*Report: NCAA Situation [partially?] Resolved; No More Games for Harbaugh [TBD], No Recruits for First Two Games [apparently confirmed]
Angelique is reporting in The Detroit News (remainder of summary redacted).
CORRECTION: Angelique's story was about the loss of two recruiting weekends, not a resolution to the NCAA bullshit. - LSA
[* I went back in and tweaked the title to reflect the apparent current state of the situation. I would recommend taking anything and everything with a grain of salt until we see an official announcement from the Michigan Athletic Department - rob f]
August 29th, 2023 at 3:30 PM ^
I’m going to watch a game at the Jug just to find out.
August 29th, 2023 at 3:31 PM ^
If he's not the coach that day, does that mean rules regarding visits and contact don't apply?
August 29th, 2023 at 6:39 PM ^
I grill burgers at our tailgate. Just let me know how many more to buy for the prospects and Coaches Harbaugh and Moore. We’re close to the stadium.
August 29th, 2023 at 2:38 PM ^
Great resolution. This is done and we can put it behind us. The NCAA knew this wasn't going to end well for them but it also allowed us to negate any risk of further penalties.
August 29th, 2023 at 2:39 PM ^
how to view sans subscription:
- use a search engine like swisscows that you should be using anyway
- paste the title, or even the hyperlink itself, into the engine
- or just type it out. if you're like really needing practice.
- in this case "Michigan won't be able to host football recruits for the first two games"
- then select "preview" on your search results
or just click here in this particular case and hit preview (NB there will occasionally be an annoying black box that may hide a sentence or two)
August 29th, 2023 at 2:41 PM ^
NCAA: FOUR GAMES IS NOT SUFFICIENT WE MUST HOIST HARBAUGH ON HIS OWN PETARD
Also NCAA: WELP, okay, fine, three games. Never mind.
August 29th, 2023 at 3:20 PM ^
After the NCAA crapped their pants yesterday when Harbaugh blasted oxygen on the revenue-sharing embers, they backed down within 24 hours. Just like the punk bitches they are.
Harbaugh 1, NCAA 0.
August 29th, 2023 at 3:57 PM ^
The NCAA’s response wasn’t that “four games is not sufficient.” They simply declined the negotiated terms and intended to continue with their investigation and let the COI determine the punishment next summer.
Believe it or not, I don’t think it really matters to the NCAA whether he’s suspended one game, three games, or 6 games. Turning down the 4 games wasn’t so much a “we’re coming for more!!” As it was a “let’s do this process the way it’s supposed to be done.” I don’t see what they actually gain if their intent is to just go for the kill here.
August 29th, 2023 at 2:42 PM ^
Hey, NCAA, we gotcher cheeseburger RIGHT HERE!
August 29th, 2023 at 2:49 PM ^
We also have Bucknut coolers if they need them, too. Preowned, naturally.
August 29th, 2023 at 2:45 PM ^
Has the NCAA ever used the “you cannot host recruits” before? Or is this something they just made up to “get the final word”???
I really hope that someone like Jadyn Davis just HAPPENS to host a watch party…that just HAPPENS to be in Ann Arbor, and just HAPPENS to have a guest list of a bunch of really good high school athletes…
August 29th, 2023 at 3:58 PM ^
The NCAA often uses recruiting visit limitations in their sanctions. I don’t know that I’ve ever seen them limit the number of weeks, but usually it’s the total number of visits allowed gets slashed
August 29th, 2023 at 2:50 PM ^
The Harbaughrglar.
August 29th, 2023 at 3:34 PM ^
Awesome. JH looks like he did in Brisco County Jr.
August 29th, 2023 at 2:48 PM ^
Of course it is.
August 29th, 2023 at 2:49 PM ^
Edit - Title Changed
August 29th, 2023 at 2:50 PM ^
Am I reading the story differently? It doesn't seem to confirm that the process is over.
August 29th, 2023 at 2:51 PM ^
Don't know, can't read it because it's paywalled.
August 29th, 2023 at 2:58 PM ^
I read it the same way you do, BB. Surprised I had to go this far down the page to see this question posed.
August 29th, 2023 at 2:51 PM ^
Two thoughts:
If this doesn't lead to some kind of burger-related endorsement deal, we have failed as a society.
Pretty sure most of our recruits want to come for the last game of the season when to witness the completion of the tour de chapeau on the cooler crappers.
August 29th, 2023 at 2:52 PM ^
I don't see anyone reporting anything like the headline here.
August 29th, 2023 at 2:56 PM ^
Ann Arbor — Michigan will not be allowed to host football recruits during the first two football games of the season as part of a negotiated resolution with the NCAA, multiple sources told The Detroit News. The Wolverines open the season on Saturday against East Carolina and the following week against UNLV.
That's what I got from Google when I searched for the Det News article.
August 29th, 2023 at 3:10 PM ^
The question is whether the term "resolution" implies that the matter is resolved. That's how I would use it, but I am not certain how the NCAA uses it.
August 29th, 2023 at 4:05 PM ^
That snippet only mentions the two game restriction on hosting recruits. Does the article also mention the NCAA agreeing to no additional games suspended for Harbaugh?
