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Signgate The Fifth: The Say Anything Stage Comment Count

Brian October 30th, 2023 at 1:30 PM

Petering out. Over the weekend, nothing much happened. We were already starting to get articles that contain no new NCAA-relevant information and don't stand up to even a cursory fact-check—see Friday's post on claims that TCU's brilliant scheme duped Michigan—and now, uh:

Multiple sources from one Big Ten school told SI that a coach at a different school called them before playing Michigan to warn them about Wolverines ball boys on their sideline listening to play calls and communicating information to the Michigan sideline—holding the football up in one hand to indicate an expected pass, and in the other hand to indicate a run, for instance. (Sources at the school that was warned said they experienced nothing in the game to implicate the Michigan ball boys.)

We're now at the stage where people will say crazy shit to anyone, and that person will just publish it. Sometimes it's without bothering to check the plausibility of such a thing (Dellenger), and sometimes you'll even get a denial and still say "let's do it and be legends," as above. As far as Dellenger goes, his latest is about OSU asking the CFP whether they can scout the other game and getting a "yes," which doesn't do anything but indicate where this is coming from.

Meanwhile, the ball boy claims are part of a Pat Forde article in which he exhorts people to do things they're not allowed to do by NCAA rule…

Harbaugh is almost certain to try to no-comment his way through the press conference Monday, citing the NCAA’s confidentiality dictates during an ongoing investigation. That’s fine. But it seems appropriate for athletic director Warde Manuel—or even president Santa Ono—to step to the lectern Monday and address this.

…and proposes that Michigan self-administer a punishment as a "rogue" program with a smarmy "Any interest in leading here, Michigan?" Yes, I have interest in leading this column into the garbage. The future is now, old man.

[After THE JUMP: the Harbaugh show cause threat]

The non-event. The one thing that tried to happen over the weekend was a Wall Street Journal article claiming that Jim Harbaugh's contract offer had been "rescinded," which is language that should immediately perk your ears up. It is true that Michigan had a contract offer on the table for Harbaugh, and almost certainly true that Jim Harbaugh cannot sign that contract at this instant. Characterizing that as "rescinded" is the way you might put it if you were a bitter old man with an axe to grind and some access to insider information. Plenty of those around  these days; some of them are even on the infractions committee.

If you were more even-handed you might characterize such an event as an "obviously mandatory delay," or some such. Webb/Bacon:

FWIW, this leak was characterized to us as "absolute bullshit."

Speaking of… not often you can put "dunked on by a regent" on the ol' poaster resume, so kudos to this guy:

The strong impression we have gotten is that there is a 0% chance the University of Michigan self-imposes anything before the end of the 2023 season—they have not even gotten a notice of allegations or their 90-day window to respond—and would immediately head to the courts if any other entity attempted such a stunt.

Provenance. There's no question where this comes from: OSU insider Bill Greene was making dark allusions to it a month before it ever came out. Exactly how things came about and who was involved is an interesting question, because if there's one thing hiring a private investigator invites it's more private investigators. It is a reported fact that there's a firm running this; the main remaining question is how personally involved folks in the OSU program were.

Sam put up a post yesterday that collected the circumstantial evidence against OSU and then provided another couple potential connections before getting into the fact that Christopher Day is a PI in New Hampshire, where Ryan is from. This immediately started a game of paywall telephone that I tried to defuse:

Unfortunately, OSU is much better at this than Michigan and is unlikely to have written Ryan Day's brother a big check with "Sign stealing! Go berks!" in the memo. There is not going to be the big reveal here; it'll remain speculation without proof. And even if there was a big reveal, the die is cast in re: NCAA.

It doesn't really matter who, except insofar as it proves Day is shook.

The big question. The NCAA changed their rules this offseason to make it harder for head coaches to dodge responsibility when their underlings break rules. The text of the change:

NCAA Bylaw 11.1.1, “Head Coach Responsibility,” imposes a presumption of head coach accountability for impermissible acts committed by assistant coaches and administrators within their program.

Saying "I didn't know" is no longer good enough, and the punishment is now mitigatable but draconian:

If there is a Level I or II violation(s) in a sport program, the enforcement staff will charge a head coach responsibility violation at the same level as the underlying violation(s).

Connor Stalions is getting a billion-year show cause and without mitigation the NCAA can just slap that same penalty on Harbaugh. How do you mitigate?

