November 28th, 2023 at 7:53 PM ^
Seeing OSU 6 is concerning but I feel pretty strongly that an Alabama win over Georgia to win the SEC would vault them ahead of OSU. Not *as* strongly about a Texas win over OK State, but it would be for a conference championship and they only need to rise 1 spot to beat OSU. I really don't think anything has changed. OSU needs Texas and Florida State to lose to even be in the conversation.
Would suck though if it happened. OSU knocked Michigan out of the CFP in 2016 and 2018, would figure if we beat them 3 years in a row and they still made the CFP in 2 of those years (yeah I know, don't lose to Iowa and Michigan would have made it in at least 2016)
November 28th, 2023 at 7:56 PM ^
Go Dawgs!
And if they lose:
Go ‘Noles!
I’m actually concerned about Ducks even more than Bulldogs.
And caring about THE Playskool is just noise. Honestly, I’d love to be the first Michigan team to beat them twice in a single season.
November 28th, 2023 at 7:56 PM ^
Quick rant:
This shit never makes any sense to me.
Michigan only moving up 1 spot after beating the #2 ranked team as determined by the Playoff Committee is just dumb as fuck.
Georgia beats Bama on Saturday, sure, I'd have no problem at all moving back to #2.
But this week, after beating #2 (now #6) Michigan SHOULD be the #1 team.
/ end rant
November 28th, 2023 at 8:00 PM ^
Texas and Bama are obviously ranked behind OSU so that if those teams lose, they stay behind OSU and don't appear to be "punished" for having played in a conference title game while OSU stayed at home and watched it happen.
But...what about Washington and FSU? If those teams lose, a lot of people (myself included) presume that OSU would jump them. Yet, those would also just be 1-loss teams who are being punished for having played an extra game.
I'd like to believe that maybe OSU really is already out.
November 28th, 2023 at 8:14 PM ^
Based on principle, OSU should already be out due to FSU.
In reality, I think FSU gets the eject button if they lose due to the injury to Travis.
If Washington loses, I think it's a coin flip between Washington & OSU.
November 28th, 2023 at 8:52 PM ^
I’d like to believe that too, but this ranking seems to suggest that if FSU and Wash lose, the top 4 would be UGa-UM-Ore-OSU, which is complete and utter horseshit but that’s what it says. Even if Texas wins, beating #20 doesn’t add much
November 28th, 2023 at 9:43 PM ^
This times 1000!!! and I don't comment often but its the same as last year. Why does any team that doesn't play this weekend (bc they aren't worthy to play in their own conference champ game) have any reason at all to jump any team that has awarded themselves the chance to play this weekend??
November 28th, 2023 at 8:03 PM ^
OK let's go chalk!!! Definitely would rather face Washington or FSU than anyone else at this point.
November 28th, 2023 at 8:21 PM ^
We can all debate this and have our opinions but it all has to play out in the end and we will see. All I care about is a Michigan victory on Saturday night to know for sure we are locked in for our berth to chase a national championship. Go Blue!
November 28th, 2023 at 8:24 PM ^
Wonder what Warde had to say in the war room?
November 28th, 2023 at 8:33 PM ^
I hope he leaves OSU off the ballot. Every. Single. Time.
November 28th, 2023 at 9:00 PM ^
“Anyone going back for seconds”?
November 28th, 2023 at 8:25 PM ^
I think the committee is floating OSU at #6 right now for the talking points, but Texas and Bama leapfrog them if they win. They can't do anything to help their resume anymore so I think this is their peak ranking and they'll only fall barring some chaos and even with chaos I think they're gonna stay at 5
November 28th, 2023 at 8:28 PM ^
I’d like the 4 CFP teams to be the top 4 as it stands, but honestly I don’t care who we play. Bring it.
November 28th, 2023 at 8:41 PM ^
Texas can jump Ohio as well
November 28th, 2023 at 8:48 PM ^
I read this that if Oregon wins and FSU loses, OSU is in. Which is complete horseshit, but that’s what putting them ahead of Texas seems to imply.
