OT: Travis Kelce shoving Andy Reid: acceptable or unacceptable?
Question for the board: I got into a discussion with someone about that moment in the first quarter when Travis Kelce yelled at Andy Reid and shoved him. The person, who claims to have worked in the NFL for 25 years but is a woman so not in a coaching or playing capacity, said those types of things are accepted in the NFL. I disagreed and said if they have that kind of relationship, it's best kept in the locker room because it's a bad look. And if it was so acceptable, why doesn't it happen more often? Football is a game of aggression and tempers flare all the time.
I'm curious what people here think.
February 12th, 2024 at 5:37 PM ^
Isn't Reid already married?
(sorry)
February 12th, 2024 at 5:32 PM ^
Never ok
February 12th, 2024 at 5:33 PM ^
I'm not sure that even qualified as a shove. He wanted to get Reid's attention, bumped him, and wasn't trying to hurt him at all. And Reid laughed about it. It's nothing...A fair enough discussion topic, though.
February 12th, 2024 at 5:33 PM ^
You simply never touch a coach, much less bump or push. Not really even a question or debate. He acted like a maniac. Dude needs to grow up and get a handle on his emotions.
Also tired of all things Kelce.
February 12th, 2024 at 8:59 PM ^
Agreed. He looks like a petulant child throwing a tantrum. On top of that, to make physical contact while you’re screaming at your coach is unacceptable. Kelce has one job, to block, run routes, and catch the ball. Literally only has to worry about himself. Reid has to run the entire team. The fact that Kelce is 6’5” 250 lbs and he is even bumping his 65 year old head coach in this manner is ridiculous. Sure they both ended up laughing it off, and I’m sure they really do like eachother. Even so, this was a massive sign of disrespect and a poor example to be setting. It’s not the first time this season Kelce’s sideline behavior was ridiculous. Call it bad judgment, heat of the moment, whatever. Those are excuses not justifications and it would go a long way for a guy like Kelce to admit his behavior was poor.
February 13th, 2024 at 7:03 AM ^
"Kelce has one job"
1. block
2. run routes
3. catch the ball
February 13th, 2024 at 8:27 AM ^
Forget it, he's rolling.
February 13th, 2024 at 11:57 AM ^
If Coach Reid had a problem with it, he should have sat him. Otherwise, that's none of our business.
February 12th, 2024 at 5:33 PM ^
It was no big deal. The only reason anyone is making it that big of deal is their hatred of K.C. It didn't even look like a real shove. It looked like he was trying to grab his arm to get his attention. Can't believe anyone is making a big deal about that.
February 12th, 2024 at 9:05 PM ^
looked like he was trying to grab his arm to get his attention
Ah, of course. The 6’5” guy screaming and spitting in your face 3 inches away went unnoticed so Kelce had to grab his arm to let Reid know he was talking to him.
February 13th, 2024 at 7:13 AM ^
1. Remove your blind hatred from the equation
2. Google NFL noise canceling headsets
February 12th, 2024 at 5:37 PM ^
WHERE ARE MY NUGGIES ????
February 13th, 2024 at 8:12 AM ^
You win, I'm dead lol.
February 12th, 2024 at 5:39 PM ^
Unacceptable. Should have been sent to the locker room but that was never going to happen in the Super Bowl.
According to Reid this isn’t the first time Travis has had a meltdown.
Travis seems like a good dude, but seems and is are two different things.
February 12th, 2024 at 6:12 PM ^
According to Reid this isn’t the first time Travis has had a meltdown.
That does not bode well for his future relationship with somebody that, while rich and famous, is a whole lot smaller than him.
February 12th, 2024 at 7:09 PM ^
and is bi-polar.
when it's good, it'll be off the charts. but when it goes baaaaad.....look out!
February 12th, 2024 at 7:50 PM ^
Can confirm, although Mrs. Hatter prefers the more traditional term "crazy".
February 12th, 2024 at 8:09 PM ^
Bipolar? Hey. As long as neither one stops their meds and then picks up a tire iron and uses it to gain entry into the other's home. 😉
February 12th, 2024 at 8:32 PM ^
well, she didn't gain 'entry' with it, not technically. it was after i threw her out of my place that she then threw the tire iron through the front window. but then she drove off. God love her, wherever she is, i wish her the best.
February 12th, 2024 at 9:02 PM ^
Nice! Mine, however, did violate a court order, did force entry after much glass was broken, did remove various items to which she had no rights, did back a gem of a rival female into a corner, and then did drive off with very many goods. I wish mine to remain faaaaaaaar away. 😉
Note: her attorney contacted me several years later and demanded I pay his bill (she had refused). I laughed and wished him "good luck".
February 12th, 2024 at 9:13 PM ^
Sounds like the makings of a Hit song.
February 13th, 2024 at 8:28 AM ^
Isn't he just paraphrasing a Taylor Swift song?
February 12th, 2024 at 8:32 PM ^
I think Sal is taking it more than a little out of context. Yes, Reid said that, sort of, but it was prior to the Superbowl. I don't even think it was this season. They were talking about how Kelce had got his temper under control in his ten years with Reid at KC.