…head coaches must rely upon a three-prong strategy: A demonstration that the coach adequately monitored the activities of employees under their supervision, actively engaged in rules education activities with employees under their supervision, and actively communicated compliance concerns and reported information that could constitute a NCAA compliance issue.

There are a bunch of individual bullet points that can be taken in a coach's favor ("Actively soliciting feedback to determine if compliance systems are functioning properly," etc.) that both links in this section list. The NCAA released a guideline about how they're going to enforce this rule:

First, enforcement will consider factors related to the coaches’ education, monitoring, and communication efforts in deciding whether an 11.1.1 violation exists, and the severity of the violation.

Second, the head coach will have the opportunity to present information to the Committee on Infractions panel demonstrating that the coach satisfied these three areas of obligations.

Finally, the Committee on Infractions Hearing Panel will consider NCAA enforcement’s allegation and the coach’s rebuttal in making its determination as to whether Bylaw 11.1.1 was violated and what the appropriate classification of the penalty should be.

Takeaway: Head coaches will need to commit significant time to not only engaging in the three areas of presumption rebuttal, but also documenting and filing those efforts. It is strongly encouraged that all Division I Head Coaches begin to coordinate the creation of a filing system documenting their efforts, if they have not already.

The bold is mine. That does not sound like an area of strength for an athletic department that's announcing Shemy Shembechler's hire before anyone did a cursory search for racist social media likes. Nor does it sound like something Jim Harbaugh is proactively going to do himself. It's the NCAA, where the rules are made up and don't matter, but in past cases that has leaned towards letting Kansas and Tennessee off. Whatever personal vendettas Jim Harbaugh has racked up in the last decade could be coming due, especially since he's coming off a three-game suspension for what looks like blowing off an NCAA investigation into some secondary violations.

This is new ground for the NCAA; Harbaugh will be the first head coach subject to this rule for a newsworthy scandal-type substance. I would not be surprised if they bomb him, personally, and leave the rest of the program more or less intact. That would take at least a year or two to process, but if Harbaugh gets any NFL offer with that hanging over his head he's going to take it.

About that. I'm not buying this:

The NFL is unlikely to make itself a safe harbor for Harbaugh to escape what could be substantial NCAA discipline, league sources say, raising the strong possibility Harbaugh would need to serve some or all of any possible suspension he could face in college if he returns to the pros.

There isn't a bylaw governing the matter. But sources pointed to former Ohio State head coach Jim Tressel as precedent for how the NFL and its teams could handle a college suspension of Harbaugh.

Jim Tressel didn't take a moribund 49ers team to three straight NFC championships. I have heard that all this has made him less attractive to the NFL because it's a reminder of all the Harbaugh Shit you have to put up with when you hire Harbaugh, but the Bears loom as the kind of franchise that's desperate enough to ignore all that.

On campus. There were various confused reports about the NCAA being on campus and meeting with unknown persons. FWIW, we believe they were on campus and met with Santa Ono primarily. (This section is speculative, no insider info present.)

How egregious can it be? Brian Kelly on the whole thing:

"…this isn't the first time we've heard of sign stealing," he said, "whether there is proposed sign stealing or people were buying tickets to other games. This is all part of why this should not even be part of the equation."

Kelly said the tangible effect of stealing signals is debatable. In 32 years of coaching, he said, he has never believed they lost a game because of it.

"I've never come back to the office and go, they got us," he added.

If this is such a tremendous advantage why would the NCAA go thirty years without implementing a quick fix? Why would football coaches—the most paranoid group of professionals anywhere on this earth—not go to un-hackable wristbands? The claims that this is the WORST SCANDAL EVER simply do not align with the behavior of anyone in the sport for the last three decades.

Etc.: Timothy, you gotta chill out about this. "Harbaugh had to know what Stalions had seen in Oxford. The world had to know."

Comments

turtleboy

October 30th, 2023 at 1:59 PM ^

This feels like a tit-for-tat for Tressel and tattoogate, only the Buckeyes actually did something wrong, and Harbaugh has not, so Tressel resigned, while Harbaugh goes on to win a national championship.

stephenrjking

October 30th, 2023 at 1:59 PM ^

I don't know if Michigan will win against OSU this year. They've got talent, a great D, it's a rivalry game.

