TreVeyon Henderson Returning to OSU
January 12th, 2024 at 5:22 PM ^
Except for the fact that those guys accomplished 2 of the 3 goals already.
January 12th, 2024 at 6:31 PM ^
They don't have a QB who's proven anything there. And Corum > Henderson.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:36 PM ^
Yes, this is impressive from them. Got to think they rate with Georgia in the pre-season polls and will have the depth for the elongated post season.
Chuck - would you have preferred McCord to a change at QB?
January 12th, 2024 at 6:11 PM ^
Depends on the change...McCord was green, but fine. Probably a top 10-15 QB in the nation. In 2024 he would probably have been top 5-10 and OSU would be better off keeping him.
Not sure Howard is an upgrade. Has better legs but I suspect McCord might be the better passer.
January 12th, 2024 at 9:16 PM ^
I completely agree with your assessment of Howard.
My view is.. OSU’s defense has to focus on getting second half stops against Michigan. A lot of the “blame” seems to be on McCord - and, I don’t think that’s fair. Stroud was a VERY good QB with a strong receiving corps.
The Buckeyes OL needs attention / raise their level of play a bit.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:44 PM ^
The biggest thing that Ohio State has going for them next year is that the Michigan game won't be all or nothing anymore. Under next year's format this year's team and the 2021 team would have definitely made the playoffs and probably have been favored against a number of the teams they would have played. This year's Ohio State team was probably better than Washington for instance.
So even if they were to lose to Michigan next year they'll still likely make the playoff and have a shot at the national title.
Similar issue that Michigan had with their 2016 and 2018 teams. Those Ohio State games were very all or nothing and losing them meant you didn't get a shot at the playoff. Going forward it's just not going to be the case anymore where you lose the Game and you're likely locked out of the playoff.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:48 PM ^
What’s crazy is there are scenarios now where 1 & 2 don’t happen but 3 does. That was highly unlikely before (granted last year, but generally)
January 12th, 2024 at 6:10 PM ^
The plot thickens for next year. OSU trying what worked for us. I don't see Day as transformational, but I do see him as able to win football games, especially if Knowles can keep your D strong.
January 12th, 2024 at 6:32 PM ^
Let me add one Chuck, without which none of the others matter. How about: get a real OL?
January 12th, 2024 at 7:34 PM ^
I'm all for it.
January 12th, 2024 at 6:38 PM ^
That is probably the best 1-2 RB room in the country.
The wide receivers and the cb's in the draft in the draft are stacked so you can understand Egbuka and Burke, but, although they were all over the place, many services had Henderson as the best available running back.
So this one is surprising.
January 12th, 2024 at 7:17 PM ^
Chuck, what percentage do you think it is that they are really hungry to achieve these goals and what percentage do you just think it NIL + improved draft stock?
January 12th, 2024 at 7:45 PM ^
Don't know.
What percentage of Michigan 2023 returnees do you think were hungry to achieve big things vs. how many came back to improve draft stock?
January 12th, 2024 at 5:00 PM ^
It's on, people.
They better beat us now. The pressure is all on them.
Lose to us yet another time, at home, and Day is toast.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:39 PM ^
I'm with you on this. I love it. If they lose this year.....hooooooo boy.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:02 PM ^
Those gold pants must be really big and solid gold.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:03 PM ^
Didn't he sit out of the bowl game?
January 12th, 2024 at 5:05 PM ^
Nope, 19 carries for 72 yards
January 12th, 2024 at 5:06 PM ^
No, he played.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:09 PM ^
He shat out of the bowl game, literally!!!
January 12th, 2024 at 5:11 PM ^
only in the sense that all of OSU's players sat out the bowl game
January 12th, 2024 at 5:18 PM ^
Or earlier entered the Transfer Portal or opted out of their bowl game
January 12th, 2024 at 5:44 PM ^
bUt tHE DeFenSe!
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January 12th, 2024 at 5:04 PM ^
OSU's NIL slushfund/warchest must be absolutely massive! 20 Million, perhaps?
Add in the money they spent to keep Smith and Houstan in their 2024 class, the portal guys they have added and the two elite 2025 commits they just got and the amount of money flowing out of the coffers of OSU must be staggering.
