Michigan Still One of the Last Two B1G Teams to Win the NCAA
The Big Ten's futility in the Final Four is nothing short of amazing. Still the last two teams to win the NCAA championship as members of the Big Ten are Michigan State in 2000 and Michigan in 1989.
Since 2000, the Big Ten is 0-8 in national championship games.
I hate UConn basketball so much but Purdue's football coach is such a douche I wanted them to win tonight. Gross.
As much of a bag as Hurley is, they play really, really good basketball. It's just non-stop player movement and ball movement. So many different types of screens and actions. The play where they put Newton on a side by himself for the Carolina cut was beautiful.
Michigan will have to be the team to finally win it all as a B1G program and I'm fine with that.
I believe May will put us in position to do that sooner than later.
Upvoted because I want to believe it.
We'll be good with May, but frankly, Beilein had us as competitive as we can hope to be in this day and age, without blatant cheating. When you have to compete year-in, year-out against Duke, UConn, Kansas, UNC, Louisville, Arizona, Kentucky, etc. without a bagman, good luck!
You seem to be suggesting that we had some kind of ceiling under Beilein. The man took us to the national title game twice.
The block was clean and in retrospect M did not lose to Louisville.
Yeah, watching UConn's offense be so efficient even compared to top-level offensive coaches like Painter and Oats but also be lock down defensively is a huge credit to Hurley, even if the guy seems like an asshole.
I'm not a Hurley guy by any means (any Hurley) but he seems to be a good dude with some mental health issues he's willing to discuss.
As far as basketball is concerned...yeah, congrats to UConn. They look to be doing it right, both on and off the court.
Purdue Basketball is not nearly as obnoxious as Purdue Football (despite being much better).
Because of his brother at Staee, just the name Loyer makes me root against Purdue.
I hate the big ten so I'm glad they lost
Nah, I can pull for Purdue basketball. May they forever eclipse their football team.
Iowa was basically Caitlyn Clark and a bunch of role players. Their bench was outscored 37-0.
Purdue was basically Zach Edey and a bunch of role players. Edey was the only player with more than 4 FGs.
SCar and UConn were both deep and balanced.
^^^^^ This. One clear difference in the championship games, IMO, was balance and depth of roster.
I watched the first 10-12 minutes of the second half last night, and I went to bed secure that Purdue was outclassed and had no chance to win. I was hoping Purdue would somehow win it, but didn't really think they could. Same with Iowa on Sunday. Buildng around one player is great, but you need a team to win it all.
Chauncey Billups approves this sentiment.
This is exactly where my mind was at. After what happened this past football season, fuck the rest of the schools in the Big Ten, regardless of the sport.
I’ve also run into a surprisingly high number of Purdue douche bags who clearly have inferiority complex issues related to Michigan (since they’re a basketball+engineering school and we’re arguably better at both without prioritizing either).
The block was clean!
This still chocks my guff!
But wait! Their elbows touched!
I was there, saw it with my own eyes. Everybody else in that arena knew it was clean except for one douchebag with a whistle.
Tony Green was the ref....never forget that zeebs name
and so was the team!
That team should have won that game. They had the talent to beat Louisville. There were a lot of questionable calls in this game, that being the worst. I don't think many teams were going to beat the Villanova team (if we had DJ back then I think it would have been a possibility to help cover all positions). That Louisville game still hurts. One of the best runs through the tournament I've seen.
That 'nova team deserved to win the way it did - they were crazy good.
That Louisville team should've lost. The ref should've swallowed the whistle. I hate when games come down to referee malpractice.
Everyone talks about the block but something that was also a huge impact was when they got the foul call that should have gone on Hancock wrong and gave it to someone else. He went on to score like 9 points or whatever it was after he should have fouled out.
We lost to who I believe to be the best college basketball team since 1990 UNLV when we lost to Nova in 2018.
For some reason, I can’t seem to find anything about losing the 2013 game, but I know we were in the NCG 🤔
According to the official record, nobody won more games in the 2013 NCAA tournament than Michigan. So that makes us the National Champions in my book.
Hang the Banner(s).
Irony is a bitch. It's not BPONE. I love that Michigan won it all in Football this year. I just hate it when Wormley and Simpkins and Burke and... make a stop and it slips away.
How many days until the first football game? Time to start the posts. Let the Dusty redemption tour begin. It is going to take a whole lot of winning to wash the memory of these bad calls from my mind.
2013 still stings a lot more than 2018. And the fact that Louisville had to vacate that title makes it sting even more.
That 2018 Villanova team was loaded. We could have played them 50 times and we would have lost 47 of them.
My recollection of 2018 is what it was a march to eventually losing to the inevitable champion, kind of like UConn this year. Villanova was just the best team by a significant margin over the field.
At least State ran into a similar situation when they played North Carolina in I think 2009. No team was going to beat NC that year, so glad that State and Izzo didn't get another one.
A lot of us rooted for Staee that year just because of the symbolism of it all. That game took place in Detroit at the lowest point of the Great Recession, which had hit Michigan harder than any other state in the country.
Fifteen Big Ten teams have made the Final Four since 2000, so we're 0-15 since then.
The odds of that have to be astronomical.
Statistically speaking, by now a Big Ten team should've won by accident.
That should have been Michigan
Assuming that there was only one B1G team in the final four each of those years, and assuming that all final four teams have an equal chance of winning it all, the probability of no B1G teams having done so is 1.3%
The Big Ten also went 0-fer in the 1990s, too, despite having at least six teams in the FF that I can remember:
-1992 Michigan
-‘92 Indiana
-‘93 Michigan
-‘97 Minnesota
-‘99 MSU
-‘99 OSU
The one time the conference got over the hump in the last 30+ years, 2000 MSU got to play an 8 seed and 5 seed in the Final Four. Can’t get that kind of draw too often.
With either competent officiating or competent enforcement from the NCAA, Michigan would've won in 2013. Unfortunately we got neither.
Honestly, I think we lost on 2013 because of Beilein's auto bench policy at the end of the first half, allowing Hancock go off and squandering our substantial lead.
And sadly in a lot of these games, the Big Ten team is overmatched right from the tip. Which of the 8 had even a chance in their games? 2015 Wisconsin, 2013 Michigan, 2005 Illinois.
From the start, 2024 Purdue, 2018 Michigan, 2009 MSU, and 2007 OSU didn’t stand much of a chance.
No argument with the premise, but going to gently disagree with the category of a couple of the teams. I don't think one can really call a #1 seed a team that has "no chance," even if both OSU and Purdue had the bad luck to face dominant repeat champions; that OSU team was 30-3, and this Purdue team was an underdog but hardly a walkover.
They're not at all in the same category as the Indiana team that had no business making the final (against, uh, Maryland) or that MSU team that everyone knew would get steamrolled in Detroit.
I like how UConn wins a title about every four years and it's still not enough for anyone to care about UConn.
I still don't know where UConn is. I have never even met anybody from UConn, and I live in the Northeast.
Great Philosophy department. They got that going for them.
Storrs, CT.
"Cayun't get theah frum heah".
I never hear that university mentioned in any context other than basketball (and their occasional flash-in-the-pan football success). I know a handful of people from Connecticut, and none of them have any affiliation with UConn. Never seen them mentioned in connection with any research or studies or accolades. Never seen any professor from there quoted in the media. They apparently have a law school, but I've never met anyone who went there. Do they even have any actual academics?
Whatever anyone thinks of Jim Calhoun, UConn was nothing before he started there. Check out the season records:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UConn_Huskies_men%27s_basketball_seasons
Since then? Six championships. How many have the "blue bloods" had since '99 (the first UConn instance)?