November 16th, 2023 at 3:28 PM ^
Are you serious?
November 16th, 2023 at 3:29 PM ^
That should tell everyone all we need to know.
Think about this Jim will have missed half the season with suspensions. I don’t think he is back next year and spare me it’s because it’s what he wants
Neg away. Truth hurts sometimes. They got caught with their pants down. There will be more dropping about at least one assistant involved. This is on Jim’s hiring practices more than anything. He gone
November 16th, 2023 at 3:51 PM ^
I will indeed neg-away. You're welcome.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:05 PM ^
And to you I say buuuurrrrpppp.
They took all of us for a ride to defend Michigan. It hurts I know but be mad at the University.
You don’t end this unless the B1G showed what they have to Michigan and Michigan stood down.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:12 PM ^
This is your opinion, you’re wrong, but your opinion nonetheless.
blurrrrrp indeed
November 16th, 2023 at 4:21 PM ^
Hahahahaha you’ll see I’m right and I’ll accept your apology.
I know more people involved directly in this than you do. That is not my opinion that is a fact. As I said I’ll accept your apology later I won’t be that guy
November 16th, 2023 at 6:44 PM ^
So you're saying that the B1G didn't drop the case, like the University and, um, the B1G itself said it did? Sure.
November 16th, 2023 at 7:51 PM ^
If it’s fact, then support it with evidence. You can’t claim it’s fact just because you want to, that’s not how it works.
And lol yeah, you’re never getting an apology from me. Nice try, though
November 16th, 2023 at 5:44 PM ^
I put you at triple digits, you're not welcome
November 16th, 2023 at 6:12 PM ^
You are even dumber than the other 13 cobras.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:29 PM ^
I get it. If this is dragged out, it really becomes an emotional distraction at a time we need to be preparing for the game. It sucks. But I believe Harbaugh is doing this in the best interest of Michigan winning out.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:32 PM ^
Plus get him back for BIG championship and CFP; seems Michigan thought they weren't going to get an injunction?
November 16th, 2023 at 3:34 PM ^
I sort of assumed that the injunction argument here was the tough sell; perhaps the judge intimated that he wasn't going to rule quickly either way so that that point you've already got 2/3 of the suspension served and if you then don't win the TRO you're still suspended plus potential other punishments. If the B1G is conceding this is it and we're done then it makes some sense for postseason play.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:41 PM ^
It's a fool's errand to be optimistic about the NCAA; but maybe this gives the NCAA an out in 2024. "the teams most affected, i.e., BIG, agreed to a 3 game suspension as adequate punishment" so we'll go with close to time served.
Well, one can hope!
November 16th, 2023 at 3:47 PM ^
I am sure both sides did not want this in the courts. Additional information may have been provided to UM as well that moved the needle here. The bottom line is that it probably would have gotten even uglier if both sides didn't agree to settle this now. You can never be sure how a judge will rule in these situations and it is always better to settle then spend exorbitant amounts of money litigating.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:00 PM ^
Not having Harbaugh there vs OSU is a big disadvantage. Forget postseason play, if we lose to OSU there's no playoffs
November 16th, 2023 at 3:47 PM ^
Harbaugh being the coach for OSU is better for the team. Moore won the PSU game, but the team clearly and obviously looks and plays better with Harbaugh as the coach.
The could have at least waited to see if they would get the injunction first. Plus the NCAA can still punish Michigan and the conference and these piece of shit coaches get a win. This is a loss for Michigan on every front.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:02 PM ^
I mean Moore was made coach less than 24 hours before the game. I have faith that for the last two games Harbaugh and co. will facilitate a better plan, considering Harbaugh isn't even suspended during the week.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:47 PM ^
If it's not a big deal getting your head coach suspended, I don't think they would punish teams by suspending them. They clearly know it's a harsh punishment, hence, why they did it even though they openly admitted they had no evidence to punish him.
November 16th, 2023 at 5:25 PM ^
You can't base this off one road game in a hostile environment.
They'll be home and Moore has time to prepare. Plus Harbaugh will be with them during the week so he's not completely out of the picture.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:54 PM ^
I agree, I honestly think this is it, mostly. Who freakin knows about the other rumors, but my gut says Jim will be the freakin man he is and take it on the chin, just so his team can focus a bit more.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:29 PM ^
Fuck Petitti and the big ten
this is bullshit
November 16th, 2023 at 3:30 PM ^
That is weak shit from the university
November 16th, 2023 at 3:31 PM ^
So what happened to fighting back.......
November 16th, 2023 at 3:31 PM ^
The 247 paywall board was indicating earlier this week he'd likely be back on the sidelines for OSU. Bummer....
November 16th, 2023 at 3:41 PM ^
They don’t know shit and never have. Glorified weatherman
November 16th, 2023 at 3:31 PM ^
inb4 Ryan Day is suspended for the game as well
November 16th, 2023 at 3:31 PM ^
This can’t be real. Why would we accept a 3 game suspension when they aren’t even allowed to give 1?