So, he did kind of say that. Just not how Sal is representing it. Unless there's a recent quote that I missed, which is possible.
Got a link, Salvatore?
That said, I don't like Kelce. I think it was unacceptable, heat of the moment or no. That was a childish outburst, on national tv, during the damn Superbowl. Can't do that. Reid played it off as you would expect him to, but I do wonder how he truly feels about it, and what if anything else was said privately, after.
February 12th, 2024 at 8:35 PM ^
i did read something today from reid last night, basically sounding 'okay' with it and praising kelce, with kelce praising reid for helping through his temper issues over the years. that said, it was not 'okay', but you aren't stopping the super bowl to continue that argument.
and of course, winning solves a lot of problems.
February 12th, 2024 at 9:03 PM ^
Just this season Kelce threw a tantrum and threw his helmet. Reid told the equipment guy not to give him his helmet back. This isn’t isolated. Kelce is an ass.
February 13th, 2024 at 7:27 AM ^
I don't disagree, but that isn't what I was responding to.
February 13th, 2024 at 7:57 AM ^
I'm sure you had the same reaction when Tom Brady smashed up a tablet on the sideline??
February 13th, 2024 at 8:01 AM ^
smashing tablet is not anywhere near the same realm as a 6'5" 250lb dude slamming into an unsuspecting and rather rotund 65 yr old, and then screaming in his grill.
February 13th, 2024 at 8:17 AM ^
But it IS similar to throwing ones helmet, which was what I was responding to.
Also, "slamming" into Reid or accidentally bumping him as he was trying to grab his arm?
February 13th, 2024 at 8:31 AM ^
Sorry, but did you forget all the lessons of Tunnelgate? A helmet is a deadly weapon. A tablet is...not.
February 13th, 2024 at 8:55 AM ^
Slamming a helmet on the ground is not the same as trying to bash someone's head in with said helmet.
February 13th, 2024 at 8:41 AM ^
point taken re: helmet
however, one of the finest athletes on planet earth knows how to not 'bump' into a stationary 65 yr old who is looking in another direction.
February 12th, 2024 at 9:03 PM ^
Or he could be a different person when he's on the field than when he's off.
February 12th, 2024 at 5:39 PM ^
If it wasn't the Super Bowl and if they didn't end up winning it would have been deemed unacceptable and some sort of punishment would have ensued.
But in the bigger picture, no way that's acceptable in any profession.
February 12th, 2024 at 5:45 PM ^
It’s a non event. Who cares.
February 12th, 2024 at 5:46 PM ^
Mountain out of a molehill.
February 12th, 2024 at 5:48 PM ^
It's a small part of the PSYOP. See, by showing disrespect to a traditional authority figure, Kelce is aligning himself with the bad team.
February 12th, 2024 at 5:49 PM ^
How is this even a question? Of course it was inappropriate. It was the kind of drunken frat boy behavior that the Kelces have become known for. Sick of that whole family.
February 12th, 2024 at 5:50 PM ^
It was bullshit. Kelce is a piece of crap. Time will reveal his real persona.
February 12th, 2024 at 5:54 PM ^
I honestly forgot it happened seconds after I saw it.
It's a bad look but whatever.
February 12th, 2024 at 5:55 PM ^
I don't think anyone here is gonna argue that it was a good thing. But the word you're using is important: acceptable.
To answer that question, it requires context. In the middle of the Super Bowl, after a tough turnover on a play Kelce felt he should've been in on...the answer is yeah, it's acceptable. Doesn't mean it's good, but you give stars like Kelce a certain amount of latitude for stuff like this, especially when it wasn't malicious.
Good? No. Acceptable, as in "able to be accepted without further consequences given the situation"? Yeah.
February 12th, 2024 at 5:57 PM ^
I think it’s up to Andy Reid and Kelce to determine if it’s acceptable. No one here commenting “totally unacceptable” knows their relationship and what’s ok or not for them
February 12th, 2024 at 6:18 PM ^
This. Sometimes men hit each other. It didn't used to be a big deal at all.
February 12th, 2024 at 8:19 PM ^
I prefer to use the open-handed slap. It just seems more disrespectful to the person on the receiving end.
February 12th, 2024 at 9:04 PM ^
Using your riding gloves of course.
February 12th, 2024 at 8:27 PM ^
I hear you but that doesn’t mean it’s right or should be done. I get the man’s man toughness thing and served through 2 deployments. Doesn’t mean it’s the right way to be living.
February 12th, 2024 at 6:00 PM ^
Not acceptable. We all know that had it been other people in Kelce's place, people would be calling for their head on a silver platter. It's okay for him because he's Taylor Swift's boyfriend.
I don't care about "heat of the moment of the game." He wasn't the only player in the midst of emotion but we don't see them having toddler meltdowns.
The sooner the Chiefs and Kelce become irrelevant, the better.
February 12th, 2024 at 6:30 PM ^
Unless Mahomes hits the transfer portal, it's going to be a long wait.
February 12th, 2024 at 9:19 PM ^
If it was a no name player we won’t be talking about it at all