The Athletic Reporting that NCAA Infractions Include Analyst Coaching on Field

Submitted by Maizinator on January 5th, 2023 at 7:03 PM

The article is paywalled, so I'll just summarize key points about infractions:

1.  3 sources confirmed that one is for an analyst coaching players on the field
2.  primary source indicated one involves text messages that violated rules.

https://theathletic.com/4061987/2023/01/05/jim-harbaugh-nfl-michigan-2/

Catholepistemiad

January 5th, 2023 at 8:17 PM ^

Has the NCAA actually done anything here? I get the hate is baked in for most people at this point, but it sounds like all that's happened is Michigan reported some violations.

1VaBlue1

January 6th, 2023 at 8:47 AM ^

They're calling one of these "minor infractions" a Level 1 against the head coach.  That comes with serious penalties if it's enforced, possibly including a show cause.  And that ain't chopped liver...

The key phrase here, "if it's enforced", is the determining factor in Michigan's response.  If it is, then we should all go scorched Earth against the NCAA.  Given other situations the NCAA turned a blind eye to, I expect this will not be enforced.

bronxblue

January 5th, 2023 at 8:31 PM ^

Already saw the usual MSU and OSU goobers complaining how dirty UM is, which I guess is the closest thing to a victory they've had over the Wolverines in a minute.

I have noticed, at least in the Athletic's telling, that there will also be a discussion around how UM responded to the initial accusations.  So I guess that's something to keep an eye on.  I have gotten a bit annoyed with their coverage of Harbaugh recently, especially since it's becoming clearer that they may have blown some generalized statements but some sorta-close "sources" to Harbaugh out of proportions.  

TruBluMich

January 5th, 2023 at 8:40 PM ^

Already saw the usual MSU and OSU goobers complaining how dirty UM is...

Don't care what they think or if Michigan is actually breaking NCAA recommendations that the NCAA is masquerading around as rules.  There are teams breaking rules left and right, even with recordings.  The punishments include winning national titles and being told to not do it again.

Mich19

January 5th, 2023 at 9:08 PM ^

How terrible. I really wish we would have went the route of paying kids millions of dollars just to sign a piece of paper. Instead we’ve lowered ourselves to coaching them? The NCAA can’t be allowing that type of thing, and we will never recover from this.

 

 

Pardon my sarcasm. Who cares what they have to say. 

BleedThatBlue

January 5th, 2023 at 9:13 PM ^

Hypocrisy of the NCAA. Refs are blowing major calls in the playoffs and the season. A&M can pay 20 million to staff an entire team. Players coming out on current teams about being poached for millions of dollars. UNC and cokeville just sweep it under the rug. But, Michigan…didn’t report self violations accurately and ncaa wants to probe into it. Lol. 

I’m not particular for change, especially for football, but man, can I not wait for these conferences to come together and get rid of the NCAA. 
 

 

pescadero

January 6th, 2023 at 8:07 AM ^

"Hypocrisy of the NCAA. Refs are blowing major calls in the playoffs and the season. "

The NCAA has nothing to do with the refs. They're hired by the conferences, and for the post season by the bowls/CFP... both of which also AREN'T the NCAA.

The NCAA has no ability to DO anything to, or about, refs.

chezfeld

January 5th, 2023 at 9:14 PM ^

if bill self still has a job, and lsu/arizona got off with a light wrist slap, then these infractions disappoint me.  if multiple level 1 infractions basically go unpunished then what the hell are we doing only texting and having an analyst coach a player??   we can do better

uminks

January 5th, 2023 at 9:15 PM ^

I’m sure the ncaa will come down hard on us, since we are a good program. We will probably get banned from the playoffs of bowl games for a few years. Pathetic that SEC schools break all kind of rules with no punishments!

bronxblue

January 5th, 2023 at 10:59 PM ^

Steven Godfrey is apparently losing his mind with giddiness if my Twitter feed is to be believed.  He's in a tough spot, though, since he hates the NCAA hypocrisy but also bases about 56% of his football personality around making fun of Michigan sports because of their perceived sense of moral superiority, which is totally unique to just Michigan and no other fanbase in college football.

Michigan9

January 5th, 2023 at 9:24 PM ^

Recent memory shows your replay booth and officials violated the outcome of a college football game as well as the health and safety of the players on the field.

The replay booth and officials need to be mic’d during reviews.

uminks

January 5th, 2023 at 9:33 PM ^

Twitter is going crazy over this. Many are saying our penalty will be severe? For having an analyst instruct a player or 2? Talking death penalty? I call BS! NCAA will not do a thing but M could impose some penalties on themselves?

runandshoot

January 5th, 2023 at 9:56 PM ^

The ESPN writeup on it mentions potentially some sort of suspension for Harbaugh: "Sources told ESPN that Harbaugh's cooperation with NCAA enforcement staff during the investigation is also being examined. Harbaugh could face penalties that include a multigame suspension, sources said."

Honestly, Michigan should tell the NCAA to go pound sand with this bullshit.

Amazinblu

January 5th, 2023 at 10:29 PM ^

I don’t know if I should say this.   During one of our tailgates, we gave a couple bottles of water to the families of some players.  It was a hot day, and we didn’t think we were breaking any rules.  I hope this doesn’t result in scholarship reductions.

bronxblue

January 5th, 2023 at 10:37 PM ^

I'd love to know what Harbaugh said to provide "false or misleading information" around this whole situation.  I assume it was something pretty dumb and the NCAA didn't take too kindly to him being flippant about a bunch of minor violations while fucking Jimbo and Sark are openly tampering and whining about how they can't cheat as easily as they used to.

 

JoeDGoBlue

January 5th, 2023 at 10:37 PM ^

Nicole Auerbach is reporting that there is one Level 1 violation (the most serious level, scale is from 1 to 4) for Harbaugh lying to investigators. There are also four level 2 violations.  

bronxblue

January 5th, 2023 at 10:43 PM ^

They're "serious" in the sense that the NCAA thinks they're serious, not that they are actually serious in an objective sense.  The violation seemingly is that Harbaugh wouldn't cooperate with NCAA investigators and, frankly, I don't know why he would.  He's seen programs openly flaunt the rules and nothing happen to them so why would he help the NCAA investigators build a case that some defensive analyst talked to someone on the field or someone texted someone when they shouldn't have. 

Again, I'm all for following rules that protect the safety and welfare of the players and staff; protecting the NCAA's inflated ego that anyone gives a shit what they have to say isn't on that list.

SalvatoreQuattro

January 5th, 2023 at 10:48 PM ^

Level II aren’t really that serious. UM self-reported and NCAA classified team as limited in nature.

The charge against Harbaugh is indeed serious. Allegedly lying to investigators…eep. 
 

UM has grounds to fire him if they wanted to.(Nope)More likely, this may be what pushes him to the NFL. I can see Harbaugh being so fed up with rank hypocrisy of the NCAA that he decides to move on.

bronxblue

January 5th, 2023 at 10:56 PM ^

If Harbaugh leaves Michigan because the NCAA is mad he wouldn't rat out one of his coaches because they texted a kid or watched a livestream of a workout then I wouldn't be mad at him at all.  It would be the dumbest reason in the world why a coach would leave a program but if the NCAA is hell-bent on challenging FIFA for the title of most incompetent sports organization in the world I guess you gotta take big swings like this.

alum96

January 5th, 2023 at 10:46 PM ^

Holy smoke. Death penalty for the program???'

Meanwhile the SEC and Clemson goes off scott free for offering their church and engineering programs as sanctuaries for free $$$ the last 30 years.