Hello: Dusty May Comment Count

Brian March 24th, 2024 at 4:18 PM

The Search

Michigan was dead silent until May was announced during a hockey game I was very mad about. This was a surprise to the basketball world, which widely expected May to get hired by Louisville—historically a top-20 job. John Beilein reportedly met with May, along with Warde Manuel, and was able to sell him on Michigan relative to a very good program.

This space has had a lot of Warde Manuel complaints over the last few years but I have to give it up here: they picked up the leading candidate of the cycle almost immediately after he was available and snaked the guy out from under Louisville. A+.

Now, about that candidate:

Background

Well, if you were looking for the exact opposite of a guy who had a 17-year NBA career, this is it: May's college career is 404 File Not Found. He was a student manager under Bobby Knight at Indiana, then went into various analyst roles his first few years after college before landing an assistant gig at Eastern Michigan. He quickly climbed the ladder, going from EMU to Murray State to UAB to Louisiana Tech. There he was retained by Mike White after he took over for Kerry Rupp and quickly became his right hand; he followed White to Florida.

May jumped to FAU after three years, and it's encouraging that his departure seemed to have a deleterious effect on White's tenure. After an NIT year one, Florida went to the Elite Eight in year two, finishing second in the SEC at 14-4. In year three they were 11-7 in the league and a six seed. Those teams ranked 5th and 22nd in Kenpom, respectively.

White's teams slowly deteriorated after May left. White never had a top 25 team again; after May left they went 26, 32, 41, and 59 before White was shown the door.

[After THE JUMP: resume, recruiting, analytics, the near future]

Resume

May's tenure at FAU is the final six dots here.

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May's at Michigan largely because he took a program that had a total of two top 200 Kenpom finishes since 1997 and put up back-to-back top 50 years, with a Final Four run in 2023. It is difficult to overstate how blah Florida Atlantic has been for decades. Prior to May's arrival they had one bid in their D-1 history, which dates back to 1993. That was a 15 seed in 2002.

May took over for former Piston Michael Curry, who had back-to-back 6-12 conference records, and immediately posted the best Florida Atlantic team ever, per Kenpom. After idling around .500 the next two years he posted a 19-15, 11-7 CUSA season that was #129 to Kenpom. May explained this lull on a Rich Eisen Show appearance embedded below: he inherited three players and imported a bunch of grad transfers in year one, so he had to kind of start over in year two.

Then, the blowup. FAU posted a 35-4 season, beating Florida in the nonconference and easily winning a very good edition of CUSA with two other top-50 teams (UAB and North Texas). They won the CUSA tournament with three straight blowouts, edged by Kenpom #20 Memphis in the first round of the tournament, got lucky to draw Fairleigh Dickinson after the second 16-vs-1 upset ever, and then beat #6 Tennessee and #21 Kansas State to reach the Final Four, where they lost to #14 San Diego State by one point.

Florida Atlantic ran it back this year and while they dropped off slightly, they beat Butler, A&M, Virginia Tech and Arizona in the nonconference schedule while moving up to the American. They got an eight seed in the tourney and lost to Northwestern in OT. May was clearly going to be somewhere else after this season, but it's worth noting that he was willing to come back this year, confident that FAU was not a flash in the pan. This was not an out-of-left field run by a team that got an easy draw; FAU beat three top-25 teams to reach the Final Four and was a buzzer-beater away from playing for the national title.

Meanwhile, the "took mid-major to Final Four" track record is pretty dang good:

Jury's still out on Moser. Everyone else on that list is a very good basketball coach. Crean is probably the worst name on that list and he has two Big Ten titles at perennial also-ran Indiana.

Roster Construction

Perhaps the most impressive part of May's run at Florida Atlantic is how much of his roster was developed at FAU. This year's Owls are is #1 in Kenpom's "minutes continuity" stat, which measures how similar your playing rotation is to last year's. That might be expected since FAU went to the Final Four and everyone decided to run it back, but the team that went to the Final Four was 26th. May developed this team in Boca Raton.

Just three players in his rotation this year were transfers, and May can take a large part of the credit for two of them. Center Vladislav Goldin left Texas Tech after a freshman year where he barely played; over the last three years he's evolved from a middling rotation guy (18 MPG, 109 ORTG, 21% usage) to a legit star (24 MPG, 126 ORTG, 26% usage). Brian Greenlee also barely played in his one year at Minnesota; he's not a great offensive player but has been a four-year starter for a steadily improving team.

Guard Jalen Gaffney is the only player May had during this run who was a plug and play transfer. He came over after three years at UConn where he was a rotation guy on a couple of top-25 UConn teams. And May did not exactly rely on Gaffney: unusually for a down-transfer, his usage plummeted. He's been at 13% in his two years at FAU.

The rest of this roster came to FAU out of high school.

