What is “love”? Harbaugh Hypothosis

Submitted by Blue_Goose on January 13th, 2024 at 9:41 AM

Yes, I know this risks the dreaded snowflake designation. But, alas, on this the first Saturday after the football season, the first Saturday as National Champions (Naturday anyone?) The Saturday we celebrate with a parade;  our greatest concern is will the most Michigan of Michigan Men lead us forward.. I believe this thread is worth it.

I believe Harbaugh, at his core, is a man of integrity. Innocent as a dove but shrewd as a  serpent.  Harbaugh does not seem to have time or energy for anything that distract him from the things that matter to him and so he aligns his every aspect of life for synergy and efficiency. Personal, professional, spiritual, relational, etc. aligned. 

Harbaugh has been attacking Faith, Family, Football with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind since his earliest memories.  All of it exemplified in phrases like Leaders and Best, Michigan Man, The Teamx3, those who stay, better today than yesterday etc.  All phrases we hear and have heard and are tempted to write off as hyperbole or coach speak. 
 

We KNOW Harbaugh is different.  This isn’t coach speak, this is his core identity.  We see this in his coaches and team Faith, Football, Family all merged into a beautiful tapestry we call team 144.  He has reached a pinnacle, a goal, but for the jackhammer, there is no rest. 
 

What is next? What does it mean to be loved? This next section is equal parts wild speculation and listening to the man whonhas led us to where we are today.  A few posters shared similar thoughts in the Bacon thread and so I post this thread in violent agreement with them. I also wonder how many others think the same way…

“The Love” for Harbaugh isn’t the money, it also isn’t his job security (aka the guaranteed money).  These things are important for sure, but Harbaugh doesn’t need an agent to deal with that clause after decades of negotiating his own contracts.. does he? This reasoning also seems too obvious for a typical coach thought process.  These things are about Jim and His security... Harbaugh is more than willing to take the back seatriska nd even sacrifice in order to  elevate those around him. In fact he prefers it.  Are we really going to fall for the “finally getting what he deserves” mindset?!?

Why is Stephen Ross getting involved?  We can pay Jim 150M without Ross.. this is bigger.  Jim as a protector of his “family” and integrity is known to attack the biggest bully in the room, the one that threatens Jim’s sincere ideals of how it ought to be… this is why leaders with limited integrity can’t stand him, why Ryan Day despises him and why Harbaugh ultimately wins. A house built of a flimsy foundation falls.  A house built on integrity stands firm. 

For months Jim has been talking about paying players, he is concerned about people robbing the train that the players are the only ones supplying. They get nothing. Jim has spoke over and over about coaches, universities, media taking a pay cut so players can get their share.  There is zero chance, in my understanding of Jim, that he would allow himself to become the very thing he is attacking. A guaranteed, highest paid, no accountability contract?!?  More likely I’d eat a lemon for pure enjoyment. 

I have to believe “The Love” for Jim involves something more.  Involves providing for the things that matter more. The game of football and the players who give their all.  I believe “The Love” is about utilizing the full influence of M to change the bullshit that is the NCAA.  This is why you need Stephen Ross, why you need an agent, why Santa gets it and why Warde doesn’t.   It’s big, scary, and demands enthusiasm unknown to mankind.  How will “we” respond when the NCAA establishment lashes out to protect itself? 

I could certainly be wrong, probably am since I have no insider information.   Except, I have watched and listened to Jim and I believe him. The man isn’t ever satisfied with status quo, I can’t believe a contract that guarantees everything remain stable for the next 10 years is enough for him. For Jim it’s always what’s next? Onward! How do we get better.

So you read it all?  What do you think?  I’m sure there are those that agree and those that don’t.  I’d love to hear it, neg away if this is too snow-flakey on this winter day.   Maybe it is wishful thinking that the guy who took a pay cut to rescue Michigan football would do whatever it takes  to fix the NCAA as well. But a guy can dream. 

TL;DR - If Harbaugh stays it will be to take on the NCAA head on, get the players paid and “fix” the brokenness that it is. 

MichaelCarras

January 13th, 2024 at 9:52 AM ^

Could be. Seems far more likely he wants Michigan to litigate if he faces NCAA punishment and wants contractual  assurances that the school won't turn around and fire him for cause.

Everything is roses right now.  Let's say they have an 7 win season in a couple of years and Harbaugh gets a severe punishment from the NCAA. He doesn't want to end up like certain other coaches whose universities used scandals as an excuse to get out their contractual obligations because they weren't winning. 

jdemille9

January 13th, 2024 at 10:03 AM ^

Seems far more likely he wants Michigan to litigate if he faces NCAA punishment and wants contractual  assurances that the school won't turn around and fire him for cause.

My personal opinion, which is basically meaningless, is that Harbaugh wants to be here but the contractual issues that need to be worked out re: any punishment handed down by the NCAA stemming from Burgergate or Signgate and not having it be a fireable offense down the line (as you've alluded to above) seem to be the impasse on Michigan's side. IF it could be worked around, I don't see why they can't figure it out. 

Hopefully, they are working behind the scenes to get this taken care of, but if Harbaugh leaves I don't think it is because he wants to go to the NFL more than he wants to be here. 

 

Eng1980

January 13th, 2024 at 10:53 AM ^

I would fine tune it a bit.  In my opinion, worth what you paid for it, Harbaugh wants support for a full investigation, counter lawsuit, against the NCAA.  The NCAA is so frivolous, disingenuous, and arbitrary, Jim may be looking for support throughout a process where the NCAA picks and chooses the evidence, judge, and jury without what any fair human would call due process.

