The NCAA's rules & bylaws are on Michigan's side

Submitted by smotheringD on October 26th, 2023 at 5:51 AM

Copied from Erik_in_Dayton's diary above because when I tried to access this critical information on my phone I couldn't find the Diary Section but navigating the Message Board was easy.  Someone please make sure Erik's excellent interpretation of the NCAA's bylaws is known by the UM athletic department / compliance office today before their meeting.  Well done Erik!

 

  1. Introduction/High-Level Takeaways

The NCAA might not be on Michigan’s side when it comes to the current allegations about sign stealing, but its rules and bylaws are.  This diary is about to get long, so here are the high-level takeaways:

  • There is no rule against sign stealing as such.
  • The rule that forbids recording an opponent’s signals only applies to a team when it’s on a field for a game.
  • A football program can hire third parties to scout future opponents in person.
  • Seth and the poster who goes by Ghost of Fritz Crisler found the most important points below.

Okay, let’s go through Michigan’s supposed rules violations.

  1. The Rule that Categorically Prohibits Sign Stealing

There is no such rule.  You can steal signs in at least some circumstances. 

  1. Rule 1-11-h of the NCAA Football 2023 Rules Book

It says this:

Any attempt to record, either through audio or video means, any signals given by an opposing player, coach or other team personnel is prohibited.

That seems cut and dried, but it cannot be read alone.  As a preliminary matter, it’s worth noting that Rule 1-11-h is part of Rule 1, which is titled The Game, Field, Players, and Equipment.  Next, per Rule 1-6-b, the Rules Book—the entire thing—applies to the following:

Everyone in the team area, players, substitutes, replaced players, coaches, athletics trainers, cheerleaders, band members, mascots [!], public-address announcers, audio/video/lighting system operators, and other persons affiliated with the teams or institutions.

In case there is any confusion about what the above means by “the teams,” Rule 1-1-1-a tells us that “(t)he game shall be played between two teams of not more than 11 players each…”  So, we’re talking about the two teams that are playing a given game, not all D-1 football teams everywhere. And, for the rules to apply to a person, that person must be affiliated with the teams playing the game and in the “team area.”

What is the “team area”? Rule 1-2-4-a defines it as being “(o)n each side of the field” in the back of a “limit line” (I won’t subject you to that definition) and between the 20-yard lines.  The major point is that it is to the sides of a football field where the two teams play.  Thus, to be subject to Rule 1-11-h, you have to be on the side of a field.  People who are watching games from the stands are not that. 

  1. 2022-2023 NCAA Division 1 Manual Bylaw 11.6.1

Okay, let’s move onto the big one.  Bylaw 11.6.1 says this:

Off-campus, in-person scouting of future opponents (in the same season) is prohibited, except as provided in Bylaws 11.6.1.1 and 11.6.1.2 [these two exceptions aren’t relevant].

We don’t have the nice, clean explanation of whom the Bylaws apply to that we had in the Football Rules Book.  But Article 11 of the Bylaws, of which 11.6.1 is a part, is titled Conduct and Employment of Athletics Personnel.  More, in Bylaw 11.1.1, we’re told that “Institutional staff members found in violation of NCAA regulations shall be subject to disciplinary or corrective action…”  Also, we have common sense to tell us that the NCAA cannot mean 11.6.1 to apply to all humans everywhere.  If nothing else, the average fan does not have “future opponents.”  It seems safe to say, then, that the rule applies on its face to employees of athletic departments (or schools, if you like).  If you think there is ambiguity there, however, we go to our next point.

And here is where we encounter what Ghost of Fritz found and the biggest point of confusion: typically, we’d be correct to think that you cannot absolve yourself of punishment for a prohibited act by paying someone else to do it.  Agency liability and criminal conspiracy charges come to mind.  But that logic just doesn’t seem to apply here. 

Prior to August 2013, Bylaw 11.6.1 prohibited schools from off-campus, in-person scouting of opponents for football, basketball, and women’s volleyball—but not for other sports.  This was balanced out to some extent thanks to then-Bylaw 11.6.2, which said that football, basketball, and women’s volleyball enjoyed a carve-out from the following prohibition:

…a member institution shall not pay or permit the payment of expenses incurred by its athletics department staff members or representatives (including professional scouting services) to scout its opponents or individuals who represent its opponents…

In other words, you couldn’t scout an opponent in person for your football, basketball, and women’s volleyball teams, but you could pay “representatives” to scout opponents for those sports. 