Of course, all of this is completely above board. Nothing to see here.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:45 PM ^
Did they buy cheeseburgers? Did an FSU coach drive a player to an event? No? All good move along.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:06 PM ^
Only one man can stop this team and it’s Ryan Day. I like our odds
January 12th, 2024 at 5:06 PM ^
Can't stress it enough: If Michigan wins next year, Ohio States program will burst into flames.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:07 PM ^
Exactly.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:35 PM ^
This is perfect.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:38 PM ^
They’re putting all their chips in the center of the table. We beat them one more time and it’s over for them. They will have a program altering crisis on their hands.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:07 PM ^
Jokes aside. I could tell something was different in their bowl game.
They're really trying to change the culture down there. In almost any other year, those guys opt out and go pro. They all played (except Harrison), even with a 3rd string QB.
And they played hard. It was noticeable even though the offense looked like dog shit.
This would be Michigan's toughest test versus OSU, but we have the opportunity to do BREAK them.
They're going all in, chips to the middle of the table, and they're probably going to roll everyone in their first 11 games.
Leave Columbus with a W and they are DONE.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:12 PM ^
This group doesn't look scarier to me than Stroud, Wilson, JSN, etc. I think Oregon will also have something to say about them winning the big ten.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:15 PM ^
I mean they'll be good and playing Columbus will always be a tough game, but they still aren't really that great on the offensive line and that's a huge weakness. I'm also not particularly sold on Will Howard and I think Day has to figure out exactly what he wants their identity to be on offense.
But they should be very good on defense.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:33 PM ^
I agree on the Will Howard comment. What exactly has he done to to be a "scary good" quarterback? The RB from Ole Miss had great stats, but did he play against any great defenses in the SEC? He was held under 100 rushing yards in 5 games; one was in a blowout where he didn't play the second half, but two of the other four came against non-SEC teams. This means the other two came from SEC teams (Alabama, Arkansas). He had 133 yards rushing against a horrible LSU defense, which was the highest he had in a game.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:45 PM ^
Depends on what you consider great defenses but Ol' Miss played Georgia and Alabama this past year. I think Georgia and Bama were both in the SP+ top ten for defense.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:46 PM ^
Bama held him under 75 yards rushing.
Georgia held him to exactly 75 yards rushing.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:34 PM ^
Our IOL and QB are the question marks - even if Harbaugh leaves, we should have a good year of transition a la Ryan Day in 2019. But our D looks stout, our tackles, TEs are returning, our younger RBs look good and your WRs have gotten some experience. Not saying we can run it back to 15-0 - that's crazy. But I think we can be pretty good.
Bring it, Ohio.
January 12th, 2024 at 9:41 PM ^
A Day late but definitely not a dollar short.
January 12th, 2024 at 10:39 PM ^
I just want to acknowledge your comment so you know it did not go unnoticed.
Also that your join date was 12/12/12. Fascinating.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:23 PM ^
That game in Eugene will be a big one for sure.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:46 PM ^
They looked like Iowa but with a shit punting game.
January 13th, 2024 at 1:46 PM ^
Which, isn't the diss you or others may think it is...Iowa plays hard. Iowa has a culture.
Iowa and OSU are pretty much polar opposites. If OSU gets a little Iowa...they're going to be a PROBLEM.
That's where Michigan's strength has been. We are pretty much the middle between OSU and Iowa.
The more Iowa that OSU gets, the more dangerous they become.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:07 PM ^
All of their chips are in. Would be a massive failure for them not to win a national championship.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:18 PM ^
Yep. They’re going to be the preseason favorites to win it all next year. They’re going to be loaded. Now they need to prep to win all those games.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:30 PM ^
Eh, I wouldn’t vote a team with a transfer QB #1 until I saw them play. I’m also not sold on their OL.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:07 PM ^
Just saw that JTT is returning too. They'll be loaded...again. Hopefully, w the same result.
Seems they've loaded their money cannon big time.
Its National championships or bust for them. Anything less and they'll implode.
January 12th, 2024 at 5:47 PM ^
Damn and no one has seen Jonathan Taylor Thomas in years either!
January 12th, 2024 at 5:08 PM ^
Good!!!
January 12th, 2024 at 5:08 PM ^
We'll beat them again either with or without Henderson.
And Ryan Day will again do the walk of shame.