He wasn’t going to play here, so this is probably the best thing for everyone. He can go start at a MAC school and he’s not wasting a scholarship here. Good luck to him.
Baker’s “fair and square” comment was in defense of notifying schools of an ongoing investigation, not in defense of our championship. Yes he said we won fair and square, but at the same time, he also said the evidence of cheating was very compelling. I don’t think the ncaa will vacate any wins, but after issuing show cause penalties and probation over the cheeseburgers, who knows what they’ll do over sign-gate.
I was thinking the same thing. We win a championship right when recruiting becomes all about NIL. Of course, it may have been that way for a while now, but it’s only recently become legal.
If his job wasn’t working with young men and being a role model for them, I would say that the court’s punishment is sufficient, but there’s no way this can go unpunished. I hate to say it, but I think he needs to be let go.
To be fair, in the same interview he said they (ncaa) received evidence there was an elaborate sign stealing scheme and the evidence was very compelling. It’s not like he said the investigation is over, we won fair and square. There will be a punishment for it, but I think they will just affirm the suspension that was already served. I don’t see some massive loss of scholarships or anything like that, but we haven’t heard the last of sign-gate.
I’m guessing he’s leaving for immediate playing time. Between Edwards, Mullings, and our QB, there’s not a lot of carries available. If he wants to sit and learn from a couple of the best and then takeover in ‘25, then yeah, I would welcome him with open arms. Maybe he’ll fill the void Judkins left at Ole Miss.
I heard/read that Davis’ dad or someone called out EJ Holland for a prediction or something. I think he was just trying to let his son have his moment whenever he announced his commitment. Holland took it personally and has ripped on Davis ever since. Davis put up the same numbers his junior and senior years, yet Holland switched from praise to criticism. I might have some of that wrong, but I’m guessing it’s the same guy. Davis dropped a lot in the rankings, but most of it was during the off season. I’ll take a QB that gets it done on the field, versus the guy who gets all of his accolades in shorts and struggles in real games.
Allegedly Devin Brown is currently QB1 at OSU and I’m sure Will Howard doesn’t want to spend his final year as OSU’s second string Quarterback. I get the argument that if he can’t start at OSU, why would we want him, but he’s a much better fit here than at OSU. He’s a very good runner and OSU doesn’t really use rpo’s anymore. He’s just an average thrower but if you add in his threat to run, he’s a weapon at QB.
OSU will probably string him along, and keep him around knowing Brown is injury prone, but Howard should jump in the portal again and he’s an instant upgrade over any QB in our room for our style of run-first offense.
I’m all for playing a weak OOC schedule. It might be chicken shit, but we already play an additional conference game compared to the sec and it allows us to get significant playing time to the younger guys which was key in developing our depth the last couple of years.
As a Commanders fan, this is exciting and I’m hoping they don’t screw it up. Last year they basically didn’t have a first round pick because the guy they took in the first, may have been available in the second. The guy they took in the second would’ve probably been available in the third, and so on.
“His junior year, the ACL injury really hampered him,” Clemson receivers coach Tyler Grisham said recently. “He had a brace on all year. Whether he knew it or not, he just wasn’t 100 percent, and you could tell by his play. He was favoring it at times. If you’re playing in the slot, you have to have elite change of direction, explosion, suddenness in and out of your breaks, and he wasn’t able to perform at the level that he could because of that injury. He came back so fast and he was legitimately healthy enough to return to play. He had an 80-something-yard reception [against Syracuse] that he took the house and stiff-armed a dude and outran the rest of the defense. But, you look at the totality of his play and it wasn’t to his standard”
I’m not trying to be negative, just realistic. Even if he is that rare case that comes back quickly, the odds of him playing at an elite level this season aren’t very good. I hope he proves me (and everyone else who assumes he’s done for the year) wrong.
You really have to feel bad for the guy. He could’ve went pro, but decides to come back to be a leader with a whole new defensive staff and doesn’t even make it through spring practice. I guess if you’re a silver lining kind of person, right now is probably the best time to tear a ligament, if there is such a thing. He’ll miss the season, but should be back to 100% for a pro day or maybe spring ball if he decides to return again.
