JUB: The Harbaugh contract isn't even finished yet
January 14th, 2024 at 7:38 PM ^
Still hoping!!
January 14th, 2024 at 7:22 PM ^
By contract, I’m assuming the entire legally binding documents, not just deal points. But, to not have presented him with an executable agreement, immediately is just flat bad on the administrative staff. Some one within the administration needs to learn how to close a fucking deal, and not assume verbal communication is sufficient.
I still believe it’s JH call on coaching here or the NFL, but that assumes the administration is doing everything they can to make him stay, not failing to prepare a legal document
January 14th, 2024 at 7:45 PM ^
Get serious. Do you really believe the holdup here is some administrative thing? Does anyone actually believe that? Come on.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:23 PM ^
Can we please stop with the fire warde nonsense. Nobody knows anything. IF Harbaugh leaves (something he's earned) Michigan has depth and experience returning in the roster and has a great HC option in Moore or even Minter. Team 145 and beyond will be JUST FINE.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:27 PM ^
If Jim leaves Minter is going with him no doubt whatsoever
January 14th, 2024 at 11:57 PM ^
Or he'll go to the Ravens or follow MacDonald to the NFL. No guarantee that he'll follow Jim.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:23 PM ^
I’ve mentally moved on to Sherrone and wish Jim luck on future endeavors since the Rose Bowl. If he stays, awesome, what a surprise! But I think the Harbaugh era might be over, and I’m excited to see what Sherrone could become.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:24 PM ^
I dunno about y'all, but I've read JUB's books and thought very highly of him.
Ever since his 'insider info' regarding Connor "the green onion" Scallion and the Great Signgate Debacle, my opinion of him has dropped significantly.
His knowledge of what's going on seems no better than any other random twitterer.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:26 PM ^
It's not happening.
It does not take "months" to figure out the appropriate for cause language or terms.
Jim ain't signing because he doesn't need to sign until he knows what his NFL options are.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:46 PM ^
Credit to the tsar for finally bringing clarity to this situation.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:26 PM ^
On and on and on and on
January 14th, 2024 at 7:33 PM ^
“Finished” means signed to most people. I negotiate contracts for a living. Finished means signed to me.
If Michigan has not sent a draft to Harbaugh, we should be upset. JUB previously said Michigan sent a draft to Harbaugh.
This seems like rage bait from JUB.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:41 PM ^
This exactly.
January 14th, 2024 at 8:11 PM ^
Exactly...
"The contract is finished" means either
-- both parties have agreed and signing is done or imminent
Or
-- here's the terms, take it or leave it.
We know the 1st hasn't happened and the 2nd is pretty unlikely
January 14th, 2024 at 7:34 PM ^
What is Jim Hackett doing right now? We need him back for a few weeks.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:36 PM ^
I have very good reason to suspect that John U Bacon knows more than any of us, and just as good reason to suspect that he (also) doesn't know shit.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:36 PM ^
I like JUB, but quite frankly, he has no more credibility on this stuff than some anonymous YouTube, X, or other social media platform. Bottom line...nobody knows nothing. He should just stick with that.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:39 PM ^
Between Harbaugh and Warde by the time Harbaugh decides to leave for the NFL there will be no good coaches left. Even MSU will have a more experienced coach than we will... Maybe the delay is by design to force the program into an internal hire.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:40 PM ^
Sherrone Moore would like word with you.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:48 PM ^
We don’t know if he is a good head coach or not.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:49 PM ^
This fanbase has spent years calling Ryan Day third base only to turn around and give the keys to the ferrari to someone with 0 head coaching experience and call it good. Hell, the offensive playcalling Q2 and Q3 almost cost us the NCG.
January 14th, 2024 at 11:38 PM ^
The average fan is a moron. Ryan Day has been to the playoffs three times. A field goal away from a national championship last year and a scoop and score overturned a few years prior. He is a top five coach. I hate to disappoint you. The odds of Michigan getting someone as good as Day are not great.
January 15th, 2024 at 8:29 AM ^
I understand the emotional attachment to Sherrone and I respect him for keeping the team together and focused during that stretch. But the dude turtles harder than Lloyd ever did with a lead. His scripted drives can be fantastic but his 2-3 quarter playcalling with a lead is infuriating at times. Defense bailed him out in every single big game down the stretch. PSU, MARYLAND (ffs), OSU, Bama, Wash. He might be a better program/glue guy than OC but I am not even in love with him as OC, much less HC.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:40 PM ^
Harbaugh is “set to meet with Chargers”. I suspect that is the source of delay.
Sherrone Moore will more than likely be the next head coach as Harbaugh goes out to LA to pursue the Lombardi one last time.
Harbaugh came and re-established Michigan as a NCAA superpower. He can go with our gratitude. I just hope he leaves Sherrone enough pieces to keep the car running smoothly. Young coach needs all the help they can get while they grow into the position.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:51 PM ^
No other program has ever had to deal with this shit right after winning a national championship. It's unbelievable.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:57 PM ^
Yeah I will say it’s incredibly frustrating that we haven’t been able to capitalize on a single year of success for the past three years due to off-season NFL flirtations every freakin year.
January 14th, 2024 at 8:02 PM ^
It looks like every single successful program in this country gets more loyalty out of their coaches than we do.
OSU wins it all, they get ready to reload. Same for Bama, Georgia, Clemson, ect.
