November 3rd, 2023 at 8:12 PM ^
It is possible this is all a product of trolling and the “new news” is not even real.
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:14 PM ^
You can't just look at the articles, you have to read his posts on the forums on the Wolverine.
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:18 PM ^
More people should read your posts. Here are two samples:
How much longer are you going to keep this up?
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:31 PM ^
Keep what up lol. You want me to be a blind homer? Ya I'll say the same shit across different posts because we all need to get on the same page. Here, reddit, the subscription sits, everyone reads or hears shit and then rushes to wherever they frequent to talk about and then it becomes a big game of telephone and "where did you hear that?" I follow all the subscription sites, am here, and on reddit. Balas warned about Stalions being at the CMU game being leaked a week before the photos started going around. Also said there would be another piece coming out that isn't sign-related but adds onto the rock pile and looks bad character-wise. That ended up being the staffer story about the dude who was fired. I don't like how he'll just be doom and ominous one night then positive the next morning and repeat. All of those subscription sight people that have insider sources (Sam Webb, Balas, Isaiah Hole, Josh Henschke, Anthony Broome) share things that need to be corroborated. For instance, Henschke just said Stalions wasn't fired but RESIGNED this evening.
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:35 PM ^
I think the combination of your join date and posting history suggest that you're subtly trolling in an OSU direction.
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:39 PM ^
I joined to keep up with what Sopwith was posting because people were screenshotting his shit and sharing to twitter. I'm off twitter till this entire thing comes to a conclusion. I'm in a group chat on there with State people and it's insufferable. He knows stuff and I wanted to go down the rabbit hole. I've got two degrees from Michigan and live an hour from Ann Arbor, but yes I'm an OSU troll! Christ. Any sort of slight reality or pessimism on this site and you're called a troll. What if I started replying to people asking if they actually went to Michigan? Then I'd be the ass right, just like calling someone a troll.
November 3rd, 2023 at 9:56 PM ^
Please post degrees
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:35 PM ^
Yoder is that you???
November 3rd, 2023 at 10:47 PM ^
Had same thought!
November 3rd, 2023 at 9:54 PM ^
STOP FEEDING THE TROLL
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November 3rd, 2023 at 8:28 PM ^
it's in The Fort
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:13 PM ^
Several people have already asked this, and I don't see any answers. So I'll ask again:
Where are people seeing these comments from Balas? I don't see anything on his X (Twitter), and I don't see anything on thewolverine (ON3)
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:24 PM ^
In the On3 forums
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:28 PM ^
His posts to the message board.
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:13 PM ^
FWIW. Balas is still rocking this tweet. He has a mixed reputation
Sources: Jim Harbaugh plans to sign with the Minnesota Vikings #GoBlue https://t.co/jTh2W9AWL5
— Chris Balas (@Balas_Wolverine) February 1, 2022
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:20 PM ^
In fairness, Balas wasn't wrong. After the interview, Harbaugh went on the record with Mitch Albom and basically admitted that he wanted the job and that he got on the plane fully expecting to be the Vikings' next coach but that the job wasn't offered to him.
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:31 PM ^
I wish I could remember other stuff he’s put out there. In my head Balas is on the less reliable side but Ive forgotten why I landed there over the years
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:45 PM ^
Right, I was a member at the time which I am no longer mainly due to Balas being too negative. The issue I had with the Harbaugh to Minnesota deal was he told us that it was a done deal not it's a done deal if Harbaugh gets offered.
Maybe he didn't know the Minnesota side but then just say that.
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:32 PM ^
Harbaugh went to Minnesota fully intending to sign with the Vikings but bombed the interview. So Jim definitely planned to sign with the Vikings, the Vikings just didn’t share that same sentiment
November 3rd, 2023 at 9:11 PM ^
As a Michigan and Vikings fan, I don't think it's 100% known that he bombed it. At least not from what I have heard on both sides of that.
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:37 PM ^
I think he did plan on signing but they weren’t planning on signing him
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:13 PM ^
I’m hopeful that Ono wouldn’t have stuck his neck out for Harbaugh and refused to suspend him if he wasn’t 100% certain that there wasn’t other damning evidence to come out.
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:14 PM ^
Honest question: is anyone really expecting that the NCAA won't be able to find evidence that at least someone higher up knew about this? I think its unrealistic that Stalions acted alone, and even without digital evidence - Stalions might be more open to being interviewed now that he has been fired.
It doesn't forgive the method in which this evidence was procured, but Harbaugh is going to have to take some accountability for this, even if everyone on here hopes for the best.
He's a good coach and is great to his staff / players, but seems to be suffering from some judgement errors. This is why everyone rushing to bash Warde for not immediately defending Harbaugh need to step back and think about why he hasn't up to this point.
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:18 PM ^
Assuming guilt is not a good idea. Tarnishing someone's image without evidence is not a good idea. Even if it is from a UM insider. If Sam does something like that, I wouldn't listen to him. So you can stop this crap, unless you have evidence.