We should have a few open scholarships now and can go after a few players in the portal. I think it reopens April 15th and closes April 30th. So we should have a couple of weeks with some action here soon.
Per twitter he has announced that he will be entering the portal.
I’m with you. I don’t think he can enter the portal yet. I believe he has to wait until the next window opens. I guess he could announce he’s going to enter the portal, but he would’ve had to made that decision a few weeks ago for him to actually be listed in the transfer portal.
Maybe. I wonder if the type of person who could actually give up watching college football follows it enough to even know about players transferring over and over again? We know about it because we follow college football 24/7/365 and although we could threaten to quit watching, but could any of us actually stop watching altogether? I don’t think I could, no matter how much I disagree with the changes they are making.
I feel better knowing Orji is locked in as the starter and knowing that RGIII is going to say something during a broadcast that will be followed by an insincere apology and suspension/firing.
I would understand if they had a program changing commit or an elite class that will instantly elevate them, but I don’t think that’s the case. If they lost their entire roster, but landed a top notch coach, it would be worth the risk, but they would probably be better off starting over. Hopefully we take the opposite approach (get an elite coach and let the roster turnover take place) and we’ll see which one worked better in a few years. My guess, (assuming we hire an established, sought after coach) in three years we will be a top five seed in the tournament and they will be looking for a new coach again.
Agreed. I was pulling for Dusty May but when I learned about Medved’s system, I was more impressed with him. First from Brian’s breakdown and then from the Athletic article he referenced. I might be a bandwagon fan of the candidates during this search so I reserve the right to change my mind again.
…we held Nebraska to 70% shooting in the first half
I reserve the use of “we” for only the positives. When it’s bad, it’s “they”. Football = We are the National Champions. Basketball = They stink. I think it helps with my confidence.
This would be great news. I don’t see why he would need a waiver.
2019 - RS
2020 - Covid
2021 - RS Freshman
2022 - RS Sophomore
2023 - RS Junior
2024 - RS Senior
Anyone know the current scholarship count? I understand there’s ways around the 85 cap, but I would guess we are under by a few and will be somewhat aggressive in the post-spring portal window.
Not to mention losing an ELITE head coach and replacing him with a first time head coach. Plus the majority of last year’s staff is gone. I don’t think next year is a complete rebuild, but we don’t have to go undefeated and win it all to have a successful year. Especially with the schedule our team has to play.
The other side of that is at what position will we better next year? QB, WR, RB, and OL - No and most likely a big step down. We lost all of our depth on defense and need another corner and a nickel. Not to mention losing an elite Head Coach and most of his staff. Oh and our schedule is one of the toughest in the country. If we still had Harbaugh and staff, I would say 10-2 next year. Under Moore and his staff? We’ll see.
I wouldn’t complain if we could make that happen. I would also offer Dusty May double whatever IU is going to offer him (assuming they move on from Woodson to get May) and at least make him say no.
I believe it. Although if the $2 million for Sabb is accurate, how much did they offer Caleb Downs to stay and how much did OSU have to offer to get him to leave Alabama?
I believe we are 3-16 (11 double digit losses) with Juwan as the head coach this year. Not great. Also, had I known St. John’s was going to be our best win of the year, I would’ve appreciated and celebrated it more.
I am biased and maybe it’s influencing my opinion but a recruit meeting with a couple of OSU boosters and taking a picture with them sounds as bad, if not worse than our staff feeding a couple of guys who stopped by campus unexpectedly.
As an obvious homer opinion, I think anything after the 3rd round and he becomes an absolute steal. He can make guys miss in the hole and he just needs a sliver of daylight to make it to the second level.
Our situation is probably a little unique because we lost a coach after winning a national championship and we lost a lot of starters and have openings/playing time available at almost every position group.
What’s our scholarship count? It seems like we should have a few open scholarships for incoming transfers.
Is it tampering if a team reaches out through the players rep/agent or a family member? 11Warriors has a short article about a Mom of one of their b-ball players getting slammed with calls from other schools since Holtmann was fired. I’m guessing it’s legal as long as a school doesn’t directly contact a recruit, but so don’t really know the rules for tampering.
