Video of Draymond Green throwing sucker punch
October 7th, 2022 at 10:57 AM ^
Draymond finally found a '3' he could hit.
October 7th, 2022 at 11:00 AM ^
One should define sucker punch based on the expectation of the receiver of the punch, not what one thinks his expectations should have been. In this case, Poole was 100% not expecting that swing, and therefore it’s a sucker punch. He was defenseless and looking away. Now, you can argue that Poole was naive to put himself in a defenseless position against this jackass, but that’s a different conversation.
October 7th, 2022 at 11:06 AM ^
I agree that Poole probably should have expected something dealing with this unhinged idiot, but I'm sure something similar happened in other practices and it didn't lead to this.
October 7th, 2022 at 11:02 AM ^
If this is the rec league, that's nothing less than an assault.
How on earth do you keep him on the team? Poole probably has to go if they won't run Draymond out of there, and the market value for Poole is higher now.
October 7th, 2022 at 11:03 AM ^
Steve Kerr once got punched by Michael Jordan in Bulls training camp (broke his nose, I think). Common denominator.
October 7th, 2022 at 12:04 PM ^
Kerr and Michael Jordan went at it all the time in practice. That's why Jordan liked him. I saw a practice clip (I think part of it was in The Last Dance) where Kerr said something along the line of "Don't call me a MF'er" and Jordan flexes up to Kerr and says "MF'er, I'll call you a MF'er whenever I MFing want, MF'er."
October 7th, 2022 at 11:08 AM ^
He should be kicked off the team for this - addition by subtraction. That's an egregious assault of a teammate. And it's on top of egregious on court behavior over many years. I used to think his play might outweigh his character issues but that's no longer the case.
October 7th, 2022 at 11:11 AM ^
The story had been discussed as a possible one (pre)game suspension for Green, so I assumed it was some sort of open handed baby-slap. That video is nuts!
This wasn't two guys in the heat of the moment squaring up, and one actually decides to push the button and throw a punch. Green is the aggressor, invading Poole's space who clearly makes the push just to get Green off of him. After the push Poole's hands are down and even appears to be turning his head away from Green (who has about 4inches and 50 pounds on him). Draymond hits him flush with a right cross that would make Kermit Washington blush. How Poole escaped without a fractured jaw, broken orbital, concussion, or some combination thereof is astounding.
I understand its pro sports, winning/$$$ over everything, etc. But even in that context how, how are the Warriors not seriously considering a quarter season suspension or more? How could Poole ever step on the same court as that chump again without a massive public apology? Or the rest of his teammates for that matter? Poole is far more valuable to the Warriors than that washed up trash, and the team's first reaction is to treat this as Draymond gonna Draymond? If I were Poole I'd want to see Joe Lacob show some serious backbone here or I'd be lawyering the fuck up.
October 7th, 2022 at 11:25 AM ^
Bob Meyers, the day before the video came out. Are you serious?? Oh, wait, Jordan was 'in the room' when Draymond apologized?? I didn't realize that. Must be all good.
"Look, it's the NBA," said Myers. "It's professional sports. These things happen. Nobody likes it, we don't condone it, but it happened. Draymond apologized to the team this morning. Jordan was there in the room. I was there in the room, the team, the coaches, players, and we heard that.
"As far as any suspension, punishment, fine, we're going to handle that internally."
October 7th, 2022 at 11:48 AM ^
I'm sure Poole likes playing in GSW but if they really mishandle this I assume he'll walk at the end of the year.
October 7th, 2022 at 4:27 PM ^
And then hopefully goes to their top competition and becomes a thorn in their side.
October 7th, 2022 at 11:12 AM ^
that was bad
October 7th, 2022 at 11:14 AM ^
This wasn't an NFL training camp fight where there is hard physical contact on every play and the players get into it with helmets and pads on. Fights are hard to avoid in that situation and they're almost expected sometimes. This seemed really trashy. It was a deadball during practice and he went right up and instigated it. This goes beyond team fight and almost looks like a crime.
October 7th, 2022 at 11:16 AM ^
Wow! While the incident sounded bad, it actually looked worse than it sounded.
October 7th, 2022 at 11:16 AM ^
Draymond is and always will be a cheap shot artist. When he's 80, he'll yank the walker out from under residents in his retirement home.
October 7th, 2022 at 11:17 AM ^
I know it's fun to make the sharty guy look worse. But that wasn't a sucker punch. And Poole pushed him first. Ridiculous to throw that punch at your teammate regardless, but yeah. Poole should've had his guard up.