November 28th, 2023 at 8:50 PM ^
Even on the remote chance of Iowa beating Michigan, Michigan would still be the number 4 team.
If bama beats GA and Oregon beasts Washington, FSU wins, and Michigan beats Iowa:.
1. Michigan. 2. Georgia, 3. FSU 4. Alabama. I don't like this scenario
If Georgia beats bama, If Washington defeats Oregon and FSU wins along with Michigan.
1. UGA, 2. UM, 3. Washington, 4. FSU. I like this better.
If UGA beats Bama. If Oregon defeats Washington, and both FSU and Michigan both win.
1. UGA, 2. UM, 3. FSU, 4. Oregon. This is the best scenario IMO.
November 28th, 2023 at 9:03 PM ^
What would happen if Bama defeats UGA and Michigan, Washington and FSU remain undefeated. I would say UGA would be left out of the playoffs.
1.) Michigan, 2.) Washington, 3.) FSU, 4.) Bama.
November 28th, 2023 at 9:11 PM ^
What if UGA beats Bama, Oregon beats Washington, Louisville beats FSU, and Texas beats Okie State? Would they dare put Ohio over conference champion Texas in the 4 spot? I can't see the justification.
November 28th, 2023 at 9:15 PM ^
My vote is for Washington to lose and FSU to win and the final four being:
1 UGA 2 Michigan 3 FSU 4 Oregon
George would have the tougher semifinal match. Of course I thought the same last year when we ended up with TCU and we all know how that ended up.
November 28th, 2023 at 9:19 PM ^
Doesn’t matter where Alabama is right now. If they win on Saturday, they’re in. A 12-1 SEC champion that just beat the #1 team in the country ain’t getting left out. What happens to Georgia will be very curious. Would they stay above a 12-1 Texas team that beat Alabama and won its conference?
I can’t imagine the SEC is getting two teams in this year. Michigan is in, winner of Oregon/Washington is in, winner of the SEC title game is in, and then you have four teams vying for that fourth spot. If Texas and FSU win, both of them should have claim over OSU and the loser of the SEC title game. But I don’t know how you decide if both Texas and FSU win. My money goes on Texas because they have the better wins, and have their starting QB.
FSU just looks like a completely different team without Jordan Travis.
November 28th, 2023 at 9:51 PM ^
I think I agree w just about everything you wrote. People who think that a 12-1 SEC Champion is getting left out are smoking crack. Nothing about the history of the CFP suggests that that would happen. Also, it shouldn't happen. SEC has earned the right to receive the benefit of the doubt.
As for FSU, without Travis, there is no reasonable argument that they are one of the four best teams in the country. The injury is a terrible thing. It becomes an issue of which four deserves it the most versus which four are the best, and the cmte has stated that its goal ultimately is to select the four best teams. That's their objective.
November 29th, 2023 at 1:49 PM ^
If Alabama is in then Texas has to be in.
Texas has already beaten Alabama head-to-head, at Alabama, by double digits. That matters. That's why you play the games.
November 28th, 2023 at 9:28 PM ^
Kirk Herbstreit and others were trying to argue that a 1 loss Alabama/1 loss Georgia should be in the top 4 over an undefeated FSU because it's about the 4 "best teams" not the best resumes. Isn't it supposed to be about the 4 most deserving teams, not necessarily who you think the 4 best teams are? I think it would be bullshit to leave out a team that won all their games in favor of a 1 loss team.
November 28th, 2023 at 9:43 PM ^
born on 3rd base, still on third base
November 28th, 2023 at 9:48 PM ^
If Alabama beats Georgia, how can they not jump ahead? And if they jump ahead, Texas can jump with them.
The question for OSU is how far Washington would drop with a loss. I don't think enough to help. OSU's alive, but they need wins from Georgia, Washington, Oklahoma State and Louisville.