College football and basketball athletes are basically free agents every and I have no idea how you get it under control. If we are able to keep Grant, Graham, Loveland, Edwards, and Johnson it will be a huge testament to our program considering the money they are being offered and the coaching staff turnover they’ve endured this offseason.
Texas is absolutely loaded. They return a lot of talent on offense, including an Heisman front runner at Quarterback and they have hit the portal hard to fill holes. We have no idea who will be our QB and we’ve lost our top six OL, RB1, and WR1. We have a new Head Coach, a new OC, an entirely new defensive staff, and we’ve lost all our depth on defense, but we’re only a 2.5 point dog against a preseason top 5 team. If we win or even come close to covering the spread, I don’t think we’ll have any problems reaching 10 wins.
Relationships and money are important. You need at least one of those to get a commitment these days, but if you want elite talent, you better have both.
You can go into the portal, commit elsewhere and still finish the semester with your current school. They would miss spring practice and probably won’t be able to work out in the team’s facilities. So there’s really no point to transfer now. It would be smarter to wait until after spring if you’re already on campus.
I don’t know if they out-bidding on every single player that commits to them. They’ve been recruiting at a top level ever since Urban Meyer showed up, but does it matter if they are buying players? Whether we like it or not, recruits are getting paid and it’s unrealistic to expect our staff to consistently build an elite team with one hand tied behind their back. It’s time our NIL collectives elevate their game and allows our staff an opportunity to compete in recruiting.
“Me and Coach (Steve) Clinck(scale) have a real good bond,” Pickett said. “The coaching change really didn’t matter as long as Coach Clink was still there…”
I’m sticking with blaming Warde. Before he promotes Moore, he should’ve made sure that he had commitments from his staff ready to go. If Moore didn’t have most of his assistants lined up, then you go ahead with a full search and make sure you get the best possible candidate. It may still have been Moore, but at least you completed a thorough search.
Maybe we can make it like a tie up in basketball. If you win the coin toss, you receive, the loser has the possession arrow. They would get the ball to start the second half or after a fumble out of bounds, OR…Maybe a fumble out of bounds is a ten yard penalty and loss of down. It’s weird that a fumble out of bounds is a positive for the offense, unless it’s out of the opponent’s end zone. Just a very odd rule and it only makes sense because we are used to it.
Chip was an excellent OC, but that was a long time ago. Defenses are smaller and quicker now. I don’t think his system and tempo is very effective anymore. They will put up big numbers against bad teams and struggle with the good ones.
Is this all old information or is the NCAA still digging? If it’s all old, I would prefer Mars just keep quiet and let it die a peaceful death. If he pokes the NCAA, they will attack.
They can enter the transfer portal and commit to another school while they still attend Michigan through the end of the semester. I would assume they wouldn’t be allowed to train and workout at Michigan facilities
Now that college players are getting NIL, I assume many of them have agents. Is it considered tampering if Texas contacts their agent to let them know they have $2 million for them if they were to become a Longhorn or is it only tampering if they directly contact the player?
Even if agent contact isn’t allowed, I’m sure there are ways to get the message to the player without breaking the rules.
Last night OSU blew an 18 point second half lead for the second time in Big Ten play this season. Since we beat them, they are the worst team in the conference. I wonder who will get fired first, Juwan or OSU’s coach?
Can he coordinate a defense? What about recognizing talent and recruiting them? I’m not thrilled with this option, but I don’t know crap. I guess we’ll see.
I’m not a regular poster and I disappear during my busy season at work, but I’m a regular lurker. I think I was a Harbaugh defender, but I believe I may have even caved and suggested that maybe we should consider other coaches. Anyway, I don’t think the situation with Warde is the same thing as Harbaugh. Jim had a lot of bad breaks that would’ve changed the opinion of him before 2021. Warde however hasn’t done anything that I can think of to suggest that he’s the right man for the job.
