November 30th, 2022 at 9:53 PM ^
Bring it on. Would like it to be an 8 team playoff, but if merely wishing made it so my wife would love football and I could still see my abs 🤷🏼♂️
November 30th, 2022 at 10:40 PM ^
Bet your wife would like to see your abs, too. ☺
December 1st, 2022 at 1:00 AM ^
I agree, 12 is too many but 8 is perfect. Oh well.
December 1st, 2022 at 6:49 AM ^
12 teams means multiple 9-3 teams will qualify each season, which simply turns college football into the NFL (with shittier players). But I guess this was inevitable.
Goodbye, most meaningful regular season in sports. I’ll miss you.
December 1st, 2022 at 7:22 AM ^
This +1M. How many times in the past was Michigan Ohio State the Big Ten Championship and the National Championship all in one? This is absolutely a bad direction for college football. For sports with playoffs (everything else) I watch a couple/few regular season games and then the playoffs if my team is good. This is bad for college football. Will there be an NIT that no one watches too?
December 1st, 2022 at 8:18 AM ^
Bad direction doesn't matter. Only dollars matter now. I don't know how old you are. I'm early 40's so my advice would be to just be thankful we got to live through some amazing years.
And on a more positive note, this might create some fun matchups that we'd otherwise have never seen.
December 1st, 2022 at 8:49 AM ^
I actually think a decent compromise would be to just take all 10 FBS conference champions, seeded by ranking, with 2 play-in games to get to a field of 8. Regular season still matters: UM-OSU would decide who goes to the playoff in most years. SEC bias can't keep a team out, only affect seeding. There's also less need to go undefeated or 1-loss, so teams can feel free to schedule good OOC games. And there are more games, so more $$$ for those that want it. Also Notre Dame gets left out.
It could also expand to 12 or 16 with the remaining 2 or 6 teams being at-larges. That still includes the independents and brings overall record back into play a bit. But I still think having auto-bids for all conferences with very limited at-larges would be the best scenario for CFB.
December 1st, 2022 at 11:59 AM ^
Yes - the NIT is the bowl games.
December 1st, 2022 at 7:34 AM ^
Yup, and in most years The Game won't matter at all.
December 1st, 2022 at 7:53 AM ^
Ah yes, great take. Because the Game never matters when Michigan enters it with a couple (or more) losses...
December 1st, 2022 at 9:10 AM ^
Respectfully disagree. Now some parity with recruiting can finally happen since more schools can sell recruits on making playoff. The current system is the Alabama/Georgia Invitational. That era is about to end. I love it.
December 1st, 2022 at 10:50 AM ^
NIL does that. Texas A&M hasn't sniffed the playoffs and got the number 1 class through NIL. Recruiting, like always, will come down to money.
December 1st, 2022 at 8:30 AM ^
Wait...you want her in the room asking questions? Sample...Isn't that a penalty he hit him so hard?
November 30th, 2022 at 9:54 PM ^
You want to get nuts? Let’s get nuts!
November 30th, 2022 at 10:19 PM ^
🎶let’s go crazy 🎶
“That’s a lot of nuts”-Kung Pow
December 1st, 2022 at 7:11 AM ^
Snoopy and Prickly Pete are ready to get nuts.
November 30th, 2022 at 9:56 PM ^
This will give lesser programs like osu a chance to make the playoffs again
November 30th, 2022 at 9:58 PM ^
And Penn State
November 30th, 2022 at 11:13 PM ^
But still not Sparty
November 30th, 2022 at 9:59 PM ^
LOL!!!!
Beautiful Indy Pete! Beautiful!
November 30th, 2022 at 10:03 PM ^
And Bama
November 30th, 2022 at 10:18 PM ^
This cannot be upvoted enough
November 30th, 2022 at 11:47 PM ^
November 30th, 2022 at 10:04 PM ^
This unfairly excludes 4 loss teams with a real chance of winning it all. 24 team playoff!
December 1st, 2022 at 10:29 AM ^
Some deserving teams will be “on the bubble!”
November 30th, 2022 at 10:07 PM ^
So this year's first round games would have been...
Washington @ OSU
Utah @ Bama
K-State @ Rocky Top
Clemson @ Penn St
Nothing great but I'd still watch them all
November 30th, 2022 at 10:33 PM ^
Clemson at Penn State for a winter weather white out would be hilarious.
December 1st, 2022 at 12:07 AM ^
Don’t underestimate the CFP committees ability to adjust seeding to magically make most of the home games take place in the south.
I do think this change should coincide with some basic schedule requirements. All P5 conferences should have to play the same number of OOC/Conference games. No OOC games allowed in November. ND can play only ACC games in November.