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:26 PM ^
Assuming 100% innocence is also a dangerous way of thinking, no?
Ok, lets say Stalions acted alone and nobody knew - you don't blame Harbaugh for employing someone who seems to have been legitimately crazy? What about Weiss? What about Shemy? What about the dude with the underage girl? This is what I mean when I say poor judgement.
Yet everyone on here wants to hang Warde because he also isnt rushing to judgement.
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:29 PM ^
You mean Warde has no hand in how his department is run? Forget Warde. It is on Ono right now and let us see where it goes.
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:55 PM ^
Weiss and the recent fired staffer with the girl appear to have had no indicators of this future behavior. Why try to paint this as a Zach Smith situation, where a streak of awful deeds are actively covered up?
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:58 PM ^
Assuming 100% innocence is also a dangerous way of thinking, no?
Without evidence? No, that's not dangerous.
If anything new comes out then I will reassess.
What is this "overwhelming evidence"? We don't know. It's obviously not anything that actually ties it to a coach because the commentary was "someone should have known."
November 3rd, 2023 at 11:12 PM ^
Lots of crazy people get hired because they're really good at what they do. I don't blame Harbaugh for not knowing this guy was "legitimately crazy" if he truly is (I don't know), because that's not Harbaugh's specialty. All I know about Matt Weiss is that he accessed unauthorized accounts and Michigan handled that internally until recently partnering with the FBI. Was there any of that kind of activity in his past? Did Alex Wood have a documented history of buying booze and hooking up with underage girls? He was fired by Michigan as soon as the news came out. And I'm not surprised that a Schembeckler wasn't fully scrutinized before joining the staff. Maybe we slow our roll a bit and get a better hiring process or add more layers of accountability once hired, but this doesn't seem like it's a Harbaugh judgment thing. It's terrible timing but they don't seem to be related, and I'm not sure that they're even systemic problems. It doesn't seem like M dragged their feet on anything once they were aware of the bad behaviors.
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:54 PM ^
"He's a good coach"
Really? He's a top 3 coach in college football, today which is exactly why this story is so massive.
Stop taking the press as evidence and allow the man his due process.
Is that too much to ask?
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:15 PM ^
What would be so extensive that Harbaugh et al would need to know Stalions was cheating -- short of Stalions coming out and saying "I was cheating?"
There's really only two things I can think of. The first would be Stalions turning in an expense voucher for football tickets.
The other would be Stalions beings so uncannily good at predicting opponent plays that it sets off alarm bells. But so far I have yet to see anyone identify any plays where Michigan just happened to check into the perfect play at the last second. Unless someone can come up with some examples -- and it would take a ton to overcome plain old good luck and good game planning -- I'm just not certain Michigan gained all that much from this, or that there was anything that should have tipped off Michigan's coaching staff.
Am I missing something here?
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:16 PM ^
The latter is especially bizarre, since for the last 2+ years, Michigan has not played at all like a team with a crystal ball, as others have repeatedly observed.
November 3rd, 2023 at 9:18 PM ^
Its funny bc the same redditors losing their minds over this loved the “drowning ferrets” running joke which is a joke specifically about how Michigan always starts slow and chokes people out as the game goes on. Youd think a team stealing signs would just crush everyone right?
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:20 PM ^
I don’t think this is real. I think we are being trolled.
November 3rd, 2023 at 9:53 PM ^
the Gerdemen/Orr crowd posted a play where OSU was in the red zone and on 2nd & 9 (?) Michigan left MH Jr. one-on-one and blitzed safeties into a run, after lip-reading Stalions saying "run right" and OSU ran right into the blitz. Or Michigan pointing to the sky when reading pass, etc.
In their minds, that would have been impossible without cheating.
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:16 PM ^
The bad news that's left to come out is that there's a criminal investigation into the PIs who helped orchestrate this nothing burger of a witch hunt.
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:16 PM ^
. . . I just can't look it's killing me, and taking control.
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:21 PM ^
Me too. Ruining my Friday night.
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:30 PM ^
he was quoting mr brightside lol
November 3rd, 2023 at 10:22 PM ^
LOL. My bad.
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:34 PM ^
JEALOUSY!!! TURNING SAINTS INTO THE SEA!!!
November 3rd, 2023 at 9:01 PM ^
Swimming through sick lullabies, choking on your alibis!
November 3rd, 2023 at 9:13 PM ^
BUT IT'S JUST THE PRICE I PAY!!!
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:20 PM ^
I wish Sam or JUB would say something. I believe them more than these other hacks.
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:21 PM ^
That’s the worrying part….if the biggest slappies are quiet, it’s a bad sign.
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:22 PM ^
Well, I am hoping they are not saying anything yet because they want to be sure, unlike Balas.
November 3rd, 2023 at 9:56 PM ^
No it means they’re doing what makes them good: getting reliable info from actual sources and vetting it rather than just posting things and running with the heat of the moment.