October 7th, 2022 at 11:43 AM ^
Congrats! You have the worst take of the day.
October 7th, 2022 at 11:44 AM ^
He's Green's teammate and basically shoved him to get away from a confrontation. Expecting a guy who you've played with for a couple of years to punch you in the face as you back away is the opposite of what normal people should expect, though i guess with Draymond expecting normal human behavior isn't a given.
I'm sure Poole was talking shit but there's no reason to expect a guy to punch you in that situation.
October 7th, 2022 at 11:48 AM ^
Putting your guard up in that situation is would be like an invitation to fight. True that Poole pushes Green to get him out of his space, but then starts to back off with his hands down. And Green even pauses for a beat before the attack. Nobody would anticipate a "teammate" (even Draymond) to start throwing haymakers at that moment.
October 7th, 2022 at 11:56 AM ^
That's definitely a sucker punch. His arm was down and he lunged forward and stuck his fist out and connected. If you don't know someone is about to punch you, it's a sucker punch.
October 7th, 2022 at 12:09 PM ^
I bet I know your hot take on the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
October 7th, 2022 at 12:17 PM ^
This is a RCMB worthy take.
October 7th, 2022 at 12:53 PM ^
Nah most of you guys are just soft AF and Green coming from a rival school fuels the takes further.
Nobody is justifying the punch. It was uncalled for. People calling for lawsuits and jail time is a bit much. Poole escalated the altercation by pushing Green and Green took it way too far with the punch.
October 7th, 2022 at 1:01 PM ^
You know you can say "fuck" around here.
Here's an example - this is a fucking insane take and actively misreads the entire situation. Yes, nobody is going to file a lawsuit or go to jail but "Poole escalated the altercation by pushing Green" is an extremely weird way of viewing one guy going chest-to-chest with someone and the other guy pushing him away because he doesn't want to deal with him. If you want to argue the semantics of your own personal definition of "sucker punch" go for it but save me the escalation talk when one guy is actively trying to generate space between two people and the other guy comes at him twice.
October 7th, 2022 at 1:08 PM ^
I honestly don't curse much so AF is fine for me.
IDK what part of the Bronx you're from, but 2-hand shove someone in the chest like that and 9 times out of 10 there's a fight coming. My take isn't anymore "insane" than alot of the other takes here are soft.
And yes, people here are saying Poole should "lawyer up". Probably ones who never played a team sport.
October 7th, 2022 at 1:35 PM ^
This was a professional basketball practice, not some dirty-ass alleyway in the fucking Bronx.
If you grew up playing team sports where your teammates regularly cold-cocked you in the face, that's really fucked up and has obviously had an incredibly toxic effect on your personality.
October 7th, 2022 at 2:52 PM ^
Nothing builds camaraderie and team chemistry quite like punching your teammates in the fucking mouth when they don't expect it.
Although on second thought, it seemed to work for he Jackass boys...
October 7th, 2022 at 4:38 PM ^
Watch the video. Poole doesn't even move Draymond with the push. He moves himself backwards away from Draymond creating space between them. How the fuck is that escalating the situation after Draymond chest bumps him and gets in his face.
October 7th, 2022 at 12:38 PM ^
Wtf?! He pushed him in order to back away. He was retreating in a defensive posture! Green gets chest to chest with Poole and Poole does what he has to do in a “get off me” fashion.
”Poole pushed him first”. Holy fuck. What happened before that?
October 7th, 2022 at 11:17 AM ^
Triple Single
October 7th, 2022 at 11:33 AM ^
Green is washed up, Poole is the future. No wonder Steph Curry took his side on this one.
October 7th, 2022 at 11:42 AM ^
That's absolutely a cheap shot at a guy (Poole) who definitely didn't think he was in a fight. It does jive with Green's approach, though, which is to hit people on his terms and usually when they're unprotected. The number of nut shots he's taken at guys alone is pretty telling.
October 7th, 2022 at 11:55 AM ^
Yeah, that's a sucker punch where I reside (D.C.). Hands down, head to the side, not expecting an actual altercation...Jordan wasn't really trying to injure him with that push; looked like more of a "just get out of my face" type of de-escalation attempt from his end.
He's a better teammate that I would ever be if he could let that slide. Draymond put his weight behind/leaned waaaay into that punch.
October 7th, 2022 at 12:01 PM ^
This is practice - and, they are on the same team. Correct?
