criteria). It's more about what place they had in Rock n Roll history. So when I say the bands are the same, I don't mean musically. I think about their vibe and genre, who was their audience, when did they play, how popular were they, how did they distinguish themselves in the era they played. I think Three Dog Night and Blood, Sweat, and Tears are in the same boat.  Kansas and Foreigner are the same deal. They don't have the same sound at all but they occupied a similar place in R n R history. The B52's are different - I can't think of a comparable band. Maybe The Talking Heads? 

Peter Parker

April 22nd, 2024 at 11:42 AM ^

Who knows what the criteria are. Seems like when it comes down to it, it ends up being pretty arbitrary. Although we DO know that they have quite a bias against prog rock, hence why it took so long for genesis, yes, and rush to get in, and why supertramp, kansas, ELP, and Jethro Tull still aren't in (ridiculous).

Wendyk5

April 22nd, 2024 at 11:52 AM ^

We were comparing it to the Baseball HOF. There are people who were clearly in the top (Babe Ruth, Cy Young, Lou Gehrig, etc...) but then there are players like Ron Santo who really didn't differentiate themselves in the same way, and so the criteria there is murky. Bands like The Stones are obvious, but then bands like Kansas, Foreigner, and ELP were good but not in the same stratosphere as The Stones. It's so subjective. At least baseball players have stats you can point to. 

Wendyk5

April 22nd, 2024 at 8:41 PM ^

Ok, I'm taking back my comment about Supertramp and REO being the same band. I listened to Supertramp a lot back then (and went back and listened to Crime of the Century just now). I think my initial reaction was that these bands, along with Foreigner, Styx, Kansas, Boston, and then some smaller bands like Foghat, all got played together and crossed over each other all the time, at least where I lived. They were all kind of glommed together. Supertramp is more in line with ELP and Yes and has vestiges of Jethro Tull. They sound dated, though. They're of a very certain time and sound like it. I feel the same way about The Who, my favorite band in high school. I listen now and their music doesn't sound nearly as transformative as it was for me at the time.