I could be forgetting or missing something, but I have nothing in the pro column for Warde and a number of items in the cons. I think it’s time to move on and find someone who is a little more aggressive, that our coaches will respect, and someone they know will fight for their success.
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He wasn’t going to play here, so this is probably the best thing for everyone. He can go start at a MAC school and he’s not wasting a scholarship here. Good luck to him.
Baker’s “fair and square” comment was in defense of notifying schools of an ongoing investigation, not in defense of our championship. Yes he said we won fair and square, but at the same time, he also said the evidence of cheating was very compelling.
I don’t think the ncaa will vacate any wins, but after issuing show cause penalties and probation over the cheeseburgers, who knows what they’ll do over sign-gate.
I was thinking the same thing. We win a championship right when recruiting becomes all about NIL. Of course, it may have been that way for a while now, but it’s only recently become legal.
If his job wasn’t working with young men and being a role model for them, I would say that the court’s punishment is sufficient, but there’s no way this can go unpunished. I hate to say it, but I think he needs to be let go.
To be fair, in the same interview he said they (ncaa) received evidence there was an elaborate sign stealing scheme and the evidence was very compelling. It’s not like he said the investigation is over, we won fair and square. There will be a punishment for it, but I think they will just affirm the suspension that was already served. I don’t see some massive loss of scholarships or anything like that, but we haven’t heard the last of sign-gate.
I’m guessing he’s leaving for immediate playing time. Between Edwards, Mullings, and our QB, there’s not a lot of carries available. If he wants to sit and learn from a couple of the best and then takeover in ‘25, then yeah, I would welcome him with open arms. Maybe he’ll fill the void Judkins left at Ole Miss.
I heard/read that Davis’ dad or someone called out EJ Holland for a prediction or something. I think he was just trying to let his son have his moment whenever he announced his commitment. Holland took it personally and has ripped on Davis ever since. Davis put up the same numbers his junior and senior years, yet Holland switched from praise to criticism. I might have some of that wrong, but I’m guessing it’s the same guy. Davis dropped a lot in the rankings, but most of it was during the off season. I’ll take a QB that gets it done on the field, versus the guy who gets all of his accolades in shorts and struggles in real games.
Allegedly Devin Brown is currently QB1 at OSU and I’m sure Will Howard doesn’t want to spend his final year as OSU’s second string Quarterback. I get the argument that if he can’t start at OSU, why would we want him, but he’s a much better fit here than at OSU. He’s a very good runner and OSU doesn’t really use rpo’s anymore. He’s just an average thrower but if you add in his threat to run, he’s a weapon at QB.
OSU will probably string him along, and keep him around knowing Brown is injury prone, but Howard should jump in the portal again and he’s an instant upgrade over any QB in our room for our style of run-first offense.
I’m all for playing a weak OOC schedule. It might be chicken shit, but we already play an additional conference game compared to the sec and it allows us to get significant playing time to the younger guys which was key in developing our depth the last couple of years.
As a Commanders fan, this is exciting and I’m hoping they don’t screw it up. Last year they basically didn’t have a first round pick because the guy they took in the first, may have been available in the second. The guy they took in the second would’ve probably been available in the third, and so on.
We want to eliminate the kickoff, but not the thirty eight commercials that bookend a kickoff, so this sort of works.
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I’m not trying to be negative, just realistic. Even if he is that rare case that comes back quickly, the odds of him playing at an elite level this season aren’t very good. I hope he proves me (and everyone else who assumes he’s done for the year) wrong.
You really have to feel bad for the guy. He could’ve went pro, but decides to come back to be a leader with a whole new defensive staff and doesn’t even make it through spring practice. I guess if you’re a silver lining kind of person, right now is probably the best time to tear a ligament, if there is such a thing. He’ll miss the season, but should be back to 100% for a pro day or maybe spring ball if he decides to return again.
We should have a few open scholarships now and can go after a few players in the portal. I think it reopens April 15th and closes April 30th. So we should have a couple of weeks with some action here soon.
Per twitter he has announced that he will be entering the portal.
I’m with you. I don’t think he can enter the portal yet. I believe he has to wait until the next window opens. I guess he could announce he’s going to enter the portal, but he would’ve had to made that decision a few weeks ago for him to actually be listed in the transfer portal.
