Will Harbaugh Change The Offense To Fit Shea Patterson's Skill Set?
December 8th, 2017 at 8:33 AM ^
To some degree you are correct, but Patterson will definitely have to go under center more. If he can operate out of both shotgun and under center it will really open up Harbaugh's offense even more.
December 8th, 2017 at 3:09 AM ^
Not very relevant to this thread but seeing this youtube video made me sad at how many times M was at the receiving end of random plays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhWkJd6tHqg
Also that Auburn vs Alabama is now more even rivalry than M vs OSU. I want M to beat OSU so bad.
All Shea Patterson to beat those mouth breathers from the south or whoever the QB is. Lets win against those F'ers.
December 8th, 2017 at 3:26 AM ^
December 8th, 2017 at 9:03 AM ^
I've asked this question multiple times and everyone keeps ignoring it. Just 2 or 3 days ago people were saying that he wasn't even going to transfer if he wasn't going to be able to play right away. Now all of a sudden everyone's talking about it like it's a sure thing but we sitll haven't heard whether or not he'll be able to play.
IDK if I missed some news.
December 8th, 2017 at 9:26 AM ^
Spoiler alert: Nobody knows.
The assumption is that Patterson would not transfer if he was not pretty confident of being able to play right away and that Harbaugh would not be bringing him hear if Patterson would not be able to play right away.
So that's what everybody is counting on for the moment.
December 8th, 2017 at 9:50 AM ^
Posters on here were making that guess, but I don't think it ever came from anyone who talked to Patterson. Now Sam Webb has come out said he will transfer without knowing whether he'll be able to play right away. Most likely that was his plan all along.
December 8th, 2017 at 10:51 AM ^
December 8th, 2017 at 9:41 AM ^
I don't know.
All I can add is that I've heard Michigan is interested regardless of whether he's immediately eligible. Not sure if that's a two-way street.
December 8th, 2017 at 4:31 AM ^
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December 8th, 2017 at 5:33 AM ^
i like the cut of your jib, bacon.
December 8th, 2017 at 7:09 AM ^
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December 8th, 2017 at 9:15 AM ^
breakfast sausage is better
December 8th, 2017 at 9:36 AM ^
December 8th, 2017 at 11:51 AM ^
That's great but we better go 8-0 against OSU/MSU and four national championships along with the four Heismans or it's hot seat time for Harbaugh!!!
December 8th, 2017 at 5:50 AM ^
I think Harbaugh will open it up more Patterson. I think the coaches would love to run more spread concepts but just coudn't because of personnel.
Am I the only one that is reluctant to go get Patterson? This would be basically 3 out of 4 years Harbaugh has rolled out a transfer QB. I really like Peters and would hate to see him leave. I get the competition is good argument but the optics look a little bad to me. I wouldn't say I'm exactly against getting Patterson but it just looks a little wonky to me from the outside. Once again, I'm sure the coaches know more than me but I hope we are able to keep our other QB's even if Patterson comes aboard. Honestly, I'm not sure he beats out Peters or DMac. Harbaugh's system isn't easy and I'm not sure you can just roll in and be the man. Either way, it gives me something to follow during the off season.
December 8th, 2017 at 6:32 AM ^
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December 8th, 2017 at 8:06 AM ^
It's silly to hold his bringing Rudock in against Harbaugh in some way. Who would ever use that against him in recruiting? Or using a backup transfer QB who was in his 3rd season here? It really makes no sense. How would we do in 2015 with Morris starting and how would that help recruiting?
The idea that he will stick with the QBs on the roster no matter how much it hurts the team won't help recruit any other position.
Further, if I was Peters and read this blog, I'd be insulted that so many posters think I'll transfer just because of increased competition..
December 8th, 2017 at 8:42 AM ^
I'm not saying that it is wrong to want to get the best QB out on the field. I want to win games and you need the best players to do that. However, I don't think it is unrealistic to think this could be brought up when we are recruiting against other schools. There is this idea that you commit, put in the work, pay your dues and get your chance if you are good enough. Other schools could certainly float the idea that the first chance Harbaugh gets to go get some outsider that he likes better he will do it. I'm not saying it is fair or right but could certainly be spun that way. Peters by all accounts has been a wonderful student-athlete and is getting ready to head into his 3rd year in the program after taking a beating for his team this year, and the fanbase has fallen in love with the idea of chasing some kid that didn't commit to us that we like better. I want to win but feel like there should be a component of loyalty. I know this is big buisness and I sound naive but I wouldn't love it if I was Peters.