November 16th, 2023 at 3:33 PM ^
There's like a 90% chance this wouldn't have even been ruled on by Saturday, so that's 2/3 games before it even gets decided. Idk, it sucks, but it's not the end of the world
November 16th, 2023 at 3:36 PM ^
Michigan giving up makes me angrier than the big ten issuing the bullshit sentence to begin with.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:32 PM ^
Yep. Very disappointed. The only thing that will make this better is if Harbaugh's contract is signed right away.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:56 PM ^
This, and just keep winning baby. Thats all we got...
Just like what Jim is doing, lets move on, the fuck heads won unfortunately and while it sucks ... just win, support Sherrone, support the boys...and lets roll heads
November 16th, 2023 at 3:32 PM ^
Also the university and Jim made a lot of people look dumb the last couple of weeks
November 16th, 2023 at 3:53 PM ^
What is your problem with Jim? You are trolling him all the fucking time. GTFO.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:15 PM ^
Trolling? Truth is not trolling. As Coach Carr told me years ago when Jim was at Stanford “Jim isn’t who people think he is”
Jim’s hiring practices have got him in serious shit. More is coming out and when it does I’ll take the apology as usual.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:22 PM ^
Stop. Carr didn't say shit to you. I am not apologizing to douchebags who are ready to share about Carr and throw him under the bus. You don't know shit about Jim. You want to disparage him, go to RCMB.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:27 PM ^
Another thing. Ross on WTKA roundtable said that he asked this question to Carr and Carr denied this rumor. I trust him a lot more than you.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:32 PM ^
This is really weird, and also makes me wonder what was going on with Harbaugh's claims he was ready to talk at the hearing. I have to assume something came about that either the school or the conference weren't expecting and the decision was made to settle that element. If this is truly the B1G conceding this is the only punishment he'd receive then I guess this sorta makes sense from UM's standpoint; they can go into next year and beyond not worried about some future action. And maybe this also nips any potential NCAA punishment as well. But lots of unknowns and on its face a weird decision.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:50 PM ^
It's awful on Michigan's part. the B1G overstepped wildly, so any further punishment could have been fought and this does nothing to stop the NCAA investigation. Michigan loses the PR battle, the battle with the conference and is not handcuffed against OSU and a chance to win the conference.
I don't see any positives about this, because they'll be called cheaters regardless and this will only validate people who believe that even more.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:59 PM ^
Perhaps there is a confidential agreement that the Conference will lobby the NCAA on behalf of Michigan and Harbaugh that the suspensions earlier this year and currently will be sufficient for all concerned and that all parties can move on.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:03 PM ^
Everyone on this board is ignoring how badly Michigan has lost the PR battle here. Look at the comments on literally any article or video from literally any (non-UM affiliated) source, and all of the comments are everyone talking about how we're the scummest cheatbags on earth. Any pro-UM coverage is "the UM lies machine spinning." These are real terms people are using! Also this sets a precedent that Tony Pettiti can just cave to an angry mob.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:13 PM ^
All I'm hoping for at this point is that the insider info was right and we have dirt on everyone and it starts trickling out. It probably won't do anything because as you said, people will just cry about the BLUE WALL. But doing nothing thus far hasn't benefitted the program or it's fans either, so why not play the cards if you've got 'em?
November 16th, 2023 at 4:45 PM ^
And you think this is going to help that?!
November 16th, 2023 at 6:49 PM ^
Fuck 'em. Embrace the villain role.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:52 PM ^
Everyone has the pitchforks out, but this is a more calm take. While I'm very disappointed in the result here, when we beat MD and OSU with Moore at the helm, it will be glorious.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:49 PM ^
And if Day and OSU beat us? It'll be the crime of the century (in sports) and we did nothing to prevent it.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:56 PM ^
I know people are pissed but I think your read is the correct one. The B1G didn’t want to lose in court, nor did they want to win in court initially and then have to go through a lengthier court process down the road where dirty laundry would get aired. Michigan didn’t want to deal with “future punishments” that were sort of put on the table. I wish they had agreed to a 2 game suspension but I’m sure the B1G knew if they allowed that then all hell would’ve broken loose.
November 16th, 2023 at 4:53 PM ^
Fight them on any future punishments to. You knew what you were getting into when you refused to punish Jim the first time. The B1G treated Michigan like absolutely shit the whole time. Leaked to opponents that they thought were cheating without concluding any investigation, punished with no due process and broke their own rules, punished well above the worth of the actual crimes, waited until the last minute to punish to hurt us as much as possible, leaked it to ESPN before telling the school.
You let them get away with all that for what? A possible under the table agreement? Their word isn't worth shit. They smeared you and damaged your reputation and damaged your ability to win a national title. What could they have possibly offered that makes all that even? The answer is fucking nothing.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:57 PM ^
Considering what comes out if this actually gets litigated, the fact that there was a settlement isn't surprising.
If Michigan didn't get something (at least under the table) in compensation for this, or doesn't have some sort of assured vengeance planned, I can't understand how THIS was the settlement.
November 16th, 2023 at 3:32 PM ^
I'm fucking pissed! This is bullshit