one person likely to be around next year either way [Patrick Barron]

Post-Entry Outlook: Offense Comment Count

Brian January 19th, 2024 at 2:15 PM

A week and change on from the national title, attention now turns to the basketball program what Team 145 is going to look like. This may be an exercise in futility since there's a distinct chance that Jim Harbaugh takes an NFL job this offseason, throwing everything into a mild state of higgeldy-piggeldy. But they'd probably just plug in Sherrone Moore, avoid significant portal departures, and be more or less the same minus a predilection for weird press conferences.

So.

QUARTERBACK

Obviously the biggest question mark on the team in the aftermath of JJ McCarthy's draft entry. The options on campus do not feel like plugging in JJ McCarthy, to say the least. They are:

  • Jayden Denegal, a 6'4" pocket passer who was a high three star on the composite and got a reasonable amount of garbage time last year. He'll be a redshirt sophomore next year.
  • Davis Warren, a former walk-on who's looked solid in a couple of spring games but was hurt (probably) much of the year, ceding non-JJ snaps to Denegal.
  • Alex Orji, a Tebow-esque runner who got on the field for various snaps down the stretch where he always ran the ball. Michigan did dial up a pass for him in the Rose Bowl but 'Bama covered it and he ran out of bounds for a two yard loss.
  • Jadyn Davis, a true freshman who was a five star but has slid down recruiting boards to be a fringe top 100 prospect. Davis did join the team for bowl practices and has buckets of experience in high school.

In the season preview I asserted that the best case scenario for Michigan entering 2024 is that Orji was the clear frontrunner and I still maintain that because we have an indication he does have an elite skill. I'm not sure the Tebow/Denard offense can be a national title winner in the year of our lord 2024; neither am I sure Michigan can pivot a ton of option stuff that would be necessary. Even so: Orji has It on the ground, and I'm not sure anyone else can say they're there as a passer.

[After THE JUMP: loaded RB room… not so loaded WR room] 

RUNNING BACK

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[Bryan Fuller]

Donovan Edwards returns so this position is stacked. Kalel Mullings has looked the part both as a runner and a blocker. Ben Hall flashed as a freshman; Cole Cabana will return from injury; freshman Jordan Marshall was a straight-up head to head win over OSU and could be an immediate contributor.

Concerns: can Edwards be more consistent after a season that went nothing, nothing, nothing, a couple nice runs against Penn State, nothing, nothing, wins national title in the first quarter? Will Michigan explore the two-back sets featuring Mullings more? Will an expected step back in passing efficiency slow down the ground game? Etc. But the personnel will be great.

WIDE RECEIVER

The only other spot on next year's team that looks like a potential problem. Tyler Morris returns for his junior season and should be a locked-in #1. In the slot, Semaj Morgan looks like he'll be somewhere between fun and game-breaking once he shakes the freshman stuff.

Then… uh… it got kind of lonely around here. Darrius Clemons and Amorion Walker transferred—Walker spent last year at CB but was likely to move back to WR, per Sam Webb—and Cristian Dixon announced he'd be moving to defense. That leaves Michigan with no other experienced WRs unless scattered snaps for Peyton O'Leary count. The only other non-tiny WRs on the roster are the trio of redshirt freshmen Michigan brought in a year ago: Fredrick Moore, Karmello English, and Kendrick Bell. Neither true freshman looks like the kind of guy to defy Freshman Wide Receivers Suck.

I thought this looked like a situation that someone in the portal would say "hey, clear starting spot for defending national champion" and hop aboard but Michigan whiffed. Jahmal Banks committed to Nebraska, Deion Burks to Oklahoma, and Donaven McCulley returned to Indiana. Hope for reinforcements is not entirely lost—Josh Wallace was a crucial post-spring pickup last year—but the vast majority of portal movement has already come and gone.

Michigan can patch some of the holes with targets for Colston Loveland and Donovan Edwards.

TIGHT END

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[Barron]

Colston Loveland and Max Bredeson return and should be amongst the nation's best in their roles. The only TE with a run-blocking grade better than Bredeson last year was his teammate:

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Meanwhile Loveland was already up with Roman Wilson and Cornelius Johnson when it came to targets last year—mid-60s for all—and it wouldn't surprise to see Loveland hit triple digits unless it is indeed Orji, whereupon nobody is hitting triple digits.

This is Michigan so they're going to want a third guy, preferably a big inline sort. Marlin Klein, Josh Beetham, Deakon Tonielli, and Zack Marshall are options. I don't think it'll be Klein, who seems like a flex sort redundant with Loveland. Your guess is as good as anyone's.

