The term "natural born citizen" is used in the Constitution but it is not defined there. Case law is thin and generally indirect. The question has never been directly addressed by the Supreme Court and challenges to eligibility under this clause have generally been tossed by lower courts due to the claimant's lack of standing.
Discussions at the Constitutional convention do not provide evidence of the precise definition of the term. Historically at the time of the Constituion's writing use of "natural born" was sometimes but not always used to mean born on the soil of the nation/kingdom in question. It is reasonable to guess that is what the term may have been intended to mean. It is also reasonable to guess it means "citizen at birth".
Beyond those born to citizen parents but on foreign soil, there are additional issues around those born on US soil to diplomats or other representatives of foreign governments. There is some consensus on these issues and it does seem to tend towards "citizen at birth" but by no means is this issue resolved and it is not unreasonable to hold to the "born in US soil" interpretation. I do not prefer this interpretation, but it is reasonable.
Part of the issue, whether Jordan, Rose or Ohtani, is that if you are the kind of person who is obsessively competitive and are focusing that obsession on gambling, then you are very likely to eventually go outside of the guardrails and cross a line, threatening the integrity of the game. Additionally, even before you cross that line, approaching it can give the appearance of you going out of bounds. This threatens the perception of the integrity of the game, which is also a major problem. Perception becomes reality when fans determine how to spend their time and money.
The rules have historically been crafted to put the line far enough away from it being a problem to make enforcement easy and to maintain the perception of integrity. In the past couple of decades, the rules have moved closer to the line.
Is it possible to safely stand on the rim of the Grand Canyon? Sure, but if you're standing there, people are going to wonder why, possibly think you're crazy and if the wind picks up or rock/soil falls away....
Transfer rule changes didn’t completely change eligibility requirements. You still have to progress towards a degree to be eligible. If after two years you only have 40 random credits, you aren’t playing.
I admittedly stopped watching weeks ago, but when I did watch, I liked what I saw from Nkamhoua. I wish him well in his recovery and will be rooting for him.
I'm guessing he got significant NIL bag to share what he knows about Michigan's play signals. I am also guessing that this is completely fine as far as the NCAA is concerned.
I like the general concept of changing the FG rules as opposed to eliminating them. FGs should be worth 2-4 points; less points for short, easy FGs and more points for longer FGs and/or a more difficult target (like the center concept mentioned).
I concur with the general sentiment that the trajectory for college football is downward. There is very, very little hope that the trajectory will change. I expect college football to be a shell of itself in a few years.
NCAA FBS Football tracks AAA baseball in that it is a combination of a few future big league stars mixed with a bunch of guys who will be happy to get a cup of coffee and even more guys who will never make it. Of course AAA baseball is a second or third tier spectator sport. I am not saying the quality is terrible or that people shouldn't watch, just that not that many do and the revenues it generates are quite modest. NCAA FBS Football has done much a better as a spectator sport and revenue generator due to the deep ttradition, the facade of "amateur scholar-athletes" and the passion of alumni and fans. With 18 team (and growing) conferences and other changes, the tradition is being hammered. Huge TV contracts, bloated AD staff, players switching schools constantly and all of the NIL money starting to slosh around, the facade of amateurism has been smashed. That brings us to fan/alumni passion, which is really the topic here. The loss of tradition and the reality that the players really are minor league players is dousing the flames of fan passion rather quickly.
In this view, college football looks destined to fall from its lofty peak and become nothing more than a minor league. Add in the general demographic headwinds that football has (a mostly older audience) and it's hard to see this not occurring. The counterpoint is that college baseball does exist. In some parts of the country it is quite well received. It doesn't generate the revenues of football, but it does have passionate fans and does a good job of keeping the college feel.
Where does it end? I lean pessimistic and am very happy that this era ended on a high note for Michigan.
When you’re passing 50x per game as a QB, you are the offense.
When you pass <25, you’re leaning heavily on a running game and passing is a change-up.
I’m not saying JJ can’t carry the weight of a pass heavy NFL style attack, but I am saying he’s never done it. I am also saying that throwing 50 passes over 3 games is simply not the same thing as throwing 50 passes in a single game.
It’s not just sample size, it’s situational. Think about a baseball pitcher throwing a slider100x in a game versus the same pitcher throwing 100 sliders over 3 games. I’m guess his batting average against the slider in those two scenarios would be very different.
That’s not a perfect analogy, but you should get what I am saying.
I think JJ will have at least a good and possibly a great NFL career. That being said, I can see some having doubts.
