JMK

January 3rd, 2024 at 4:15 PM ^

I didn't watch the game, but did they lose 14-3 because of their special teams play?  That's kind of how the article reads.  Either that or the special teams coach ran over Ramzy's dog.

Blau

January 3rd, 2024 at 4:15 PM ^

Meyer didn't wait to make necessary changes, because the best program stewards in the sport always operate with urgency.

This sick fascination with Meyer is why OSU is stuck where they are. They simply can’t move on from that douche of an human and allow someone, -anyone-, to create their own legacy. Fact is, Day has made staff overhaul changes, pink-slipped starting players to the portal, and pathetically tried to hype himself through weird “rah-rah” moments just this past year.

Maybe I’m a bastard for saying this but I’m glad they’re having these “look in the mirror” moments because up until 3 years ago, that was basically Michigan football for a very long time.

Vasav

January 3rd, 2024 at 4:53 PM ^

Shipping McCord to the portal and just not being at all prepared is the moment I've stopped the "he's good not great" line. Yes, Cotton Bowl and no MHJ - but THAT was just awful. After they treated their QB like offal.

There's not just one way to win - on the field or in the locker room. Tik tok videos are fine. We have folding chairs for some reason. They don't have to match Michigan, and honestly they shouldn't. They should zig to our zag. But what does Ohio State want to be? For the last 15 years they were the program with the NFL QBs and adapting the cutting edge of CFB offense for the Big Ten. The last 5 they became WRU too. In the NIL era, those are expensive games to play and the portal doesn't leave much margin for error. Either they pay off big - like a FG away from a title game against TCU - or you get the Cotton Bowl. OSU has the money and the resources - they can play that game and get away with it most years. But Georgia and Michigan have found a way to compete without Heisman-level QBs. We'll see how sustainable it is, but it has been better than OSU for 3 years now.

And Ryan Day is not the guy to find a new identity. He was a genius of a type of offense. But he has not figured out Michigan for three years. Harbaugh adapted in year 5 - so maybe I'm wrong about Day. But if he cannot, can he figure out a way to buy enough good will in '24 to make up for the inevitable inconsistencies that will happen with this approach?

But make no mistake, there will be a year where they have Cade at QB and their offense will not be as good as ours in 2021. If Day wins the league before then, he's probably ok. If it happens in '24, he's out.

SouthOfHeaven

January 3rd, 2024 at 4:17 PM ^

This entire article is just fancy slop from a spoiled brat. Boo hoo, three straight eleven win seasons. I feel so bad for them!

Has it ever occurred to them that their program isn't exactly falling apart, but that Michigan has elevated itself? Ryan Day has made the CFP more than Meyer did! The difference between the two is that Meyer never had to face Michigan teams of this caliber. 

I wouldn't read too much into the Cotton Bowl. That team was almost entirely checked out, and Mizzou were no slouches this year. McCord probably would have won that game for them, but they ran him out of town for not being the NFL ROY. 

Their biggest problem isn't any of what this dude wrote. Sure, some of its probably true, but as long as they ignore their cultural issues of arrogance and entitlement, they'll continue to take L's to The Victors. 

MICHIGAN BEAT ALABAMA IN THE ROSE BOWL! There's nothing any of them can say that will change this fact! Hell yeah! 

Ernis

January 3rd, 2024 at 4:41 PM ^

This I agree with. There is a profound lack of self-awareness permeating the OSU fan culture, and I expect that is shared with the football program itself — Day certainly seems to fit the bill. Let them make scapegoats and condemn themselves to sustained mediocrity for generations to come

Wolverine 73

January 3rd, 2024 at 4:17 PM ^

Sssshhh.  We don’t want Day improving the coaching, it seems pretty clear Michigan has had superior coaching the last few years, and that has trumped OSU’s “stars.”  Let’s not mess with that formula.

superstringer

January 3rd, 2024 at 4:19 PM ^

Sucks at recruiting? Wait... *checks profiles of OSU recruits* ... how in the eff can any Bucknut fan complain about recruiting??? Seriously, that is beyond delusional.

Now, failure to develop recruits, that's another matter.

xxxxNateDaGreat

January 3rd, 2024 at 7:11 PM ^

At the time this column was written, Ohio State still employed a shocking number of assistants who don't recruit, cannot recruit, cannot coach adequately - or a combination of all three.