Maybe. I wonder if the type of person who could actually give up watching college football follows it enough to even know about players transferring over and over again? We know about it because we follow college football 24/7/365 and although we could threaten to quit watching, but could any of us actually stop watching altogether? I don’t think I could, no matter how much I disagree with the changes they are making.
I feel better knowing Orji is locked in as the starter and knowing that RGIII is going to say something during a broadcast that will be followed by an insincere apology and suspension/firing.
I would understand if they had a program changing commit or an elite class that will instantly elevate them, but I don’t think that’s the case. If they lost their entire roster, but landed a top notch coach, it would be worth the risk, but they would probably be better off starting over. Hopefully we take the opposite approach (get an elite coach and let the roster turnover take place) and we’ll see which one worked better in a few years. My guess, (assuming we hire an established, sought after coach) in three years we will be a top five seed in the tournament and they will be looking for a new coach again.
Agreed. I was pulling for Dusty May but when I learned about Medved’s system, I was more impressed with him. First from Brian’s breakdown and then from the Athletic article he referenced. I might be a bandwagon fan of the candidates during this search so I reserve the right to change my mind again.
It’s 10:10 p.m. est and Juwan Howard hasn’t been fired yet. What is taking so long?
I reserve the use of “we” for only the positives. When it’s bad, it’s “they”. Football = We are the National Champions. Basketball = They stink. I think it helps with my confidence.
This would be great news. I don’t see why he would need a waiver.
2019 - RS
2020 - Covid
2021 - RS Freshman
2022 - RS Sophomore
2023 - RS Junior
2024 - RS Senior
Anyone know the current scholarship count? I understand there’s ways around the 85 cap, but I would guess we are under by a few and will be somewhat aggressive in the post-spring portal window.
Not to mention losing an ELITE head coach and replacing him with a first time head coach. Plus the majority of last year’s staff is gone. I don’t think next year is a complete rebuild, but we don’t have to go undefeated and win it all to have a successful year. Especially with the schedule our team has to play.
The other side of that is at what position will we better next year? QB, WR, RB, and OL - No and most likely a big step down. We lost all of our depth on defense and need another corner and a nickel. Not to mention losing an elite Head Coach and most of his staff. Oh and our schedule is one of the toughest in the country. If we still had Harbaugh and staff, I would say 10-2 next year. Under Moore and his staff? We’ll see.
I wouldn’t complain if we could make that happen. I would also offer Dusty May double whatever IU is going to offer him (assuming they move on from Woodson to get May) and at least make him say no.
True. I would take this football/basketball results combination every single year.
Should’ve fired him after the Sanderson incident.
I believe it. Although if the $2 million for Sabb is accurate, how much did they offer Caleb Downs to stay and how much did OSU have to offer to get him to leave Alabama?
I believe we are 3-16 (11 double digit losses) with Juwan as the head coach this year. Not great. Also, had I known St. John’s was going to be our best win of the year, I would’ve appreciated and celebrated it more.
I am biased and maybe it’s influencing my opinion but a recruit meeting with a couple of OSU boosters and taking a picture with them sounds as bad, if not worse than our staff feeding a couple of guys who stopped by campus unexpectedly.
As an obvious homer opinion, I think anything after the 3rd round and he becomes an absolute steal. He can make guys miss in the hole and he just needs a sliver of daylight to make it to the second level.
Laying in the weeds just waiting for the BTT to strike. If we win our opening round game, I’ll look at the bracket and convince myself it’s possible.
Our situation is probably a little unique because we lost a coach after winning a national championship and we lost a lot of starters and have openings/playing time available at almost every position group.
What’s our scholarship count? It seems like we should have a few open scholarships for incoming transfers.
Is it tampering if a team reaches out through the players rep/agent or a family member? 11Warriors has a short article about a Mom of one of their b-ball players getting slammed with calls from other schools since Holtmann was fired. I’m guessing it’s legal as long as a school doesn’t directly contact a recruit, but so don’t really know the rules for tampering.