Then, in August 2013, the NCAA changed the rule and prohibited off-campus, in-person scouting of future opponents (in the same season) for all sports but balanced that by completely discarding the prohibition against paying for scouting.  In doing so, it published the following rationale:

In the interest of simplicity and consistency, it is appropriate for one rule regarding scouting to apply to all sports. In most cases, video of future opponents is readily available either through institutional exchange, subscription to a recording/dubbing service or internet sites accessible to the general public.

There is only one reasonable interpretation of what happened in August 2013 when the rule was changed: schools could pay for scouting services for football before the rule changed and can still do so now (the rule hasn’t been amended since).  It would make absolutely no sense to repeal the rule that banned payment for scouting for most non-football sports as a way of banning payment for scouting for football.  The explicit rationale for the rule change also wouldn’t make sense.  Accordingly, schools can pay third parties to scout opponents. 

Let me say this in a different way: there is only ambiguity in 11.6.1 if you’re not convinced by its text that it only applies to school employees.  And the legislative history of the rule makes clear that you should be convinced of that.  As seen in 11.6.1 prior to August 2013, the NCAA knew what to say to ban third-party scouting.  And, rather than applying that to football, the NCAA did away with that ban for all sports. 

  1. The Rule Against Hiring Third Parties to Scout & Record Opponents in Person to Steal Signs

You can steal signs.  You can hire third parties to scout opponents in person.  You can record opponents’ signals if you’re not on a football field playing against them.  There is no rule suggesting that combining these things makes them a collective rules violation.

Ghost of Fritz…

October 26th, 2023 at 10:27 AM ^

Irrelevant.  Scouting and recoding are different things under the NCAA rules.  NCAA current rules prohibit in-person scouting.  But current NCAA rules do NOT prohibit paying a 3rd party to record future opponent games.   

So...Michigan can't send their own staff to in-person scout a future opponent.  And (probably) Michigan cannot pay a 3rd party to in-person scout a future opponent.

But Michigan CAN pay a third party for a recording the 3rd party made of a future opponent's game.

Again, scouting and recording are not the same things.  Stalions arranged only the latter.

The Homie J

October 26th, 2023 at 11:24 AM ^

You know what would help?  If Stalions had told the UM compliance department to sign off on this first to make sure the NCAA won't see it differently.  I'm assuming he didn't but this whole saga would be nipped in the bud if Stalions/Staff have said "Hey found a loophole, just for safety, gonna run it up the compliance flagpole and make sure we're not gonna get reamed later."  I know Harbaugh did this with the rule regarding players pretending to sub off the field.  He got penalized for it anyway, but at least he was asking the refs before each game if it would be allowed.  Really hoping something like happened here, as it makes it clear you're not trying to purposely fleece the rulebook.

If you play in the grey areas, you gotta CYA 

Kingpin74

October 26th, 2023 at 11:54 AM ^

"And (probably) Michigan cannot pay a 3rd party to in-person scout a future opponent."

I'm with you on 99% of what you've wrote, but I'm not even sure this is true. 11.6.1 doesn't clarify anything about third parties beyond stopping the exceptions at "institutional staff members" after previously considering the possibly of stopping them at coaches. I think it's a fair interpretation that the main rule stops there too, and couldn't realistically cover any more ground without further explanation. So even if "recording" and "scouting" get conflated, I still think you have a reasonable argument that the rule wasn't violated if staff members weren't there in person. If scouting interns were some of the people there in person, that complicates things of course. But that may have been for a playoff game where the exception already applied. And it's not even clear if anyone was actually paid beyond getting free tickets. You could argue that's just an expense like a blank tape or DVD was under the previous version of the paid recording rule.

Cmknepfl

October 26th, 2023 at 11:50 AM ^

First of all this is really informative and it makes sense that this distinction is significant, so thank you.  However there is one piece that doesn't fit to me.  As you put it they have the statement in the explanatory notes about video being readily available.  However that is an explanation for them removing the statement that says scouting and only scouting.  So wouldn't that mean they are using them interchangeably?

 

or was there a larger scope to the changes?

It'sGreatToBe

October 26th, 2023 at 9:22 AM ^

I.) Primary source materials for reference re: Football Rule 1 §4.11.h:

NCAA Football 2023 Rules Book

Rule 1 §4.11.h: see PDF p. 29

Rule 1 §1.6.b: see PDF p. 18

See also the introductory paragraph to The Rules further identifying the scope of application and Rule 1 §4.11.h as a "conduct rule," which is defined as a rule "that ha[s] to do directly with the playing of the contest." on PDF p. 16

II.) Primary source materials for reference re: Bylaw Rule 1.6.1:

Original2012-2013 NCAA Division 1 Bylaws (see PDF p. 63)

Updated2013-2014 NCAA Division 1 Bylaws (see PDF p. 63)

Amendment History & Rationale: Division I Proposal - RWG-11-3-B

Qmatic

October 26th, 2023 at 6:11 AM ^

Does the NCAA even know their own rule book?