I certainly don't know if Michigan will win big.

And I definitely don't know if Michigan will score a late TD to hit 48 with the conversion coming.

But if they do, I want Harbaugh to go for two. 

1145SoFo

October 30th, 2023 at 4:01 PM ^

Knowing all the obvious rumors that OSU has been behind these headlines AND knowing how we the fans feel, imagine how the actual players have felt about this distraction and already needing to answer questions about it. I hope it is the top tier motivation that it appears to be. Some theorize how much "bulletin board" material matters to internally motivated athletes, but maybe this is big enough to truly push another gear 

yossarians tree

October 30th, 2023 at 1:59 PM ^

As Finebaum said, if this wasn't Michigan it would not be a big deal. Since the NCAA rules on a whim, they could send a slap on the wrist or suspend JH for a year. They obviously don't like Harbaugh, but do they risk further pissing off one of the blueblood programs in all of CFP out of pure spite. 

Michigan should sign Harbaugh's new extension NOW and make it known to the NCAA that any action will be met with massive legal action from a program with deep pockets and better lawyers.

AlbanyBlue

October 30th, 2023 at 4:05 PM ^

No other school in the country, and I'm pretty confident saying that. While other college football powers clearly give off similar airs of superiority -- Alabama and Notre Dame jump instantly to mind -- it seems as though the NCAA bends over backwards for them, while for Michigan it's different. Michigan football doesn't seem to have the backing of the NCAA (clearly), its own conference (going all the way back to 1973, and now look at Michigan's 2024 schedule compared to OSU and PSU), or even its own school / AD.

It may have something to do with Harbaugh and what he's done (satellite camps in the south, advocacy for paying players) or maybe his personality, which does come off as a bit strange. But for professional organizations to carry out personal vendettas seems just batshit crazy. It's apparently what's happening now though. 

Another thing to consider is that other schools, when under scrutiny, have played either a delaying game or serious hardball, while Michigan seems almost willing to punish itself and/or take whatever punishment is coming. Because of this, the NCAA can operate from a position of strength and lower the boom. They should not be given the option to do this -- but in Michigan's case, they are.

stephenrjking

October 30th, 2023 at 2:01 PM ^

BTW, I have no idea why the contract situation has gone on so long ("blame Warde" is no longer sufficient reason because Ono stepped over Warde this past winter, and if Warde were the only hold-up, he'd be overruled by the president) but whatever reason may or may not relate tangentially to this, but to me there's no way that Harbaugh was about to sign a deal in the past week and had the deal pulled. No way at all. 

I think there's probably some uncertainty due to Weiss and burgers and stuff already and they're waiting for it all to shake out, and maybe this gets added to that list. But it was weird before and it's no weirder now. 

bronxblue

October 30th, 2023 at 2:09 PM ^

Yeah, there's absolutely no reason to believe UM would have signed an agreement with Harbaugh during a random bye week.  The minute I saw it break in the WSJ I knew (a) that's not a news source with that level of contacts into Michigan's AD, and (b) saying it was "rescinded" reads like what a business writer would think the process goes, not how it actually occurred.

yossarians tree

October 30th, 2023 at 2:03 PM ^

The idea that the NFL would back up the NCAA and refuse to hire Harbaugh is laughable. The NFL is thankfully one of the last true meritocracies. They take whatever will give them an edge.

lhglrkwg

October 30th, 2023 at 2:04 PM ^

Day's running out of excuses. People had the flu, it was cold, it was flurrying, it was just five plays, they totally stole our signs and that's why we lost not because our offense is super predictable and our run game is ranked in the 120s. It's not Ryan!

Excited to see what excuse comes next

gbdub

October 30th, 2023 at 2:04 PM ^

If a possible outcome is a show-cause for Harbaugh, why on earth would Michigan be accepting (as was reported) that a violation actually occurred?

If the probable allegations remain just “Stallions paid some guys otherwise unaffiliated with the Michigan staff to personally film games from publicly accessible areas”, that seems to be legitimately unclear as an actual rules violation. 

Spirit vs letter of the law, yada yada, but why isn’t Michigan fighting for their interests here? There’s nothing wrong with mounting a defense over a vague rule if your best HC in half a century is on the line. 