College football and basketball athletes are basically free agents every and I have no idea how you get it under control. If we are able to keep Grant, Graham, Loveland, Edwards, and Johnson it will be a huge testament to our program considering the money they are being offered and the coaching staff turnover they’ve endured this offseason.
Texas is absolutely loaded. They return a lot of talent on offense, including an Heisman front runner at Quarterback and they have hit the portal hard to fill holes. We have no idea who will be our QB and we’ve lost our top six OL, RB1, and WR1. We have a new Head Coach, a new OC, an entirely new defensive staff, and we’ve lost all our depth on defense, but we’re only a 2.5 point dog against a preseason top 5 team. If we win or even come close to covering the spread, I don’t think we’ll have any problems reaching 10 wins.
Relationships and money are important. You need at least one of those to get a commitment these days, but if you want elite talent, you better have both.
You can go into the portal, commit elsewhere and still finish the semester with your current school. They would miss spring practice and probably won’t be able to work out in the team’s facilities. So there’s really no point to transfer now. It would be smarter to wait until after spring if you’re already on campus.
I don’t know if they out-bidding on every single player that commits to them. They’ve been recruiting at a top level ever since Urban Meyer showed up, but does it matter if they are buying players? Whether we like it or not, recruits are getting paid and it’s unrealistic to expect our staff to consistently build an elite team with one hand tied behind their back. It’s time our NIL collectives elevate their game and allows our staff an opportunity to compete in recruiting.
Why would he tell the players he was staying? At that point he knew he wasn’t getting the DC job.
Yeah, it’s probably not looking too good now.
I’m sticking with blaming Warde. Before he promotes Moore, he should’ve made sure that he had commitments from his staff ready to go. If Moore didn’t have most of his assistants lined up, then you go ahead with a full search and make sure you get the best possible candidate. It may still have been Moore, but at least you completed a thorough search.
What about Hart? Any word on him?
Maybe we can make it like a tie up in basketball. If you win the coin toss, you receive, the loser has the possession arrow. They would get the ball to start the second half or after a fumble out of bounds, OR…Maybe a fumble out of bounds is a ten yard penalty and loss of down. It’s weird that a fumble out of bounds is a positive for the offense, unless it’s out of the opponent’s end zone. Just a very odd rule and it only makes sense because we are used to it.
Chip was an excellent OC, but that was a long time ago. Defenses are smaller and quicker now. I don’t think his system and tempo is very effective anymore. They will put up big numbers against bad teams and struggle with the good ones.
Is this all old information or is the NCAA still digging? If it’s all old, I would prefer Mars just keep quiet and let it die a peaceful death. If he pokes the NCAA, they will attack.
They can enter the transfer portal and commit to another school while they still attend Michigan through the end of the semester. I would assume they wouldn’t be allowed to train and workout at Michigan facilities
Now that college players are getting NIL, I assume many of them have agents. Is it considered tampering if Texas contacts their agent to let them know they have $2 million for them if they were to become a Longhorn or is it only tampering if they directly contact the player?
Even if agent contact isn’t allowed, I’m sure there are ways to get the message to the player without breaking the rules.
Last night OSU blew an 18 point second half lead for the second time in Big Ten play this season. Since we beat them, they are the worst team in the conference. I wonder who will get fired first, Juwan or OSU’s coach?
Can he coordinate a defense? What about recognizing talent and recruiting them? I’m not thrilled with this option, but I don’t know crap. I guess we’ll see.
I’m not a regular poster and I disappear during my busy season at work, but I’m a regular lurker. I think I was a Harbaugh defender, but I believe I may have even caved and suggested that maybe we should consider other coaches. Anyway, I don’t think the situation with Warde is the same thing as Harbaugh. Jim had a lot of bad breaks that would’ve changed the opinion of him before 2021. Warde however hasn’t done anything that I can think of to suggest that he’s the right man for the job.
I could be forgetting or missing something, but I have nothing in the pro column for Warde and a number of items in the cons. I think it’s time to move on and find someone who is a little more aggressive, that our coaches will respect, and someone they know will fight for their success.