OFFENSIVE LINE

Trente Jones's departure hurts. Other than McCarthy, everyone else who entered the draft was a stone-cold lock to do so from before the season. Many only had decisions to make because of COVID, and had been long-time starters on a national title team. Those guys don't hurt to lose. Jones, too, only had a decision to make because of COVID but I'd hoped that he saw a clear path to a full-time starting job and would want that both for personal satisfaction and his own draft status. Alas. I don't begrudge anyone their choice to leave; personally I wanted Jones in full flourish next year.

Also: now Michigan cannot run out a line of seniors, fifth-year seniors, and sixth-year seniors.

It seems pretty clear that the interior line will be Gio El-Hadi, Greg Crippen, and Northwestern transfer Josh Priebe. El-Hadi played about a third of the season in 2022 and was pretty good until he ran up against Jer'Zhan Newton; two years on he's a good bet to be a plug-and-play replacement for Trevor Keegan. Crippen sucked it up as Michigan imported back-to-back Rimington candidates in front of him but is clearly the heir apparent. You can read about Priebe in his hello post; he was third-team All Big Ten a year ago, perhaps a bit dubiously.

Tackle is slightly murkier but not a whole lot more. Myles Hinton does return for a sixth year after a season flashing a significant amount of promise, and a significant amount of falling over. He'd dropped to tackle #4 by the end of the season after Michigan clearly wanted him to seize the left tackle job early; he's one of the biggest swing guys on the team because he has massive potential.

The other tackle will probably be Jeff Persi or Andrew Gentry. Like El-Hadi, Persi played in 2022, getting a start against Rutgers. He was just a redshirt freshman then and was middling. Gentry has the recruiting pedigree and Michigan started talking about him like he was the next great tackle last offseason, checking one of our boxes: are they talking about you when they don't need to talk about you? My money is on Gentry.

A line of Hinton/El-Hadi/Crippen/Priebe/Gentry is all but a 100% reset but also looks like it could be one of those Alvarez Wisconsin era reboots where the guys have different names on their backs but are still monsters.

UPSHOT

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not just a funny name anymore [Bryan Fuller]

I have to admit this line of thought intrigues me:

You may remember the go-go from our UNLV preview:

[Brennan Marion] describes his offense like so:

“People say your offense is a spread offense,” Marion said. “It’s not even close to the spread in my mind. It’s a pro-style, triple-option offense. That’s what we’re trying to do. A true West Coast passing game, a triple-option run game and the up-tempo principles of Coach Malzahn.”

Sounds like a huge pain in the ass. I would not be surprised for Michigan to eat some garbage in this game. A more detailed breakdown of the offense can be found in Alex's post; for purposes of this section it's enough to know that the double-RB setup shown above is UNLV's base set and that they will go wildly unbalanced in an attempt to trip up your alignment rules, then throw in a blizzard of end-arounds, fake end-arounds, misdirections on top of that, and tempo. It kind of reminds me of the Mad Magicians. Personnel is almost beside the point, and we know very little about it anyway since we've got one game against Bryant to go on.

Michigan did not eat any garbage in that game because UNLV, like most of Michigan's nonconference opponents, just wanted to get out of there with a check and their playbook unrevealed. UNLV turned it on afterwards, spurring a remarkable turnaround. UNLV finished the 2022 season 96th in offensive SP+. Last year they were 32nd. Caveat: a large chunk of this is getting great play from freshman QB Jayden Maiava, who immediately decamped for Georgia.

Anyway: I do not think Michigan is going to import Marion and put two guys in the backfield on every play. I do think that the personnel on this offense lends itself to something like it. Default 21 personnel with Edwards and Mullings on the field together. Loveland alternates between inline and flanker. Morris is the only WR to see 80%+ of the snaps. Semaj Morgan runs so many jet and orbit motions that he wears ruts in the turf. Orji is a constant threat to keep it, there are perimeter run threats on every play, etc. I

If Orji doesn't work out Michigan is going to be operating with a pocket passer, a pretty good ground game, and what looks like very little vertical game-breaking ability, with apology to Tyler Morris's touchdown against Alabama. That feels like it has a hard ceiling, and rolling with What If Orji may not. I can't construct a mental model of a Denegal/Warren/Davis offense throwing to Tyler Morris and Question Mark that feels like hell on defenses. Orji running bash counter with Edwards the back does sound like hell.

Comments

rainking

January 19th, 2024 at 4:31 PM ^

Bredeson and Edwards in the backfield together, or Mullings and Bredeson, or any combination of them with Orji at the helm, will be a beeyotch of a running game. I like it!!! 

EGD

January 19th, 2024 at 4:33 PM ^

I’m personally hoping for Orji to win the starting job because I think his running ability gives M the best chance at having a really good offense. He needs to be at least respectable as a passer for that to happen. But “respectable” might be about as good as we can hope for. If one of the other QBs is a markedly superior passer, then M might do well to consider a genuine 2-QB rotation—at least for two-minute drills and so forth.