Recruiting

Ask again later. At FAU's level recruiting rankings more or less don't exist. Johnell Davis, FAU's star, was not ranked by 247. Only a couple high school recruits on the roster actually drew a 247 ranking. White's first two classes at Florida consisted of a four-man class ranking between 116 and 203 on 247 that ranked #21 nationally and a three-man class with #20 Andrew Nembhard, #82 Keyontae Johnson, and #107 Noah Locke that was 19th. (Variable class sizes make overall recruiting class rankings nearly meaningless in basketball.) Nembhard was at Montverde and Johnson at Oak Hill, so May has some experience going after big recruits at basketball factory high schools. Locke, meanwhile, is a guy Florida yoinked away from one John Beilein—Locke visited Flordia two weeks after a Michigan visit and committed a few days later.

One signal we do have is May's ability to grab Gaffney out of the portal. A guy who'd been a rotation piece for a top-25 team was likely in high demand at the mid-major level, and May was able to grab him coming off a 19-15 season that was an improvement for FAU but not exactly indicative of a pending Final Four run.

Also, this can't hurt:

His rapid tour of Michigan, Kentucky, Alabama, Louisiana, and Florida as an assistant will hopefully mean he's got a diverse set of connections.

Vibes

May with Rich Eisen last year:

Here's some video of May teaching closeouts if you want a feel for what he's like:

I haven't seen anyone say anything remotely negative about him personally; instead, the opposite:

When Matt Norlander asked coaches in the tourney who their favorite artists are, he responded with "Rod Wave," drawing disbelief:

I do not know who Rod Wave is. I also do not know who "Lil Durk"—Hubert Davis's pick—is.

Here is a small child being serenaded by the FAU locker room:

I'd say the vibes are good.

What To Expect

May's teams have some fingerprints you can glean from the statistics:

  • Lots of made threes. Not quite Beilein level but this is the first year of May's six at FAU that the Owls have not been in the top 100 in three-pointers attempted. They were top 100 in 3P% three of the last four years, backsliding to 121 this year.
  • Lots of made twos. Top 50 the last three years.
  • Lots of good shots. The last two years FAU was 98th percentile in the proportion of catch and shoot opportunities that Synergy filed as "unguarded." The previous two: 79th and 95th. Even the pre-breakout FAU teams took a ton of open shots.
  • Relatively few long twos. Three of the last four years they've been around 50th in long twos attempted—by that I mean 50th fewest long twos. The outlier was the Final Four year, when they were 9th. May's teams aren't quite as rim-or-three oriented as, say, Nate Oats, but they're not far off. This year they were 15th percentile taking jumpers out to 17 feet and 8th percentile taking long jumpers; last year they were 6th and 7th.
  • Relatively plentiful long twos for opponents. Same deal: around 50th three of the last four years and popping up to 21st for the Final Four run.
  • Limited easy shots for opponents. This year FAU was 2nd percentile(!!!) in catch and shoot attempts allowed, 98th percentile at forcing jumpers off the bounce, and 99th(!) percentile at forcing runners. Those numbers are virtually identical to last year. They were 20th and 12th percentile in shots at the rim. 
  • Defensive assist avoidance. IE, how many of the opponents' baskets are assisted. May's teams were top 5 nationally the last two years and have been inside the top 100 every year except his first.

This is great. May's teams are forcing opponents into the toughest shots in basketball and getting tons of open looks themselves. That is traceable back to coaching, especially since these trends started before FAU blew up into a top 50 program.

The Immediate Future

Michigan's current roster is Terrance Williams, Nimari Burnett, Will Tschetter, and Jace Howard. Durral Brooks and Christian Anderson remain committed. (247's Davis Moseley said that he expects Brooks to stick and Burnett to stay, FWIW.) This is a considerably insufficient number of basketball players. Michigan will look to supplement in various ways:

  • FAU's top three players—Davis, Goldin, and Alijah Martin—all have a COVID year left and could come over as grad transfers. Since they were willing to run it back with May after the final four run when any and all could have up-transferred for NIL money, I'd imagine there's a good chance all three decide to take a run at the Big Ten.
  • May is likely to be on the phone with Tarris Reed and George Washington about returning. Dug McDaniel, too, but since a lot of people expected him to leave even if Howard was retained that seems like a long shot.
  • FAU has three guards committed—novel idea to have more than one guard on a roster—and one or more could decide to follow May. Elijah Elliott is the highest-rated at #185, so all are likely to be developmental prospects.
  • May could try to pick off players committed to other schools who have recently undergone a coaching change, a la Caris Levert. The lack of major jobs open this year—and OSU deciding to go with an assistant—means the top-100-ish pickings will be slim. Liam McNeeley decommitted from Indiana and says he'll go through a whole recruiting process, there's also, well, Khani Rooths. Those are both unlikely, but LeVert was committed to Ohio. There are gems down in the hinterland of the rankings and May seems adept at finding them.
  • And then there's The Portal Writ Large. May has not emphasized the portal but hasn't been a teetotaler about it, and given the distinct Year Zero vibe of the current roster he'll likely have to go find some guys. His experience walking into three guys his first year at FAU will be helpful here.