December 8th, 2017 at 8:54 AM ^
You can't run a program worrying about what other coaches might say. What kind of QBs do you want to recruit? Those with confidence or those who are afraid of being beaten out by better players? Those that expect to get the starting job just by waiting their turn?
I've said it before, putting QBs into the NFL and winning will help QB recruiting far more than anything else. Recruits see themselves as that guy in the NFL, not the guy who got beaten out for the job. Those are the players you want anyway.
December 8th, 2017 at 9:08 AM ^
"There is this idea that you commit, put in the work, pay your dues and get your chance if you are good enough."
Is that not exactly what's happening regardless of whether or not Patterson gets brought in? The player who is good enough plays? More players just means your good enough MIGHT have to be higher, but your "good enough" was always going to have to be higher than everyone elses regardless of who that "everyone else" was/is.
December 8th, 2017 at 8:58 AM ^
More good players is a good thing. If another guy doesn't want to compete, he can leave.
December 8th, 2017 at 11:02 AM ^
December 8th, 2017 at 6:08 AM ^
1. I don't actually think Patterson will beat out Peters next year. Hold me to that, guys.
2. There are tweaks to the offense that adapt to the quarterbacks--you saw this year they adjusted the offense to match the QB. But this can be overstated. Patterson will get more of an O'Korn-like job I think. But that's not dramatically different than Peters. It'll probably be more about what each is good at in practice--like individual plays.
December 8th, 2017 at 6:26 AM ^
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December 8th, 2017 at 7:30 AM ^
December 8th, 2017 at 7:33 AM ^
Baker Mayfield and Russell Wilson.
December 8th, 2017 at 7:37 AM ^
Please give me an example besides Jake Rudok were transfers have actually worked out.
Russel Wilson
Cam Newton
Will Grier
Jarrett Stidham
Jake Coker
Chad Kelly
Troy Aikman
Baker Mayfield
Scott Frost
December 8th, 2017 at 9:05 AM ^
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Kenny Hill
December 8th, 2017 at 9:41 AM ^
December 8th, 2017 at 7:40 AM ^
The guy winning the Heisman Trophy this year: Baker Mayfield
The guy who led his team to the SEC Championship game: Jarrett Stidham.
This isn't a normal transfer where a guy is leaving a school because someone passed him on the depth chart. This is a starting QB leaving because his school was hit with sanctions that he doesn't want to be a part of.
December 8th, 2017 at 9:53 AM ^
Had Pat Mahomes, Baker Mayfield and Davis Webb all on the same depth chart in 2013. How they held on to only one of them is astounding. Kliff Kingsbury knows how to recruit QB's, it was the playing them part that failed him.
December 8th, 2017 at 7:41 AM ^
Baker Mayfield
December 8th, 2017 at 8:05 AM ^
Well that sort of backfired, didn't it?
December 8th, 2017 at 8:11 AM ^
December 8th, 2017 at 8:40 AM ^
Stidham and Mayfield. I think the Heisman trophy winner would be enough for you. I won't even bother with the rest.
December 8th, 2017 at 2:11 PM ^
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December 8th, 2017 at 6:58 AM ^
December 8th, 2017 at 9:52 AM ^
There's no way Shea Patterson would throw for 346 yards against anybody, let alone Auburn, in the 2017 Michigan offense.
Completely unfair to judge Peters on what Patterson did at Ole Miss.
December 8th, 2017 at 7:39 AM ^
December 8th, 2017 at 10:14 AM ^
what exactly do you want from a RS freshman seeing his first action but 3-0 in dominating fashion with 4 TDs and O Ints coming into a situation with no pass-protection and a team in a complete offensive meltdown when he took over. There is a fair chance we beat Wisconsin also if he doesn’t go down. To force this into “Peters didn’t look that good anyway” is not a fit. My guess is there are about 10 coaches of big time programs hoping that Peters doesn’t take well to the Patterson situation and wants out and will be on his doorstep instantly. He looked very good under the circumstances for a kid seeing his first action.