 

AlbanyBlue

January 19th, 2024 at 4:39 PM ^

Didn't Florida run an offense that was some kind of dual offense thing with Tebow - Chris Leak(?) That might work with Orji and Denegal.

Anyway, most of my thinking is still "let's find Cade 2.0 somehow and we can win the conference" but leaning into a post-2020 with Orji, Edwards, and Mullings intrigues me a little. Harbaugh would definitely see it as fun. I just don't know how workable it is against the good teams on our schedule.

That said, I'm still on-board with finding someone who can approximate what Cade did in 2021. I don't know if Denegal is that, but he might be. I think Tuttle probably is at least that, if he can get his waiver. (I guess unpopular opinion now but) I don't see Orji as enough of that to be workable. They let Denegal run pass plays. Orji's one pass play possibility was shut down and ended up as a loss. 

TL;DR Give Michigan a Cade-plus QB (Tuttle, transfer, or mayyyybe Denegal) and we can keep this thing competitive. 

Pai Mei

January 19th, 2024 at 5:32 PM ^

I really like the Edwards/Mulling/Hall backfield. 

 

Pumped for Hall...his brief action this year and spring game looks like has all the intangibles. 

Hensons Mobile…

January 19th, 2024 at 5:49 PM ^

I can't break my mind out of video game mode where you can just insert a completely different playbook and there's zero issue. It feels like there's so much potential and creativity with Orji/Mullings/Edwards/Semaj/Loveland. But it also seems like in reality it's not a great idea to go away from what our base has been.

MaynardST

January 19th, 2024 at 8:42 PM ^

If there is some sort of passing threat this could be a nice offense unless it is demoralized in practice by Michigan's incredible defense if Minter stays (assuming Harbaugh's brother doesn't grab Minter back for the Ravens if Macdonald gets a head coaching job somewhere).

ca_prophet

January 19th, 2024 at 9:04 PM ^

One does not simply portal in a competent QB post-spring and expect it to all work out.

Michigan would be looking for someone on the level of 2021 Cade McNamara - already polished, senior or experienced enough to pick up an offense in a hurry, but old enough to not give Davis cause to portal out.  Those people do not grow on trees, and without specifics I don't have confidence they'd be any better than the guys already here, with experience in the program and with their teammates.

Even if we were to get McNamara-2.0, who does he throw to?  Anyone that watched our 2023 offense knows that Loveland is our big receiving threat, and while the coaches can do some scheming it's a lot easier to account for him when they're not also worried about JJ throwing to Wilson or Johnson.

Finally, who will be coaching the QBs?  Without knowing that, it's hard to say anything about potential improvements or who might be enticed to portal in.

Saying that a portal QB would instantly give us a credible passing attack seems overly simplistic.  It might happen, but it's not a no-brainer.  If you're looking for hope on a passing attack, the pieces currently in place point to Denard-2.0, with 2021 as an aspirational goal (within reach, but not the floor).

 

Go Blue Beat T…

January 19th, 2024 at 9:20 PM ^

Put Domani Jackson opposite will johnson, slide mcburrows in (Mike told us to “stay tuned”) to the slot, and it probably won’t matter who starts at QB. If Tuttle is back he is likely the guy. Got some moxy and looks like he knows how to manage the game well which is all they’ll need to win in Columbus again. 
and apparently the NCAA is going after inducements now? I believe there was one televised with the non Gatorade player of the year from FL who still happens to be a highly ranked receiver going to a school somewhere in Ohio that used to be good at football fake signing his name until a check cleared.

college football has become a total mess. 

alum96

January 19th, 2024 at 11:15 PM ^

Just fucking go wishbone at this point.  No one is prepared to stop it.  Army/Navy on offense (or 70s Nebraska) and Michigan on defense.

Honestly 1 injury to WR 1 or WR 2 - can't even imagine that room.

RobSk

January 20th, 2024 at 1:57 AM ^

But they'd probably just plug in Sherrone Moore, avoid significant portal departures, and be more or less the same-

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This statement feels like almost irrational optimism. Sherrone Moore minus JH minus Minter minus JJ is more or less the same? 
 

With a qb who can’t throw? 
 

Maybe it happens but right now this sounds like a 5% likely best case outcome.

hajiblue

January 20th, 2024 at 6:17 PM ^

So it looks like 2021 part II, heavy run and game management pass game. I'm not worried about the big receiver void, that can easily be replaced by a TE. Settling on a OL combo early and getting them sufficient reps to gel is a big deal. After that it's road grating season. 

mtm

January 20th, 2024 at 6:28 PM ^

If Harbaugh leaves and Moore takes over, we’ll need a new OC. Why not bring over Brennan Marion? There have been a lot of HCs decamping for blue chip programs. I think given the holes on offense a repeat of ‘23 may be a lot to ask for. But at least you could put together something that would be really fun, and would at least repeat the “we have a hard time against Michigan because no one else plays like them” strategy.