Nycholes Harbor article from South Carolina recruiting website
There’s some cool insight in here about what position he wants to play in college and what school his mom wants him to go to
December 29th, 2022 at 10:11 PM ^
Spoiler: mom wants him to go to Michigan. Says if a school can flip her, he will go to that school.
Hope mom has some deep Michigan ties.
December 29th, 2022 at 10:31 PM ^
I won't be fooled again by this mom likes Michigan business. I see you, DTR.
December 29th, 2022 at 11:54 PM ^
Malik McDowell too
December 30th, 2022 at 9:13 AM ^
There are only two types of TE's in CFB. Michigan TE's, and TE's who have the most important catch of their lives broken up my Mike Sainristil. Choose wisely young man.
December 30th, 2022 at 7:14 PM ^
Damien Harris's mom says hello.
December 30th, 2022 at 7:33 PM ^
You can add Draymond Green’s mom to this list too. Thank God he didn’t go here.
December 29th, 2022 at 11:07 PM ^
He would go to Michigan if we had a top track program. Seems like a Michigan vs Oregon battle at this point. Michigan would need to hire a top track coach. Mom will probably give in.
December 30th, 2022 at 2:02 AM ^
Unpopular opinion: I never get this multi-sport thing that influences what colleges that great football recruits choose. Most of these guys never end up playing a second sport, and if they do, it’s not for long. As soon as they put on weight and muscle for football, they realize they can’t meaningfully compete in the other sport. Nor do they have the time I’d guess. Football is where they are going to make their money, but they still go ahead and pick a college for the wrong reason. It’s like picking Alabama because they are also interested in engineering. 🙄
And no doubt the head football coach leads them to believe they’re really going to support them playing in another sport besides football, when they know it’s not really going to happen. But they don’t care, they just want their commitment to the football team.
December 30th, 2022 at 2:55 AM ^
I think Denard ran track at Michigan.
December 30th, 2022 at 9:45 AM ^
For 1 season, I believe.
December 30th, 2022 at 6:55 AM ^
Jahvid Best
Marvin Bracy
Devon Allen
Jeff Demps
Marquise Goodwin
That is 5 guys good enough to make the Olympics and the NFL, in just the last few Olympics.
December 30th, 2022 at 7:47 AM ^
Joey Velazqueze (sp?) is currently playing a decent role on Michigan's baseball team and starting to get some PT on the football field. Two-sport athletes are a thing...
December 30th, 2022 at 11:58 AM ^
The big difference is that this kid is the real deal as a track and field prospect. He's not an elite football prospect who is "pretty good" at track. He is a truly elite track prospect.
His times as a HS runner are very close to the school records at Michigan and would have placed him close to the top ten in the NCAA Championships last year. As a freshman, this kid could very easily break both the 100m and 200m record at Michigan. To be honest, he could easily break both of them this spring as a HS senior.
While on one hand it sounds neat to be able to write your name in the record books, on the other hand he might want to go to a program that is used to training sprinters at his level.
December 30th, 2022 at 6:27 AM ^
"That's her home," Harbor said. "She's always pro Michigan. Michigan this, Michigan that. But if another college could change her mind on Michigan, flip her, then they are probably going to get me. That's probably the biggest recruiting piece to me saga. Probably here.
That quote makes you think that it's a Michigan vs Oregon battle? Seems pretty clear Michigan is out. His heart isn't there.
December 30th, 2022 at 7:14 AM ^
^^^ This ^^^
He doesn't seem to be greatly interested in Michigan.
December 30th, 2022 at 7:50 AM ^
He says if Mom is okay with another school, he'll go to that school. That tells me that he - personally - doesn't want Michigan. Having been the son of a mother tells me that it's probably not going to be too hard to convince mom it's okay to go somewhere else - because she loves and trusts her son.
My opinion - even if he comes here, his heart won't be 100% all in. He'll be a constant portal watch...
December 30th, 2022 at 12:46 AM ^
Mom wanting him go to Michigan is the kiss of death. I have two teenagers. Whenever I want them to do something, they want to do the exact opposite. Even when it’s obvious that my preference is the right choice. I’m sure other parents of teenagers can relate.
December 30th, 2022 at 1:22 AM ^
Sometimes I tell them the opposite of what I want.
December 30th, 2022 at 7:01 AM ^
I’ve done the same but you can only go to that well so often because they catch on to it pretty quickly.
December 30th, 2022 at 1:35 AM ^
Depends on the child.
I have three daughters, one thinks she knows what I want (hint she’s often wrong), so she chooses what she thinks is the opposite.
Second could care less.
Third has me wrapped around her finger so I want what she wants.
Go figure.
December 30th, 2022 at 2:06 AM ^
Soooo.... You have a favorite?
December 30th, 2022 at 3:49 AM ^
I'm sure most people love all their kids, but we all have our favorites. Some cultures embrace that, but so many pretend to "like" each of their kids the same for whatever egalitarian reason.
December 30th, 2022 at 11:44 AM ^
I'll have you know that I dislike all of my kids equally.
December 30th, 2022 at 4:41 AM ^
Found the guy that doesn’t have kids. Of course parents have favorites.
December 30th, 2022 at 6:25 AM ^
Ahh so we found the happy guy!
December 30th, 2022 at 7:28 AM ^
Mine is the same except switch daughters one and three because the middle daughter is often like who cares what they think about me!!! Headstrong and capable, sometimes lazy, but very intelligent. It's only good if you use it.
GO BLUE
December 30th, 2022 at 9:54 AM ^
Not necessarily the kiss of death. Sometimes the opposite. Remember a few years back that DT from Texas? It may have been Jordan Elliott. He wanted to come here but mom brow beat him to stay home to UT.