November 28th, 2023 at 10:01 PM ^
I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news about OSU, but this afternoon I was running errands and my iPhone had disconnected from my car and I couldn't get it reconnected, so I decided to listen to to a sports talk show on Sirius XM, and just picked one at random.Turns out it was Paul Finebaum, who I know virtually nothing about except what I've read here. (I know so little about him first hand that I thought his last name had three syllables.) I've seen his picture on this site, so I was glad it was radio.
Anyway, here's the bad news: A caller asked him about Ohio State's chances, and he said OSU had no chance.
Based on what I've read about him here, I guess that means OSU is a lock. And probably will win it all.
You can all kill yourselves now or wait for the inevitable.
November 28th, 2023 at 10:08 PM ^
How does Texas beating a 9-3 Oklahoma St team vault them over OSU?! It makes no sense at all. The committee is clearly saying that they believe OSU is better than Texas. How can Texas possibly change that with anything other than an absolute dismantling of OK St? I know we don't want OSU in the CFP but they probably get in with an FSU loss and honestly they should. OSU would beat Texas and we all know it.
Also, Oregon is the team we want to avoid. This Georgia team will not win the CFP.
November 28th, 2023 at 10:34 PM ^
I still don't see how OSU gets in.
UGA is in regardless. If they lose to Bama that likely means both are in.
Michigan wins and we're in.
Pac winner is in.
For OSU to have a chance it feels like FSU and Texas need to lose, UGA beats Bama and Michigan loses (and even then I think Michigan has a stronger case to still get in than OSU). Otherwise I'm just not seeing it.
November 28th, 2023 at 10:58 PM ^
Michigan is the only lock in the top 4
If Oregon beats UW, Bama wins and FSU loses...
1 UM 2 Oregon 3 Bama 4 ???
November 28th, 2023 at 11:18 PM ^
It just occurred to me that the biggest chaos bomb would be us losing to barely-ranked Iowa. We’d still be 12-1, with a loss to a ranked opponent in a conference championship. Would we stay in the top 4?
November 28th, 2023 at 11:54 PM ^
Normally we would be number 4, with a loss to Iowa. But this year with the sign gate bullshit, the committee would drop us down to 5 if we lose to IA.
November 29th, 2023 at 1:50 PM ^
DO NOT LOSE TO IOWA.
November 28th, 2023 at 11:56 PM ^
Can you imagine the hot seat under Day if Michigan beats him twice this year?
November 29th, 2023 at 8:36 AM ^
I'd bet anything Texas winning will vault them ahead of osu. The committee does this all the time. They put osu in striking distance should fsu and texas lose but also has texas positioned for an easy justification to move up a few spots.
GA wins, UM wins, FSU loses, OR wins, Texas wins =
1. GA, 2. UM, 3. OR, 4. TX 5. OSU
I don't particularly like that draw and I'd rather UM play Texas or WA or FSU in the first round.
November 29th, 2023 at 10:21 AM ^
Unfortunately, I cannot see a clear path to playing FSU in the playoff here. I think the best case scenario is everyone undefeated wins on Saturday and the rankings hold exactly as they are now to set up one last Pac/B1G Rose Bowl. I want no part of Georgia or Oregon in a semifinal. If you're facing them, you want that to be for all the marbles in the championship where you can empty out the kitchen sink without worrying about anything else. UW is just not playing at that same level right now. Georgia isn't really either but it's Georgia, that's a power-matchup that needs to be for the championship.
I worry that both UW and FSU will lose, Michigan will be stuck at #2 with the less impressive win over Iowa, and get stuck playing Oregon at #3. Maaaaybe if Georgia loses and and FSU loses, Georgia ends up 2/3 with UW/Oregon, but we just saw the #2 team lose to #3 and drop to #6. That kind of precedent would lead me to think UGA would drop further if they lost to #8 now, but maybe the SEC bias will save us and they'll end up with the nightmare semifinal instead.
November 29th, 2023 at 1:53 PM ^
The CFP committee would love to see one last Big Ten - Pac 12 Rose Bowl. They will find a way to engineer that outcome no matter what.
If we beat Iowa, we are playing Washington or Oregon in the Rose Bowl. It has already been determined.