I don't have a fully formed opinion on Shaw as OC, but if did take the job it would clearly be a 1-2 year deal. If he's not getting the job offers he wants, sitting around doing nothing for another year doesn't help him change that. While OC at Michigan is obviously not an NFL job, it is a high profile way to keep your skills honed and show you're still relevant.
I was going to say “What about Army” but you beat me to it.
Then you get cases like Minnesota who fall well short on the conference titles (only 18) but have 7 national titles.
I’d look at winning percentage, both total and years above a threshold as possible good filters. That would weed out those FBS schools that were good for a few decades 50 years ago.
Only 6 schools have a winning percentage above .700. They are M, ND, TX, AL, OSU, OK
I think the "right" NFL job is and maybe has been Plan A. The question is how "right" is defined. If Coach Harbaugh's definition is highly selective and narrow, I am ok with that. He came really close to winning a Super Bowl. Now that he's won at Michigan, I can imagine the draw of taking another crack at a Super Bowl win being very strong.
That being said, I also buy the narrative that Coach Harbaugh highly values relationships. If Michigan offers him the best relationship, I think he might choose that over even a very good NFL offer.
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I generally agree, but Kelser’s knee issues are also part of his story.
Let me put your mind back together...
The term "natural born citizen" is used in the Constitution but it is not defined there. Case law is thin and generally indirect. The question has never been directly addressed by the Supreme Court and challenges to eligibility under this clause have generally been tossed by lower courts due to the claimant's lack of standing.
Discussions at the Constitutional convention do not provide evidence of the precise definition of the term. Historically at the time of the Constituion's writing use of "natural born" was sometimes but not always used to mean born on the soil of the nation/kingdom in question. It is reasonable to guess that is what the term may have been intended to mean. It is also reasonable to guess it means "citizen at birth".
Beyond those born to citizen parents but on foreign soil, there are additional issues around those born on US soil to diplomats or other representatives of foreign governments. There is some consensus on these issues and it does seem to tend towards "citizen at birth" but by no means is this issue resolved and it is not unreasonable to hold to the "born in US soil" interpretation. I do not prefer this interpretation, but it is reasonable.
Interesting. That means there is a 0.000000000001210318848 chance that we get all of those players.
Love the show, like Harbaugh even more.
Congratulations to DeShawn!
10.42 is serious for ~16 years old. He's very close to the state record in Ohio.
The time has come for each and everyone of you to decide....
Hopefully you make it past 70 so your account ends up in the black!
Part of the issue, whether Jordan, Rose or Ohtani, is that if you are the kind of person who is obsessively competitive and are focusing that obsession on gambling, then you are very likely to eventually go outside of the guardrails and cross a line, threatening the integrity of the game. Additionally, even before you cross that line, approaching it can give the appearance of you going out of bounds. This threatens the perception of the integrity of the game, which is also a major problem. Perception becomes reality when fans determine how to spend their time and money.
The rules have historically been crafted to put the line far enough away from it being a problem to make enforcement easy and to maintain the perception of integrity. In the past couple of decades, the rules have moved closer to the line.
Is it possible to safely stand on the rim of the Grand Canyon? Sure, but if you're standing there, people are going to wonder why, possibly think you're crazy and if the wind picks up or rock/soil falls away....
Depending upon on diet, it could be the hole o' flame
Transfer rule changes didn’t completely change eligibility requirements. You still have to progress towards a degree to be eligible. If after two years you only have 40 random credits, you aren’t playing.
Can he play basketball? We need those kind of guys, too.
Wilipedia is a reasonable place to start research and is solid for high profile pages. Move to the lower profile entries and quality erodes.
Stuff I made up and put on Wikipedia literally 20 years ago is still up. There are a few tricks, but you can definitely game it and/or put noise up.
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He’s not going to Rutgers.
I guess this means we’ll have to change our signs for hoops next season. Underwood will do anything for an advantage.
Russ is a big cap hit, but less tha Matt Ryan and it will be years before the Browns can cut Watson and get a smaller cap hit.
"I’m not really a donut guy..."
You should be ashamed; deeply ashamed.
David Terrell is the correct answer
This won't be the last time a Wolverine runs all over Oregon like he owns the place.
That's funny in so many Mo Ways than I can count....
I admittedly stopped watching weeks ago, but when I did watch, I liked what I saw from Nkamhoua. I wish him well in his recovery and will be rooting for him.
Seeing as we will be National Champions for the entire offseason, I feel pretty good about it!
That 5K time equates to sub 4:20 miles.
That mile time is only slightly slower than the pace I ran....for 800m....30+ years ago :(
I'm guessing he got significant NIL bag to share what he knows about Michigan's play signals. I am also guessing that this is completely fine as far as the NCAA is concerned.