We win it all and everyone says "he's proven everything he can at the college level"
Really? Why do we have to put up with this shit but other fanbases don't? Where are the Kirby Smart rumors? Where were the Urban Meyer rumors? Why do we have to expect less than every other successful football program in this country?
January 14th, 2024 at 10:12 PM ^
Because their coaches are not indeed flirting with the NFL every year. People know that.
January 15th, 2024 at 7:27 AM ^
Which of those successful programs cut their head coaches salary significantly?
January 15th, 2024 at 1:50 PM ^
Harbaugh has made more in each of the last three years than any of the previous seven. Some salary cut!
January 14th, 2024 at 7:52 PM ^
It's looking like this isn't it.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:41 PM ^
They have been at this for 6 freaking months.
The Louisiana Purchase didn't take this long.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:42 PM ^
I am probably the biggest JUB hater on this board and I think this tweet illustrates why he receives my vitriol.
At his core, JUB is an unsophisticated person commenting on things requiring sophistication. There is a reason why his academic pursuits have not expanded past one zip code, nor have his literary works.
At his core, he fishes for clicks just as much as all of the ESPN talking heads we routinely guillotine on this board.
Contracts of this nature are only "finished" when they are signed. Period. Not a moment before. Anyone with any experience dealing with these sorts of sensitive matters knows this. They require finesse.
Michigan fandom is wise enough to know that the hangup is not Warde Manuel's failure to send a redline or tweaking a provision. Get serious. We are at the mercy of JH and we should be! He deserves to take his time making a decision. Anyone spreading anything other than that is not thinking clearly.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:44 PM ^
100% -- this is just clickbaiting and trying to manipulate Michigan fans into factions. This is a meaningless statement. I doubt Jim Harbaugh is standing there with a pen, but will go to the NFL because Warde didn't get the legal department printers working in time.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:42 PM ^
This doesn't make sense to me. This is how a negotiation works, right? Of course it's not finished or he would have signed it
January 14th, 2024 at 7:45 PM ^
It isn't finished until it is signed, so this is not news.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:46 PM ^
Long holiday weekend
/s
January 14th, 2024 at 7:58 PM ^
According to Sports Illustrated, the clause holding up the contract extension is whether or not Harbaugh can be fired for cause based on the current NCAA investigations.
January 14th, 2024 at 7:59 PM ^
If true, this is extremely disappointing. UM needs to offer him the Bill Self contract. To wit: Harbaugh can't be fired "for cause" for anything arising from these "scandals." Full stop.
January 14th, 2024 at 8:00 PM ^
Give Warde a break. It takes a long time to hunt and peck a modern coaching contract.
January 14th, 2024 at 8:01 PM ^
Hard to take anything JUB is putting out on this issue seriously. If Harbaugh and the University are still negotiating the terms of the contract, then obviously it's not finished??? It's becoming obvious that JUB is operating as some sort of Harbaugh mouth-piece in this episode and I don't see how he retains any credibility here. Just a month or so ago we were hearing that Michigan had presented him with a new contract that would make him like the highest or second highest paid coach in CFB.
I'm no fan of Warde and I honestly think that Michigan should move on from him and find a serious upgrade in the AD's office, but pinning this all on him seems unfair. Every contract negotiation has two sides. What if it's Harbaugh that's being unreasonable in all this? Seems that could well be the case IMO. Also, if Harbaugh is serious about testing out his NFL options, then wouldn't he be the one holding up the negotiations? Just seems like this is all dogpiling for dogpile's sake and JUB is happy to point the finger at UM and Warde.
January 14th, 2024 at 8:02 PM ^
Who knows, but I remember reading that Jim wants a guarantee that he won't get fired for cause on the info out there right now, not some indemnification against things he might be accused of in the future.
That's completely reasonable, imo.
January 14th, 2024 at 8:12 PM ^
Indeed.
January 14th, 2024 at 11:23 PM ^
I mean, it’s really not, because it’s entirely dependent on what the NCAA, who is not a party to the contract, decides to do.
If the NCAA decides to drop a show cause for a year on Harbaugh, Michigan would be insane to precommit to having to have an interim coach for a year while still paying Harbaugh.
January 15th, 2024 at 1:49 AM ^
So we basically had a trial run at this during this year, and that seemed to work out ok…
January 14th, 2024 at 8:02 PM ^
Culture hopefully built that will stay but we are losing a lot....not to mention it's hard to find a good QB and we don't even have an idea of who will start next year. Our schedule is brutal. He is as hot a name as he will ever be again. He was almost ran out of town and now is cemented twice as a michigan legend. Honestly, he should go. There are a lot of good NFL openings. He should really go if given a good opportunity. Also gives him more time to work on his family life.
January 14th, 2024 at 8:06 PM ^
Didn't he say before that it was done and the ball was in Jim's court about a month or so ago? It just proves nobody knows anything.
January 14th, 2024 at 8:13 PM ^
JUB knows a little about law. A long time ago JUB was down to a choice between law school, or being a writer. In fact, he scored as high as you can score on the LSAT. But he had a hard time seeing himself as a lawyer, and decided to become a writer. This is first-hand knowledge, no linky.
January 14th, 2024 at 8:47 PM ^
Yeah. But Jim Carty actually went to law school. So, that doesn't cut any slack with me. And, I've dealt with practicing lawyers for closing on 50 years.