The other open question is who May will tap as his assistants. He's likely to bring in some or all of his FAU guys, but schools at FAU's level often go with an internal promotion after they lose a successful coach. If he has an opening May could take a shot at an assistant who's been at the high major level a long time for recruiting purposes, and if Beilein's involved with the program he will probably suggest that May look at Saddi Washington, Lavall Jordan, and Luke Yaklich. That, too, is a rumor that's out there: Beilein may return in an administrative capacity. 

Etc.: Deal is five years, 3.75 million per.

Comments

Blue Ninja

March 24th, 2024 at 6:00 PM ^

The more I learn about May the more excited I get about this hire. Just hoping he is able to put together some kind of roster that can work. I also have been critical of Warde and have to say that he surprised me with this one. Not that he hired May but in the speed with which he did it, that tells me had had done his homework and had his ducks lined up. 

DiploMan

March 24th, 2024 at 6:08 PM ^

Having been an IU grad student during prime Knight years ('87-90) I only hope he didn't pick up any Bob Knight personality traits along the way.  Although the positive character reviews suggest he didn't.

KBLOW

March 24th, 2024 at 6:28 PM ^

There is no way any of our current players have ever been coached (or be made to practice) how to do close-outs like on that video. 

charblue.

March 24th, 2024 at 6:53 PM ^

I would like to see Beilein coming back to the program in some capacity. Not expecting overnight program success under May's management.

But improvement in key areas of the game like defense, turnover avoidance and ball possession appreciation would signal that. When you value the ball and possession of it, it naturally leads to respect for other areas of the game that directly impact winning. 

JBurd

March 25th, 2024 at 4:37 AM ^

Agreed on the advisory role. I don’t want Dusty to feel like he’s being undervalued or that he can’t put his own stamp on the program (with a program legend coach constantly looking over his shoulder). But him being available to advise in situation's that Dusty may not have experienced at smaller programs or picking his brain about basketball philosophy or assistant coaching hires could be very useful.

Dusty seems to have an eye for talent similar to Beilein’s so maybe Beilein could do some GM type stuff like scouting.

JBurd

March 25th, 2024 at 4:48 AM ^

Kinda depends how the separation really went down. If it was Warde blaming Sanderson for what happened and saying that he is going to be let go because of it the ship has probably sailed. 

If Warde told him: “Hey coach Sanderson you’ve been an important part of this program for a long time I understand your frustration. This season has been rough. I understand that tempers can flare in that environment. If you feel that it’s in your best interest we can give you a payout and we can go our separate ways.” 

Then I think there could be a window for Beilein to help bring him back into the fold. That is of course if Dusty doesn’t already have his own guy that he is comfortable with.

His son is a top 50 recruit in the country out of Saline high school and it would be extremely painful to have to watch him play 4 years at Illinois.

umfan83

March 24th, 2024 at 7:06 PM ^

Am I crazy/have a delusional perception of Michigan basketball's status?  Don't get me wrong, I know football will always be king here and by a pretty big amount.  But I also don't think basketball is an afterthought here.  Reading some of the reaction from non-Michigan fans, they make it seem like May chose Michigan to hide out in a land of no expectations and anonymity.  One Louisville fan rationalized "well May doesn't have to worry about NC expectations at Michigan, just win 20 games and you are ok".  Has Michigan not made 2 title games in the past 11 years?  Did Michigan not just fire a coach - a legacy star player of yesteryear no less, just 2 seasons after a Sweet 16 appearance?

Basketball will never be as big here as it is at Louisville, but I still see the Michigan job as a top 20 job, and I still see the minimum expectations for the program being to be a top half of the conference team that makes the tourney more often than not with a few deep runs a decade.  I still see a fanbase that cares a hell of a lot about their basketball team, especially when football season is over.  But maybe I'm the delusional one.

Anyways, amazing hire.  Glad May bought into the program and school.  Looking forward to seeing how he turns this around!

Hensons Mobile…

March 24th, 2024 at 7:46 PM ^

I've been a little confused about this reaction from Louisville as well. Like, exactly how much higher do they think their standard is?

Pitino left the program in disarray with the sanctions and they handed it to a 33-year-old assistant and had him coach the entire year as interim. He went 22-14 (9-9 ACC) and went to the NIT. That was all they wanted to see and he was gone.

Fine, I guess, they didn't get to do a real coaching search before.

Enter Chris Mack.