December 1st, 2022 at 12:19 AM ^
Agree, except I have no problem with ND playing Big10 Foe USC in November
December 1st, 2022 at 6:14 AM ^
I don't. Let ND eat their decision to avoid the B1G at all costs. If that mean the date with USC needs to change to Sept or Oct, will then suck it up, ND (and USC).
December 1st, 2022 at 7:07 AM ^
I've been wondering about this....will USC keep ND on their schedule as an OOC game when they have to play Michigan, Penn State, Ohio State, UCLA in conference? Of course, this thread is about a 12-team playoff, so 3 losses won't auto-exclude you anymore. But still, that's a LOT of big games to get up for.
December 1st, 2022 at 7:57 AM ^
This was a random reason I was hoping Stanford would get a B1G invite... to potentially lock ND out of any compelling ($$) national game. Enjoy independence.
I'm sure there's still a good chunk of coin for USC to play ND, and despite new conference money, an AD can never have enough
December 1st, 2022 at 11:59 AM ^
Has it been confirmed that the first round games will take place home stadiums? Or will they just have some neutral site games in the north?
November 30th, 2022 at 10:34 PM ^
Much more interesting than the watered down bowl games we’ve been getting the past few years, where the best players sit out. This seems better for everybody.
November 30th, 2022 at 11:25 PM ^
Those would be some great on-campus matchups.
It does create an odd conflict-of-interest of sorts. The AD's would LOVE that extra home game that you get by NOT getting the bye. They want their teams to have the best chance at success of course by getting the bye, but they secretly wouldn't be too upset about getting one of those 1st round home games.
November 30th, 2022 at 11:36 PM ^
I'm assuming the process must somehow incentivize the top 4
December 1st, 2022 at 7:18 AM ^
Yeah, it's called a bye.
December 1st, 2022 at 12:03 AM ^
This why most of the writers & experts thinks it’s going to eventually lead to on campus games for every round except the final. It’ll also be really difficult for schools that make it most years to get their fans to pony up the money to go to potentially 4 different neutral site games within a 2 month period: conference title game, 2nd round game, semifinal, and final. It’ll be better for the fan experience once they’re all on-campus except for the final.
December 1st, 2022 at 7:14 AM ^
I believe in the 12 team playoff, the top 6 seeds go to highest ranked conference champs. Then the final six spots are at large. Assuming they take the highest ranked teams I believe the games would be
Utah@Clemson
K-State@Tulane
PennSt@OSU
Rockytop@Bama
horrible slate of games based on the current rankings a lot of this could change before Sunday.
December 1st, 2022 at 8:00 AM ^
Horrible is quite a stretch! The worst of the bunch would be an electric atmosphere at Tulane - sign me up for that
December 1st, 2022 at 8:10 AM ^
Horrible is a stretch. I was just disappointed with rematches.
December 1st, 2022 at 12:30 PM ^
I assume that (like the current CFP) they'd move things around so there are no rematches in the 1st round.
December 1st, 2022 at 8:21 AM ^
I'd gladly watch UW throw for 400+ on OSU.
November 30th, 2022 at 10:11 PM ^
I'll be honest. I don't like expansion of playoffs as much when we are the dominant B1G team team/garunteed participant. It is hypocritical and wrong but the thought of OSU crawling in after another whooping irritates me.
November 30th, 2022 at 10:13 PM ^
Root hard for USC.
2023 is another opportunity to ice OSU out.
We have no idea what 2024 will bring, so just start warming up to it.
November 30th, 2022 at 10:44 PM ^
I think 4 teams was just fine, and anything over 6-8 is just too much. I was reading some article today that described college football as having the most exciting regular season of any sport and also having the most anticlimactic postseason. I had never thought of that before, but I think I agree with it. The article argued the 12-team playoff will "fix" the anticlimactic postseason and make the sport better.
The thing is, I think part of the reason college football has such a great regular season is because the of the "anticlimactic" postseason. In a certain way, we already have a 12 team playoff -- we just call the early rounds "November." I was always neutral towards CFP expansion, but after this season, I'm very worried that the expanded playoff will dilute and cheapen the stakes that make the regular season so special. I hope that I'm wrong, but most of all, I hope that it's not too late to turn back if it turns out I'm right. A lot of powerful interests stand to make tons of money from the expanded playoff, and it could be very hard to go back to the way things are now.
November 30th, 2022 at 11:12 PM ^
FBS is the only division that doesn't have 16 team playoff. Others have 16-team playoffs but have a shorter regular season for this reason. It still doesn't cheapen the regular season since there's a conference title to play for and national seedings.
December 1st, 2022 at 1:21 AM ^
But very few people watch the other divisions, so the product the FBS division is putting out is "better" in that regard.
Comparing something that is working far better than what you're comparing it to and saying it should emulate the lesser is weird.