I like the general concept of changing the FG rules as opposed to eliminating them. FGs should be worth 2-4 points; less points for short, easy FGs and more points for longer FGs and/or a more difficult target (like the center concept mentioned).
Obligatory....
I would have asked "Do you want one kidney or two?"
The past is a warm and happy place.
I predict many of you young whipper snappers will understand what I mean once the afterglow of this year's title wears off.
For the record, 1989 was a very good year. Rose Bowl win, hoops national championship and the Pistons won the NBA championship. Don't bag on 1989!
I concur with the general sentiment that the trajectory for college football is downward. There is very, very little hope that the trajectory will change. I expect college football to be a shell of itself in a few years.
NCAA FBS Football tracks AAA baseball in that it is a combination of a few future big league stars mixed with a bunch of guys who will be happy to get a cup of coffee and even more guys who will never make it. Of course AAA baseball is a second or third tier spectator sport. I am not saying the quality is terrible or that people shouldn't watch, just that not that many do and the revenues it generates are quite modest. NCAA FBS Football has done much a better as a spectator sport and revenue generator due to the deep ttradition, the facade of "amateur scholar-athletes" and the passion of alumni and fans. With 18 team (and growing) conferences and other changes, the tradition is being hammered. Huge TV contracts, bloated AD staff, players switching schools constantly and all of the NIL money starting to slosh around, the facade of amateurism has been smashed. That brings us to fan/alumni passion, which is really the topic here. The loss of tradition and the reality that the players really are minor league players is dousing the flames of fan passion rather quickly.
In this view, college football looks destined to fall from its lofty peak and become nothing more than a minor league. Add in the general demographic headwinds that football has (a mostly older audience) and it's hard to see this not occurring. The counterpoint is that college baseball does exist. In some parts of the country it is quite well received. It doesn't generate the revenues of football, but it does have passionate fans and does a good job of keeping the college feel.
Where does it end? I lean pessimistic and am very happy that this era ended on a high note for Michigan.
When you’re passing 50x per game as a QB, you are the offense.
When you pass <25, you’re leaning heavily on a running game and passing is a change-up.
I’m not saying JJ can’t carry the weight of a pass heavy NFL style attack, but I am saying he’s never done it. I am also saying that throwing 50 passes over 3 games is simply not the same thing as throwing 50 passes in a single game.
It’s not just sample size, it’s situational. Think about a baseball pitcher throwing a slider100x in a game versus the same pitcher throwing 100 sliders over 3 games. I’m guess his batting average against the slider in those two scenarios would be very different.
That’s not a perfect analogy, but you should get what I am saying.
I think JJ will have at least a good and possibly a great NFL career. That being said, I can see some having doubts.
I don't have a fully formed opinion on Shaw as OC, but if did take the job it would clearly be a 1-2 year deal. If he's not getting the job offers he wants, sitting around doing nothing for another year doesn't help him change that. While OC at Michigan is obviously not an NFL job, it is a high profile way to keep your skills honed and show you're still relevant.
Bob the goose Gagliano
In the butt….
I have no idea what you're Sayin.
I was going to say “What about Army” but you beat me to it.
Then you get cases like Minnesota who fall well short on the conference titles (only 18) but have 7 national titles.
I’d look at winning percentage, both total and years above a threshold as possible good filters. That would weed out those FBS schools that were good for a few decades 50 years ago.
Only 6 schools have a winning percentage above .700. They are M, ND, TX, AL, OSU, OK
I think the "right" NFL job is and maybe has been Plan A. The question is how "right" is defined. If Coach Harbaugh's definition is highly selective and narrow, I am ok with that. He came really close to winning a Super Bowl. Now that he's won at Michigan, I can imagine the draw of taking another crack at a Super Bowl win being very strong.
That being said, I also buy the narrative that Coach Harbaugh highly values relationships. If Michigan offers him the best relationship, I think he might choose that over even a very good NFL offer.
You don't have to live in DC and team plays in Maryland (for now?).
I really hope he got paid to wear that.
Woodson had several iconic INTs and catches. My pick would be the one vs. MSU.
Since he says "...other former coaches" he might be referring to Hoke when he says "Brady".
Great tasting fun when you punch open one…Capri Sun!
He was a Cowboy.
Actually, he Heard it from a friend who Heard it from a friend who Heard it from another.
...or just wins more period. Chip is .500 in his tenure at UCLA. No one is paying attention to him these days.
I’ve already used this. You can never have too many jokes in the inventory around Christmas.
Thanks!
I'd love to see a "Where are they now" segment on her.
See also: Jim Harbaugh
Didn't someone at Alabama just get arrested for this?
If I knew I could make so much money being a drunk, I might have tried it.