Year 1: NCAAs
Year 2: 24-7 (15-5 ACC)--no tournament due to Covid
Year 3: 13-7 (8-5 ACC)--I guess their schedule was more impacted by Covid than ours; they decline the NIT
Year 4: 13-19 (6-14 ACC)--you're fired

Enter Kenny Payne. He won 12 games in two years. You're fired.

Mack's trajectory is pretty similar to Howard's really. They had an incredibly short leash with Payne, but he was also particularly bad. I hope we don't find out what happens if our new coach only wins 12 games in two years. I know the seat would at least be hot in year 3. I know I personally am preaching patience with May, but you do have to show some signs of life.

So, in other words, I think this is just cope from Louisville. We actually do care a lot about basketball. Just because they don't care about football doesn't mean they love basketball more.

colonel

March 24th, 2024 at 8:03 PM ^

If Louisville fans are describing the expectations at Michigan as less onerous -- the focus isn't on the national championship -- then they are more or less correct. We are a football first school, and our expectations for basketball are exactly as you describe them. We don't expect to be a national contender every year (as if any program in modern college basketball can get to that status). We want to be competent, finish in the top half of the conference year in and year out, and make a run to the Sweet 16 or deeper maybe once a recruiting cycle.

The hole I see in the suggestion of this Louisville fan is perhaps what you are getting at. There is no such thing as a major-conference program that consistently wins 20+ games that is not also in contention for a national title at least occasionally. A coach good enough to win twenty games every year is also, now and again, going to have a team that wins thirty games and goes to the Final Four. To your point, that kind of coach is what Michigan fans expect to have. 

I would also add that the appeal of Michigan for Dusty May probably involves national contention. I suspect he has made the move because he has a love for B1G basketball (he grew up with it, right?) and because he figures he can get over the top at Michigan. He's probably gone as far as he could reasonably expect to go at FAU, but at Michigan, he can win the whole damn thing.     

njvictor

March 24th, 2024 at 10:53 PM ^

I think Louisville is definitely an Tier 1 job, while Michigan is probably in Tier 2. We have our pros and our cons compared to Louisville. While they have better NIL support and less admissions issues, they also have higher standards and demanding boosters. Michigan has less NIL support, high admissions standards, but you also probably have more time to methodically build a team

RobM_24

March 24th, 2024 at 11:32 PM ^

Maybe my view is skewed because I grew up during Pitino Louisville, but I always put Louisville in the same tier as Kentucky in terms of expectations to win it all. And those expectations are more demanding than Michigan's.

For example, we still praise Beilein who never won it all, while Kentucky wants to boot Calipari. If Beilein made the tournament every year, he was never getting fired. Calipari does make it every year, and they want him gone bc he's not winning it all. Maybe Louisville's expectations have dropped post-Pitino, but I always thought UL used UK as their benchmark (similar to how UM and OSU size each other up in football).

 

A Lot of Milk

March 24th, 2024 at 7:33 PM ^

I’m praying to God they were smart enough to include anti-Indiana contract language to dissuade him from going back to his alma mater if he’s successful here. Indiana will throw an absolute bag at him and he’ll be inclined to take it, so Michigan better cover their asses to keep from getting poached by a conference rival basketball school

lhglrkwg

March 24th, 2024 at 8:13 PM ^

I am significantly more hyped about this hire than I was initially. Doesn’t seem like the last 2 years were a total fluke or a lucky roster construction. The roster building and the finding who dat guys is very reminiscent of Beilein. This looks like an awesome hire

Bill22

March 24th, 2024 at 8:36 PM ^

If you’re questioning the Dusty May hire, which most are not, take a look at where Louisville is left.

https://www.si.com/college/louisville/basketball/2024-coach-hot-board-30

Not a great list of top candidates: Amir Abdur-Rahim, Mick Cronin, Jamie Dixon, Shaheen Holloway, Pat Kelsey, Eric Musselman, Shaka Smart

Some of those names are probably not even realistic (Shaka Smart lol).  Let’s be glad we got this guy.  I am!

maizedNblued

March 24th, 2024 at 8:52 PM ^

Not sure all the noise about May being the #1 target - I was not too big on the hire but if Beilein is part of it then I’ll open up to the idea - hoping it works out - PLEASE GET BACJ TO TEACHING FUNDAMENTALS AND HAVE AN OFFENSIVE STRUCTURE.

MadMatt

March 25th, 2024 at 12:58 PM ^

I think we have to reevaluate our opinion of Warde. A lot of the hate was based on the assumption he would keep Howard (and his mishandling of the hockey situation, and NIL follies).

Now, he has avoided a mistake with MBB, and made a good hire. Given that, and the 100% correct retention of Harbaugh after 2020 (which some sports commentators are citing as perhaps a good example for Kentucky with Calipari), it seems to me he's bringing more good than bad.

At minimum, he deserves praise for this decision.