I don't think any coach would lie about a low-level violation.  It just isn't worth it.  I think the NCAA has a habit of asking, re-asking, and rephrasing questions until you answer one carelessly while distracted or exhausted.  That is what Harbaugh is fighting in my assessment.  

Head football coaches are responsible for the actions of about 250 people, every day, 24/7, all day long and you want them to drop everything to carefully answer questions about approving a lunch receipt incorrectly two years ago?  The NCAA has a charter.  Getting cute and self-indulgent with a feeling of self-importance is not part of the that charter.

The Blue Collar

January 13th, 2024 at 10:01 AM ^

He wants to be assured Michigan won't bend the knee (again) to the B1G or the NCAA and they'll go scorched earth in court if any more garbage gets tossed at him.

And I don't blame him.

jdemille9

January 13th, 2024 at 10:05 AM ^

I felt they did a good job, or at least maintained a good posturing, during Signgate and their willingness to file a TRO and take the issue to court.

However, the fact that they backed off in the end seems concerning to me. Why? Was there new information that was damning to Michigan? Either way, it feels like Michigan showed some balls in standing up to the B1G, so why wouldn't they do that again in the future? Especially if it has a major impact on keeping the man who might be your greatest coach ever. 

Eng1980

January 13th, 2024 at 11:24 AM ^

The explanation posted on this Blog was that TRO court proceedings are relatively weak.  They are setup to act quick and are NOT setup to get the whole story and the court was going not going to rule in Michigan's favor.  If the court was going to rule in Michigan's favor, it would have done so before the PSU game and without a hearing.  When the Court scheduled the hearing for a week later it was a signal that there would be no TRO.  Then Michigan's recourse was to go to a full trial or quickly settle.  The full trial would be scheduled for after the season so it would be of no help although Michigan would likely win the ruling at that time but, they would have lost the agreement to end any further punishment.  They negotiated a total conclusion.  No more shenanigans.

Partridge violations would have been a non-event in most cases except for the timing.  There was no new information.  It is not proof that Michigan did anything wrong beyond talking about the case.  It is not proof that the case was valid.  It was about moving on as well and quickly as possible.

jdemille9

January 13th, 2024 at 1:38 PM ^

Then assuming the above is true, what is Michigan's issue in backing Harbaugh vs. the NCAA and B1G and getting that type of language in his contract? 

I am no lawyer, but if that is something they can do contractually, they would have by now. Either that, or they are not willing to stick their neck out for Harbaugh against the powers that be.

Regardless, it doesn't give me the vibe that Michigan is showing, or will show, Harbaugh the love he wants. And if that's the case, it makes me incredibly sad that this could be the reason he leaves. If he wants to go win a super bowl above all else, cool. Do that. But if he's here saying he loves Michigan and will stay as long as they want him then Michigan doesn't show that love back that is bullshit on the part of the University. Just my opinion, of course. 

Commie_High96

January 13th, 2024 at 11:44 AM ^

Harbaugh provides me with all of the entertainment and disruption and chaos of Trump without the existential dread. 
 

like Harbaugh does the same insane and funny stuff Trump does, and fills tightasses with rage like Trump, but it’s only football, not like, the Supreme Court.

AlbanyBlue

January 13th, 2024 at 12:12 PM ^

Why the hell isn't this a response in the other thread. Your "hypothosis" is ground that's been covered and trampled on.

Thanks for the earworm, though. One of my favorites of the 90s.

Blue_Goose

January 13th, 2024 at 12:30 PM ^

Thought I covered this in the post.  That thread was about Bacon and the majority of posts are rehashing talking heads while at the same time discounting their inside info.  

A few people are listening to what Jim is saying publicly and believing it.  Myself included.  And it isn’t being discussed on the board.  Only the echo chamber typical coaching rhetoric; salary, guaranteed salary, protection against violation etc.  inward focused self preservation items. 

I and others, think Jim is about more than that and I was tired of hearing the same old schtick.  Not many takers in this thread. But it’s all good. The Roxbury gifs redeemed my apparent shit post. 
 

Will see how this post ages once information on the contract negotiations are made more public. 

sdogg1m

January 13th, 2024 at 12:51 PM ^

Seems simple to me, the school needs to put Harbaugh before the NCAA and remove language from his contract that states he can be fired for stuff like BurgerGate.

tybert

January 13th, 2024 at 1:04 PM ^

This can basically be handled quite easily. 

1. Make next year's salary a bit smaller than the remaining years, in case the NCAA or B1G suspends him. His financial hit will be smaller. Make it up in year 2 and 3. 

2. Put it in writing - that any penalties from burgergate or signgate will not be used in any way to discipline him. Only something new and significant MAY be used for disciplinary action.

3. Commit to suing the NCAA or B1G if they overplay their hand (again) on signgate, etc. 

4. Tell him he can groom a coach-in-waiting if he likes. And Santa, not Warde, will have the final say.

Personally, I hope and do think he stays when he reconsiders the egos in the NFL front offices and owner's suite. 

If Warde really is the problem (I'm not sure because I've had very little inside info other than a supposed shouting match a year or two ago), then the easiest way to get him to leave is start taking away some of his duties, at least in theory. Santa has kind of done this already with his statements during the fall supporting JH. I've seen upper managers get irritated when people underneath them go to a higher boss and get things changed/reversed. Santa can also tell Warde he needs to have a plan to fix UM hoops and just get the deal done. 

Derek

January 13th, 2024 at 2:14 PM ^

1. Make next year's salary a bit smaller than the remaining years, in case the NCAA or B1G suspends him. His financial hit will be smaller. Make it up in year 2 and 3. 

I don't think NCAA or B1G suspensions impact his pay, do they? This isn't the NFL.