My guess is that they are going to focus on some of the ambiguity in the language. I think they want to catch Michigan for “non-compliance” to requests because that is completely subjective and the NCAA can control what they do there. I do not believe they are actually trying to penalize Michigan for this sign-stealing stuff, because even they have to know that is weak tea.

The Harbaughnger

October 26th, 2023 at 7:31 AM ^

Seems like the ambiguity wouldn’t work in their favor, but against them. I mean, the stink people would raise across college football re: other rules that aren’t ambiguous, and then if the NCAA tried to use ambiguity in an isolated case? JH would have a field day with that- poke them right in the eye.

Hail-Storm

October 26th, 2023 at 9:55 AM ^

I, Like Jim, enjoy watching Judge Judy.  From what I understand, the person who writes the contract has more responsibility than the person who signs the contract.  So any ambiguity / gray area in the rules is on the NCAA, not on Michigan.  

My only issue is, the judge somehow is the NCAA.  This is where the Michigan lawyers needs to really come at the NCAA.  Pull out all the stops that defamation against the school, against the program, against the players and coaches should all be on the table to crush the NCAA in real court, who have shown to not do well when put into the real world courts.  

They need to push for a full statement from the NCAA that there is no rules violation.  

mi93

October 26th, 2023 at 9:33 AM ^

Totally agree. The NCAAs historical approach is not one draped in balanced, thoughtful dialogue and discovery but it’ll be interesting to see if this one is given one of “their own” is the source of leaks on proceedings and the “letter and intent” of the rules we’re seeing here — which seems plausible in its interpretation. 

For me, this is another point against letting BPONE set in. 

Ryno2317

October 26th, 2023 at 11:47 AM ^

BYLAW, ARTICLE 10 (Ethical Conduct)

"10.01 General Principle

10.01.1 Honesty and Sportsmanship

Individuals employed by (or associated witha member institution to administer, conduct or coach intercollegiate athletics and all participating student-athletes shall act with honesty and sportsmanship at all times so that intercollegiate athletics as a whole, their institutions and they, as individuals, shall represent the honor and dignity of fair play and the generally recognized high standards associated with wholesome competitive sports. 

10.10 Unethical Conduct 

Unethical conduct by a prospective or enrolled student-athlete or a current or former institutional staff member, which includes any individual who performs work for the institution or the athletics department even if he or she does not receive compensation for such work, may include, but is not limited to the following:"

While Michigan nor anyone associated with it is even accused of violated any of the conduct specified in 10.1(a)-(h), the rule is clear that unethical conduct "includes, but is not limited to" the items listed.  

These are the two sections of the bylaws that the NCAA can claim that Michigan violated if they want to regardless of the all the arguments regarding scouting, sign stealing, etc.

In fact, go read any decision by the infractions committee, these rules are cited all the time as sort of a catch-all provision to justify actions that don't sit well with the committee.  

Finally, Section 10.1(a), states that "unethical conduct" includes "refusal to furnish information relevant to an investigation of a possible violation of an NCAA regulation when requested to do so by the NCAA or the individual institution."  

That's why Michigan is correct to be turning over whatever is being asked for and is cooperating with the investigation.  We can't just tell the NCAA to "fuck off" and ignore them unless we plan on just pulling out of the NCAA.  

Ghost of Fritz…

October 26th, 2023 at 12:31 PM ^

I don't think a Rule 10.1 'you were unethical' argument can work for the NCAA.

How can it be deemed 'unethical' under R. 10.1 if the NCAA literally abolished the prohibition on paying 3rd parties for recordings of opponents' games?  

How can they revoke the ban on paying for 3rd party film of opponents' games...but retain that very ban via the back door of an 'unethical' charge under Rule 10.1? 

OSU plays games.   Michigan pays for 3rd part recordings of those games.  While that may have been prohibited pre-2013, in 2013 the NCAA got rid of that prohibition.  How can doing a thing that the rules allow give rise to some sort of vague 'R. 10 you are unethical' charge? 

Ryno2317

October 26th, 2023 at 4:06 PM ^

I think the argument would be neither Michigan or those associated with Michigan should be performing in-person scouting.  You have to read the bylaws and the rule book together and I think the NCAA can get there if they want to.

