Jon Jansen goes after J.J. and some of the players. "Read the room" He says.

This is the most blown out of proportion mini scandal I've ever seen. A few players wore Harbaugh shirts and they did a little, silly formation one time. Who cares? It's such a minor thing

Jon come on. Read the room? Did Jim kill someone?

Does Harbaugh do pregame/postgame stuff with the radio crew (Karsch and Jansen)? If so, going to be mighty awkward when he comes back from suspension.

I'm not going to listen to the podcast, but I'm good with our players having some type of faux motivation during the pre-season schedule. To me, it's the same as these coaches and players playing the disrespect card when they're a top 5 team (looking at UGA and Bama).

Also, isn't Jansen the color commentator? What did he say about the train formation as they ran the play? There should be some receipts on those comments. If he didn't have an issue with it then, then there should be no issues now.

What did JJ do? Is this about "Free Harbaugh" and the train formation? Am I missing something?

IMO, "The Room" are the guys currently in the Michigan locker room and the coaches, support staff. That's it.

Everyone else, former players, coaches, students alum are not in "The Room".

No issue with his opinion, but feels rather like an uncle complaining about how your mom and dad runs the family...

stay in your swim lane

It's a trickle down effect. The players see how much the NCAA doesn't care so they also stop caring. I don't blame them.

Jansen should read the 'room'. NCAA violations are like AM radio. Nobody under 50 gives a shit.

Imagine a fan base of however many million having differing opinions…

Why do people get so upset if someone says something they don't agree with? Ok Jansen didn't like it. Cool. Did I think it was a little corny? Yes but don't really care either way.

Continues the mysterious trend of Carr era players talking crap about the RR, Hoke and Harbaugh players. This has been going on for a while.

I do remember the short conversation Stoney and Jon had about the tunnel incident last year, and it definitely did not seem like Jansen was blaming Tucker, the MSU players or the culture there. 

he probably told JJ to get off his lawn too.

There’s a bigger picture here than a (generally boring and sunshine blowing) podcast. I fear this is not an isolated incident but a salvo (fired through the AD’s official podcast/podcaster) in an ongoing battle between Harbaugh and Warde over the NCAA investigation. Remember when the AD was going to have JH’s back as he fought the NCAA if they insisted on suspending him? The AD didn’t follow through and pressured JH to accept a suspension. JH went along rather than blow up a promising season.
But he didn’t go quietly. With obvious approval of JH (they must’ve practiced the train during the week to use it in game) the players made it known that they (and JH) don’t view the suspension as just with a small protest. The AD is now firing back through Jansen (and likely planting the idea for the opinion piece in the Daily) to make it known that the players’ (and JH’s) protests are unacceptable. The AD disrespecting its most valuable employee is unlikely to end well. I think, at most, only one of JH and Warde are at michigan in a year. I hope (but doubt) it’s Harbaugh.

At least we can all agree it was better than staking the field

I avoid 97.1 like the plague, I was disappointed to find out that Jansen is involved there.

Thanks for the link, not going to listen. No need to support any of that stuff. As Brian said, the train formation pissed off the right people, so that alone makes it awesome.

I think that people are getting way too much mileage out of the claim that it is a "self-imposed suspension."  If someone puts a gun in your face and says "your money or your life," no rational person thinks you are voluntarily giving them your money.  If the NCAA makes clear that a suspension must be part of the pound of flesh that they are seeking, then trying to avoid another offseason of noise and uncertainty by self-imposing one does not really make it truly voluntary.

And if it causes the team to rally together with an us-against-the-world mentality, at a time when we are heavy favorites in most of our games and complacency could be an issue, then I don't mind these simple gestures.

I didn't listen to Jansen's podcast either, but I'd presume his perspective is that the team should just take its lumps and move on.  Well, the team is already taking its lumps -- Harbaugh is serving a suspension and the team is playing without him on the sideline.  As for moving on, how exactly does Jansen and the rest of the media continuing to discuss it contribute to moving on?  He's welcome to his opinion, but it seems hypocritical for him to be giving it airtime if he really thinks it deserves less. 