December 30th, 2022 at 1:48 PM ^
Isn’t he the guy who decomitted from 3 or 4 different schools during his recruitment? Then he transferred from Texas to Mizzou after his Freshman year. He made first team all SEC and got drafted by the Browns so it turned out pretty well for him after all.
December 29th, 2022 at 10:13 PM ^
I have lower hopes for harbor and Davis by the week. Just feels like these recruitments just couldn't get to the finish line.. Hope I'm wrong
December 29th, 2022 at 10:20 PM ^
There are two schools that worry me with Davis and they are both kind of desperate right now, Ohio St and Clemson. Clemson bad Klubnik but he will be a junior Davis first season and possible to go pro after that. Ohio St lost Raiola and will be searching for a replacement and who better to screw over than Michigan. I guess I should have spelled it de$perate when referring to those teams. I don’t like how he keeps pushing his decision back, he should be committing and recruiting already.
December 29th, 2022 at 10:38 PM ^
Agreed.. Feels like Davis wants that money. Based on nothing at all
December 30th, 2022 at 12:14 AM ^
I read the same with Davis. Feels like a girl saying,"Don't you want to get married?" And the guy is saying, "Sure, I just want to wait a little while." Translation: He's looking around for something better.
December 30th, 2022 at 2:23 PM ^
This logic makes no sense. A recruit doesn’t commit on your time frame so he must want to go somewhere else? By that logic, doesn’t he also not want to be at any of the other schools recruiting him? I mean, he’d commit already if he did…
December 30th, 2022 at 12:18 AM ^
"he wants that money based on nothing at all". LOL.
December 30th, 2022 at 10:27 AM ^
I hate the dollar sign digs. NIL is real and legitimate.
If a kid has several good options, why shouldn't money be a significant factor in his final decision? Money is important.
And there's a difference between getting paid and becoming an Aggie Mercenary. Just like there's a difference between being ethical NIL and sitting on your hands out of principal.
December 29th, 2022 at 11:46 PM ^
I am not sure about Harbor as a football player. Obviously talented, but what position does he play?
Michigan QB recruiting has been atrocious. They simply have to land a top tier QB recruit this class. MSU got a four star in ‘23. How the hell has UM not gotten one?
December 30th, 2022 at 1:23 AM ^
He wants to be a tight end
December 30th, 2022 at 4:44 AM ^
I’d imagine because the best high school QBs want to go to schools that throw the ball more often. It sounds like if Ryan Day had wanted McCarthy he’d probably be there instead of Michigan. I’ve heard McCarthy mention that after he’d been recruited by Meyer, Day took over and decided to go “in another direction” at QB.
December 30th, 2022 at 6:14 AM ^
Signing a highly rated QB out of HS is not as important as it was before the portal. It seems that ever year there is a highly rated QB that signed with USC in the portal, e.g., Jaxson Dart, Kedon Slovis, JT Daniels - and those are the ones that started in their freshmen years. Jalen Hurts and Spencer Rattler are two more that entered the portal after losing QB competitions. Don't be surprised if the loser of the QB competition at Texas, Quinn Ewers or Arch Manning is in the portal in a year from now.
December 30th, 2022 at 7:30 AM ^
No thank you on King Mullet!
December 29th, 2022 at 10:17 PM ^
He seems to like Oregon a lot.
December 29th, 2022 at 10:21 PM ^
That one is new and he basically said they are the best combination of track and football, which is exactly what he’s looking for. He says he will decide before he announces in February and visits Oregon late January.
December 30th, 2022 at 4:46 AM ^
Which is too bad because although the kid is very fast for his size, he doesn’t have NCAA-level elite sprinter speed, and that isn’t going to get any better as he gets bigger for football.
December 30th, 2022 at 7:01 AM ^
His best 100m time last year would have been #17 in the entire NCAA.
I doubt he's ever Olympics fast, but he'll be a very good NCAA sprinter.
December 30th, 2022 at 10:48 AM ^
Tyson Gay went 10.46 in HS, Marvin Bracy ran 10.19, Justin Gatlin 10.36, Trayvon Bromell routinely went 10.3-10.4 range, Ronnie Baker was still running 10.3-10.5 his freshman year of college, and Fred Kerley's best time was a full second+ slower than Harbor's 200 in high school (he didn't really run the 100 in high school, was more long sprints).
Harbor already ran a 10.22 with a season left in high school. Sure, he could never cut the necessary .2 seconds needed to run sub 10, which is what it usually takes to make the US team... But these guys were all in his range in high school. His high school coach also, for what it's worth I believe said she'd be shocked if he doesn't run low 10/break 10.
December 30th, 2022 at 9:00 AM ^
With the bags Oregon has been dropping lately and their combination of track and football, I think it could be hard to beat them when he visits. Looks like my Josh Conerly analogy could turn out to be way too accurate lol
December 29th, 2022 at 10:20 PM ^
Sounds like he doesn't want to be at Michigan. But there's seems to be reasons to remain optimistic about Davis. Remember that while Harbor is 23, Davis is 24.
December 29th, 2022 at 10:22 PM ^
His mom will eventually come around to what she knows is in his heart. And his heart is not in Michigan just by him saying that. It’s clear he’s torn bc he doesn’t wanna let his mom down. Harbor and Davis are not coming to Michigan. That’s been clear by every day that passes by, especially with “JD comin”..
December 29th, 2022 at 10:30 PM ^
wake me up when he announces.
December 29th, 2022 at 10:31 PM ^
Mother always knows best