My proposed solution:  the NCAA issues a clarification to the rules and includes a more specific definition of whom the rule applies to.  Michigan issues a statement apologizingp for hiring someone who sought to exploit a grey area.  In addition, Michigan agrees to some form of sanction that reflects the minor nature of these charges.

blueheron

October 26th, 2023 at 6:29 AM ^

OSU and JS have axes to grind. So, too, do all the other schools with less $ that have completely bought into the media hype [1] about Michigan being arrogant and sanctimonious.

[1] It's not entirely undeserved but has, IMO, been blown out of proportion. Several people on MGoBlog have been snowed.

blueheron

October 26th, 2023 at 8:28 AM ^

Sure, but so can the Big Ten schools. Also, Michigan's directionals go far and wide for their players. They're not restricting their scope to places within an easy car ride. They couldn't realistically stock the pond. (Ohio's MAC schools would have an easier time, probably.) Look at EMU's roster:

https://emueagles.com/sports/football/roster

EDIT: I see that I shifted the topic. I agree that the MAC car rides and ticket prices would be less expensive.

jmblue

October 26th, 2023 at 6:30 AM ^

The NCAA should also be mindful of its own rules committee's discussion two years ago, finding that the competitive advantage gained from violating this rule is "minimal."

Hail-Storm

October 26th, 2023 at 10:59 AM ^

Sounds like Michigan had an overzelous staff member play in the gray areas of a rules (not technically breaking them) that the NCAA committee believes provides minimal advantages to. 

God I hope Michigan threatens and pursues scorched earth on the NCAA and Jim S (rules committee guy) if this isn't settled quickly and with full breath of this is nothing.  I hate that Michigan gets in trouble for the stupidest stuff.  The whole strength and conditioning staffer being present during stretches counting towards countable minutes turned into a full blown Michigan Massive cheating scandal.  The cheeseburger scandal, and now this.  It's annoying and I want my University to finally stand up to all this BS and go after the individuals who are causing these stupid issues.  

BlueTimesTwo

October 26th, 2023 at 12:34 PM ^

Just keep laying waste to the competition on the field, and let it be known that if any action is taken against Michigan without due process will result in a lawsuit seeking damages of $1B+.  Our brand is huge, and it is being methodically and intentionally attacked and debased.  I hope that we are also doing some very deep digging into this whole process.

Ask Sparty if we really need to steal signs to stomp them.  Or ask Day, since he changed the signs before getting crushed by Michigan.  The alleged conduct, even if true, may not even be prohibited and is not changing the outcome of any games.  Teams that can no longer compete with Michigan on the field (which now includes OSU) are trying to make noise off of the field.

Also, obviously TruStage is behind it all*.  They are not content to just hack MGoBlog, and have moved on to the university at large.

*Obviously a joke.  But they do need to be stopped.  They are ruining the experience on this site, and apparently are not even paying MGoBlog to do so.

grumbler

October 26th, 2023 at 10:30 AM ^

We don't know that they voted the change down, we just know that they didn't adopt it.  It is entirely possible that the proposed change never even made it onto the agenda, let alone getting a vote.  

The lack of adoption could easily be based on the fact that the change was considered too trivial to deserve debate and voting, given that the time allowed for debate and voting was limited.

We just don't know and therefor can draw no conclusions from the lack of adoption.

umich1

October 26th, 2023 at 6:31 AM ^

It’s hard to differentiate facts from leaked speculation, but I thought some of the personnel recording sidelines of future opponents were Michigan Student Interns for the football team.

MacGyver

October 26th, 2023 at 7:45 AM ^

There was one alleged incident of this in Wyld Stallyns’ Venmo history; payment to a student intern with “GA” in the notes at the time of the other CFP semi-final, Georgia v OSU, last year. In person scouting of the CFP games is allowed by the NCAA. Perhaps another indication that Connor didn’t cover his tracks because he knew it was permitted in this particular instance.

UMForLife

October 26th, 2023 at 6:33 AM ^

First off, Thanks to Erik and you for pointing out excellent diary by Erik. And proud of the Michigan difference. 

That language by NCAA is so confusing. How do they expect anyone to make sense of it. Anyway, in addition to athletic department, it probably needs to be pointed out to Mars or whoever is Harbaugh's lawyer. I will not be surprised if they already knew this.

If NCAA ignores the confusion their own law creates and goes with the "spirit of the law" argument, UM or Harbaugh or both should sue them. And they should find out who leaked it so they can plug the leak .

Hope it is put to bed today or soon