I don't understand why anyone would be upset with "Free Harbaugh", the Train formation, or players holding up 4 fingers in support of their coach.  Hell, I'd be much more upset about all of this if the players didn't give a rats ass if their coach was with them, or not.  Fact is, the players apparently LOVE their head coach and support him and think he's being railroaded (to which I personally agree).

Imaging if they didn't care.  Imagine if they had a coach they didn't want to play for.  Anyone think they'd be staring down a National Championship right now?

And stop with the whole 'Harbaugh broke the rules' bullshit.  His program committed the same types of Level 2 BS that every other program commits every year, and gets barely a slap on the wrist for.  What's different in this situation?  The head coach of Michigan football didn't remember a lunch tab with two HS seniors that had already signed a NLI to Michigan ~2 years prior, during the Covid shutdowns.  And for that the NCAA told him to admit to what he didn't remember and when he didn't they called it 'misleading the NCAA'.

This is what earns 4 games from the NCAA while literal bags of money results in nothing more than a stern "HARUUMPH"...

makes me wonder if he'll continue to have as much access to Harbaugh that he does

This might be easier to listen to if they could at least get names of the players they are talking about straight

Life's good for Michigan fans when this is our biggest problem.

This shit again? The kids are simply supporting their coach. I don't think it needs to be psychoanalyzed beyond that. Also the fact that your poopy head is fucking talking about it means they achieved their goal. The NCAA doesn't apply their arbitrary rules equally and double standards are everywhere. Accepting the consequences for a bad rule isn't "taking responsibility" it's "taking it up the ass" willingly because you like it like that. Some rules and laws are bad and if you had a spine you'd be able to recognize that. Going along with them to a fault isn't noble. See the history of the U.S. and institutional laws in general for reference.  Jansen's opinion is bad and he should feel bad about it. We also don't know all the details and full story yet . . . and we're gonna talk like Harbaugh was absolutely in the wrong bc he broke some technical rule during a weird COVID year that was fucked anyway. That's what's childish.The lawyers haven't even spoken yet. The "It's like they're going 55 in 50. It's still breaking the law" crowd can get fucked.  There's holding on every play, but if the refs are only calling it on one side you don't complain?  You're just cool with that because they're "technically still holding".  Bullshit. We have schools "drunk driving"  regularly and it gets completely ignored.  Ask yourself why you spend more time obsessing over Harbaugh's alleged minor transgressions and not the blatant and intentional rule breaking going on everywhere that the NCAA ignores.  Going 5 over doesn't warrant jack shit in that context. If the law is applied equally then fine, but it's not so fuck the entire charade that is the NCAA trying to swing their micro penis around like they actually have something to swing.  They need to go back to their toilet and pee sitting down while the big boys play and serious people work.

Must be lookin for an espn gig

I say this with a base level of respect but former players at some point just become dudes with opinions like everyone else and the fact they used to play for the football team doesn't cloud the fact they may just have a shitty opinion.  During various dark ages under RR, Hoke, and Harbaugh we absolutely heard former players (Braylon, for example, has shit on the team at various instances) talk shit and wrap it up in the cloak of "the Team". 

There's a reason I don't listen to Jansen on the radio. 

Jon Jansen is a dumb motherfucker and so are his kids.

Am I the only one unreasonably annoyed by people calling this the train 'formation'? It's not really a formation at all, it's a train huddle. 

never listened to his show, will never listen to his show. He can have his opinion but I have no interest of knowing it. 

Considering this is the only time I can remember all (not counting rcmb or similar psychos) of college football being on Harbaugh and Michigan's side I think Jansen is the one who needs to read the room.

I guess you have to troll if you're on 97.1, regardless of your role with the program. Seems like more of 'Lloyd's Guys" holier than thou stuff, which even Lloyd's grandson wants nothing to do with.

Ban him.