MBloGlue

October 30th, 2023 at 3:02 PM ^

I disagree that there is conflict here between the spirit vs letter of the law. If anything, the “spirit of the law” is on Michigan’s side, while the letter of the law is less clear. Allowing schools to arrange for non-staff to sit in the stands to record games would actually further the purpose of the rules by leveling the playing field between the larger and smaller programs. The financial savings of this “virtual scouting” practice would most help the smaller programs save on staff time and expenses, which was the whole purpose of the prohibition in in-person staff scouting to begin with. 

MBloGlue

October 30th, 2023 at 4:31 PM ^

So why isn’t Michigan’s side making this argument publicly? That article raises a very important historical point. At the time the rule was enacted in 1994, sign stealing wasn’t even a thing. It only became a competitive issue once teams started switching to no huddle offenses and using signs —rather than huddling— to send in plays. 

 I’m repeating myself here, but the best solution is for the NCAA to legalize the practice for everyone. And then slap Michigan on the wrist for building a better mousetrap without telling anyone as a way to save face (although Michigan sign stealing was probably the worst kept secret since Taylor Swift’s dating life).

Once you take into account the enforcement implication of prohibiting the practice, the most sensible option is simply to permit it, at which point everyone adjusts and the competitive advantage becomes trivial. Conversely, prohibiting the practice will lead to Big Brother levels of surveillance among fans and ridiculous outcomes: “Hey! Why is that random dude filming the dumpsters behind the Big House? He must be scouting for Iowa’s offense. Dox him on Twitter and call security!”

DelhiWolverine

October 30th, 2023 at 2:06 PM ^

OK if no one has read the Touchdown Timothy link, it's awesome! Spoiler alert: He's a Miami 'Canes fan. Below is part of his rationale for ranking the 'Canes 6th in the country lol

The only “Marks” on Miami’s record are 2 Fraudulent “Losses” with MAJOR ASTERISKS—the ACC Rigged Refereeing Scandal and Coach Cristobal’s CTE-Fueled Incompetence ROBBED MIAMI of a GUARANTEED win against Georgia Tech (who comes in at #25 in my CFP rankings)—JUST TAKE THE KNEE!!!! The MIAMI team WON THE GAME!!!!! ANYONE WHO WATCHED CAN SEE IT!!!! The other Stolen Win was Due to the NCAA “Eligibility” SCANDAL—NCAA Tampering allowing “Transferrin’ Tez” Walker to come in OUT OF NOWHERE—RIGHT BEFORE MIAMI-UNC WEEK—an UNPRECEDENTED, RIGGED DECISION MADE TO “UN-LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD” against MY CANES!!!!!! Take away Transferrin’ Tez and his 3 Fraudulent TDs and guess what? The deficit was only 10 so TAKE AWAY THOSE SCORES AND MIAMI WINS BY DOUBLE DIGITS!!!!! UNC—FRAUDULENT VICTORY!!!!!!

 

bronxblue

October 30th, 2023 at 2:07 PM ^

Pat Forde being considered a sports journalist and not just a creepy old guy who is horny on main in his columns while injecting images of co-eds throughout will forever boggle my mind.

I understand the show-cause concern around Harbaugh but that's a big fucking precedent you're setting then as an institution, and the type that gets the NCAA dragged into court and dog-walked by lawyers who paid attention during law school instead of the failsons who seem to populate the NCAA's ranks.  Yes, Harbaugh will receive some blame and I suspect this pushes him toward the NFL even more especially since I doubt San Diego, Chicago, etc. give one shit about Harbaugh's "antics" if he can win.  But there's a cap to how much you can go after him before you set yourself up for pain.

Yeah, I doubt Ryan Day personally hired the firm to investigate UM but if you told me there's a couple of pictures of him standing and laughing with some rich Columbus booster who winds up having a poorly-documented cash payment via some shell company to a PI firm I wouldn't be remotely surprised.  I know Stalions takes the gold medal for dumb ways to break a rule but there are still spots of the podium for others.

NJblue2

October 30th, 2023 at 2:08 PM ^

Michigan should not accept anything other than a slap on the wrist for the program or Harbaugh, because if you give him a huge punishment for this, you'll have to pretty much suspend every coach for everything going forward. 

mjw

October 30th, 2023 at 2:09 PM ^

That column by Forde was just absolute and total dreck.  The only good thing to come out of this is that all of the hack sportswriters are really outing themselves. 