Nothing but Spartan class shining through.
October 7th, 2022 at 12:04 PM ^
The way Poole falls backward after the punch makes me wonder if he was knocked out and/or concussed by the punch. If either of those happened it's even worse than it looks on first viewing.
October 7th, 2022 at 12:07 PM ^
Draymond skipping the line to speak to the supervisor
October 7th, 2022 at 12:12 PM ^
I'd be lawyering up if I was Jordan.
Draymond probably thinks he's some tough guy, but all he is is a 10 year old boy who can't control his emotions. I'm glad this got leaked
October 7th, 2022 at 12:17 PM ^
Wow I wasn't expecting a powerful fully loaded punch. Luckily it probably didn't catch Poole Flush. What a peice of shit. The teammates nonchalant response to break it up shows me they might be Team Draymond or they just don't care for Poole. I hope Draymond is dealt accordingly by GS.
Edit
After further review looks flush as hell. Jordan has a jaw if he ate that and finished practice. But this shit is serious and concussions are nothing to play with and can have consequences later on.
October 7th, 2022 at 12:21 PM ^
I think even they were surprised the moron went there.
October 7th, 2022 at 12:54 PM ^
What’s throwing me off is the guy in the gray sweatshirt with his hands on his hips. No urgency, so surprise, no visible reaction…just “here we go with this shit again”.
October 7th, 2022 at 12:29 PM ^
Love how the team tried to dismiss this as a minor "team matter" that wouldn't lead to a suspension. These pro teams never fucking change. Suspend this Sharty for a month.
October 7th, 2022 at 12:49 PM ^
Ah, Draymond....the triple single.
I lol when anyone compares him to Dennis Rodman or Ben Wallace as a great undersized defender. He's a good, not elite help defender, and gets owned on the perimeter by anyone with a handle. He is, admittedly, a good passer for a power forward and the system they run.
His entire career and paydays are due to playing with the greating shooting duo ever (Steph and Klay) and for the best run franchise in the league. Dude even managed to run off one of the top 3 players in the league (Durant) - and no matter what you think about KD, he's worth the drama as those 2 championships with Golden State proved.
Draymond is a typical Sparty bully/front runner. With the emergence of Poole and these youngster offensively for GS and most importantly - Wiggins as a 2 way player - Draymond knows his days are numbered. GS can trade for a much cheaper "enforcer" if needed - something much less important in the modern NBA
October 7th, 2022 at 12:50 PM ^
He had to punch him, Jordan would have been anticipating the kick in the nuts from Draymond.
October 7th, 2022 at 1:00 PM ^
i mean, he did push him. justifiably, obviously, but still.
i'm just surprised that he got out with his nuts (apparently) intact, dray being dray.
October 7th, 2022 at 1:36 PM ^
Pray tell, what should Poole have done in that situation when an aggressive asshat in in his face?
Man, the takes in this thread apologizing for Green are unbearably bad.
October 7th, 2022 at 2:20 PM ^
edited to indicate my lack of interest.
October 7th, 2022 at 2:40 PM ^
Saying Poole should have been ready after the shove isn’t taking Draymonds side. It’s stating the obvious.
We all hate Draymond some just see it different than you.
October 7th, 2022 at 1:02 PM ^
Not that it is a reason or defensible, but has anyone else heard that Poole is acting a bit entitled thinking that he has a huge contract extension coming up? Saw that reported a couple different places
October 7th, 2022 at 1:16 PM ^
I mean the nba is rife with underhanded rumor mongering, spin by PR and communications people and agents in cahoots with journalists, but I heard that came out after the incident and was seen as a Draymond-friendly reporter putting that out there. But who knows ~shrug
edit: the rumor comes from a tweet by journo Chris Haynes, who is a Klutch (Draymond's agency) mouthpiece. Kerr, Curry and Iggy have come out to refute Haynes' insinuation about Poole's supposed attitude.
Curry:
That specific tweet that was insinuating JP's attitude has changed since training camp or whatever time length that they're talking about...it's absolute BS. Andre addressed it yesterday with his tweet. JP's been great. There's nothing that warranted the situation yesterday. Horrible when speculation becomes opinion and becomes borderline fact of what actually happened. I hate that that became part of the narrative. It's not fair to JP.
October 7th, 2022 at 1:37 PM ^
Sounds like Stephen A Shitface hot taek, not an actual report from an actual journalist who did actual investigation and spoke to actual people.