Yeah, recruiting is really a sore spot for An Ohio State University.

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Man, eleven warriors staff writing really went down the shitter since they hired Urban, huh...

lhglrkwg

January 3rd, 2024 at 4:20 PM ^

Big culture differences between Ann Arbor and Columbus right now. OSU looks and plays like a bunch of mercenaries. They all look miserable and I didn't see any of them play with much enthusiasm a few weeks ago. While the W/L records might be similar, these programs are in very different places

Hensons Mobile…

January 3rd, 2024 at 4:20 PM ^

Alabama is probably going to go through a similar kind of meltdown someday soon.

He's complaining about recruiting but OSU is always top 5 or whatever.

I'm also confused because I thought their viewpoint was Ryan Day was still undefeated against Michigan because the last three years don't count. So really he's only lost, what, three games or something? So one meaningless bowl game with a dominant defensive performance means the sky is falling? I'm honestly confused. Lose a meaningless bowl game with a third string QB means fire everybody?

Amazinblu

January 3rd, 2024 at 4:51 PM ^

A small point of clarification.   Complaining about recruiting?    The Buckeyes have had one of top three rosters in eight of the last nine years (according to 247).

Think about that - eight of nine seasons - a top three or better roster of talent - the one season they weren't top three, they were fifth.

They've got plenty of talent - as others have noted - they lack character and culture.   But, damn - they are driving around Coluxbus in some very sweet wheels - and, have some awesome shoes.

Amazinblu

January 3rd, 2024 at 4:58 PM ^

If Saban did decide to retire - who would Bama go after?    Who would you go after if you were Bama's AD?

I think Dan Lanning has to be pretty high on that list - as would be DeBoer.   Dabo doesn't have quite the luster he did a few years ago.  There's no way Smart leaves what he's built at Georgia - is there?

Ernis

January 3rd, 2024 at 7:12 PM ^

Do they really, deep down, think the last three years don’t count? I doubt it. They still feel the sting.

We would have greater justification in discounting the entire Tressel era, but is anyone making that case? No sir. We’re not deranged. We lived to see it. Even if we make the excuse, it doesn’t take away the memory.

MMBbones

January 3rd, 2024 at 4:22 PM ^

Ha! I was just going to post this, and I feared I would get negbanged for posting it this week. In fact, I was considering negging myself if I did break down and post it. I was going to say, similarly to you:

Very well written. The old adage: "That's typing, not writing" doesn't apply. Whoever the guy is, he writes well.

But I wanted to add:  Even in our darkest days, Brian and staff never wrote something this negative about M. Wow. Woof. 

They BPONE at least as well as we do. Perhaps better.

pdgoblue25

January 3rd, 2024 at 4:23 PM ^

Holy shit, I'm going to pour a neat bourbon tonight and read this 15 more times.

This is reminiscent of all of us knowing Don Brown's scheme had been figured out and that he needed to move on, or Drevno's o-line development.

Ernis

January 3rd, 2024 at 7:18 PM ^

The fact that they have a fan base, which is really a statewide cult, trying to remove all use of the letter M in the English language, has a song trashing the entire state of their sports rival — dissing the lives of about 10M people and a stunningly beautiful, culture-rich place — and refer to M as TTUN or TCUN, etc etc etc 

and none of this prompts the realization that they are deeply unwell. It’s losing a couple football games that does. Yikes on a bike.

BlueLikeJazz

January 3rd, 2024 at 4:42 PM ^

That was pleasant to read, but 2 things stuck out:

1-We are truly spoiled by the quality of writing on this blog. That was decently written, apart from him repeating the same thoughts over and over. Dude needs an editor.

2-in discussing Meyer’s emotional/poor coaching hires, he conveniently neglected to mention Zach Smith 🙄

UM Indy

January 3rd, 2024 at 4:48 PM ^

Their delusions and rationalizations are amazing.  "NCAA will vacate wins!"  "Cheaters that are cheating!"  "They haven't faced an offense as good as Washington!"  This last one said perhaps without realizing that this shits on their own offense, which before The Game they certainly expected to light us up.  Their world is falling apart and they truly don't know how to deal.

There is at least one sane Bucknut commenter on there who said: "Everyone needs to stop caring so damn much what Michigan is doing.  You all just create endless fodder and entertainment for their fanbase as they revel in our unhinging.  It's pathetic." 

Unhinging.  I like that word.