LSA91

October 30th, 2023 at 2:12 PM ^

It's going to be maddening to have this sword over our neck for a year, but there's no way around it. 

Hopefully we don't take too much of a recruiting hit - this is a great team and coaching staff, and it sounds like our NIL system is at a competitive level now.

DELRIO1978

October 30th, 2023 at 2:12 PM ^

Great Article; If it is proven there was traveling to steal signs, so be it; But what bothers Pat Forde, Stewart Mandel and Ross Dellenger to name three is Harbaugh who never grants them access like other people do - will not be suspended this year, wins will not be vacated and Michigan will not be prevented from postseason;They know the longer the investigation plays out, the smaller this situation becomes; "Leave no doubt" this may (will!) spur the team NOT to play around like against Maryland, Illinois, TCU and Michigan State last year; Not a single scheduled game left no longer concerns me; The B1G championship and playoffs still have to play out but Maryland, Purdue, Penn State and Ohio State(home field) just don't have what it takes; So learn to play on grass, learn how to handle one week off in December, don't waste time waving bye to fans & teams, stop planting flags and stop taking pictures with fans during game; Get. Down. To. Business. Go Blue!

VintageBlue

October 30th, 2023 at 2:19 PM ^

Didn't Michigan just revamp some portion of their compliance team? Regardless, I think the compliance team's effectiveness is a separate matter from Personnel's ability (or license) to vet whatever weirdo Harbaugh wants to hire.

On the new rules regarding a Head Coach's responsibilities, as someone who has spent time in a government agency,  I can tell you what this looks like in a semi-functional administrative environment. HR, IT, Procurement, whoever has very Important Rules that all employees must abide by write up communications to staff, complete with a link to a too-boring training video, requiring staff to review, maybe test, and sign by X date that they've met the requirements. This is then sent out by the executive once or twice a year because it's Serious Business. Maybe the NCAA's standard is way beyond that but much more than that would be insane. Which...ah crap.

Monkey House

October 30th, 2023 at 2:24 PM ^

It's weird how in all aspects of media we just continue to get lies and bullshit fed to us and nothing changes. Politics, sports whatever the arena the media goes unchecked. Crazy

freejs

October 30th, 2023 at 2:25 PM ^

I don't know about this "head coach is responsible" stuff. 

It's a hurdle, but let's be serious. It was put in place to remove plausible deniability when a head coach had created an environment of encouragement of illegal activities. 

It's for head coaches without names on the checks but who definitely rewarded assistant coaches doling out paper bags and really fall under the "they couldn't possibly not have known" camp. 

Unless I see different, this just isn't that. There's the letter of the law, but the NCAA is probably letting "the spirit of the rule" do some heavy lifting to nail the program in the first place. And this really seems more like "honest mistake." Someone went rogue. Is it bad? Yes. Shouldn't happen. But is it really bad? No, no it's not. 

Especially because we are really looking at an area where the NCAA themselves, in something that they published, stated that they saw negligible competitive advantage from this conduct. 

There are absolutely distinctions that can be drawn here and I think they are important ones.  

Wendyk5

October 30th, 2023 at 2:25 PM ^

Programs hiring private investigators to investigate other programs can't be tolerated. The rivalry is played on the field. We've taken our share of losses in the face of some pretty ugly controversies at Ohio State without hiring PI's and tapping into our media influence to try to destroy their reputation. I thought they had more pride in their actual football program than to stoop to something this cowardly. 

FreddieMercuryHayes

October 30th, 2023 at 2:34 PM ^

Oh, this has broken the seal.  If the NCAA does anything to UM at this point, boosters and programs will now consider this a legit avenue.  I hope UM does the same thing to OSU.  I always assumed this hadn't been done yet because it would result in mutually assured destruction.  OSU being the softest program out there apparently has changed this.

njvictor

October 30th, 2023 at 2:52 PM ^

I feel like people aren't talking about this enough. If Day/OSU truly were the ones who hired the PI, then the NCAA better come down on them hard. Like there is no room for extra-curricular bullshit in this sport and I assume there will be a push to punish them, especially from SEC schools, because if they don't and this becomes the norm, then this house of cards called college football is all gonna come tumbling down with how much corruption is leaked