August 29th, 2023 at 2:58 PM ^
This article is still ambiguous to me. Is the NCAA completely done investigating Harbaugh? Or is the resolution to take away the two home game recruiting visits just related to Sherrone Moore? Idk it wasn't definitive (at least based on how I read it).
Also wouldnt they be able to comment now that it's resolved? The article says they still aren't able to speak to it which says to me that it's not over
August 29th, 2023 at 3:21 PM ^
I've got the same question. Does Moore's suspension and recruit restrictions resolve the level 2 violation, and level 1 is still unresolved?
August 29th, 2023 at 2:59 PM ^
They wanted no part of the "rev share for players" pandoras box he opened up on them yesterday.
Rest assured, as a genuine man of principle, it was more than just a shot across the bow at the NCAA, but something he believes in as well.
August 29th, 2023 at 3:06 PM ^
The NCAA punishes and negotiates exactly like I punish and negotiate with my 14 year old daughter:
Me (NCAA): "That's it... 6 days without your phone"
Daughter (Harbaugh): "No...."
Me: "Ok, wise-ass, make it 4 days then"
Daughter: "Tell you what, I decline your 4.... it's a self-imposed 3"
Me: "Oh... Ok... hard-ball... well I just told your Mom and we are going to think on this and it might end up being more than 6. We will let you know next week what we decide"
Me: "Ok.... 3 .... don't do it again"
August 29th, 2023 at 3:29 PM ^
So if you're a recruit, are you heartbroken that you can't attend either the East Carolina or the UNLV game?
August 29th, 2023 at 3:43 PM ^
No, but its 2 weekends less than everyone else to recruit guys in nice weather with hopefully blow out wins, in a fun atmosphere... are you serious? you think they are fans? recruits commit when teams lose, get blown out, etc... not having recruits to start the year is a big deal. for 2 out of 7 home games, yeah. not good. especially for guys who may be fringe guys trying to see if they want to come back later or who may be already booked later in the season.
August 29th, 2023 at 3:44 PM ^
This is probably more the NCAA's style:
NCAA - "We're offering a 4 game suspension."
Warde - "That's fine but..."
NCAA - "Too late, it's off the table. And because you back talked, we're going after Sherrone also."
Warde - "But..."
NCAA - "You just lost the first two games for recruiting. Do you want to say anything else?"
This should have been Michigan's style at the beginning:
Warde - (on the golf course with Harbaugh after answering his phone) "Jim, it's the NCAA. Something about hamburgers?"
Harbaugh - "Hahahahaha. Just hang up on them."
August 29th, 2023 at 6:44 PM ^
I heard a rumor that he contacted the Brown Jug and sent a huge box load of burgers to the NCAA headquarters in Indy.
August 29th, 2023 at 3:21 PM ^
The article simply does not say that the Harbaugh issue is resolved. It is not.
The "negotiated resolution" relates only to Moore and the loss of two recruiting weekends.
August 29th, 2023 at 3:28 PM ^
The Art of the Deal, by the NCAA.
They're totally not a joke of an organization, you guys.
August 29th, 2023 at 3:28 PM ^
I read the article more than once. I don't see anything regarding a final resolution, just an additional penalty regarding recruits being hosted at the first 2 games.
I would love to be wrong. Am I missing something?
August 29th, 2023 at 3:38 PM ^
no recruits? god. hookers and blow all good.
This shit isnt over. we're bending over to someone who has no real authority or power to make that happen.
August 29th, 2023 at 3:50 PM ^
Per Angelique, it didn't sound like it was resolved, just that we were losing recruiting weekends. If there really is no more, however, then this is still a net win for Michigan and Jim Harbaugh. Mor to come, I suppose.
August 29th, 2023 at 4:17 PM ^
might want to update the post then so we don't spread misinformation. going to be a lot of confused people
August 29th, 2023 at 3:50 PM ^
Oh well our neighborhood Goblin is going to be sad the whole rest of the year!!!
August 29th, 2023 at 3:58 PM ^
someone needs to amend this thread because clearly this isn't yet over. No one else is reporting this for such big news.
August 29th, 2023 at 4:30 PM ^
At least the recruits can watch on National TV .......
August 29th, 2023 at 4:37 PM ^
This is textbook “if you give a mouse a cookie” behavior from the NCAA.
They are a dying, increasingly irrelevant organization that is desperate for a major win, desperate for an optics victory. One that at least creates the illusion that they are still in control, and in order to do that, they need to go after schools that still allow them to do so. Michigan, for whatever reason, is still one of those schools.
If anyone thinks this is over, they are only kidding themselves. While I am a bit of a cynic, I still believe the NCAA wants to take as much from Michigan as it can. Wouldn’t shock me to see them trying to slap a bowl ban on Michigan next year.
August 29th, 2023 at 5:18 PM ^
Bowl ban is a stretch. If the NCAA decided not to levy that on Tennessee after over 200 violations including 18 Level1s, this seems highly irrational/unlikely. But then again, when does logic ever prevent the NCAA from irrational acts. Who knows, but I'm with you on their intent.
August 29th, 2023 at 6:35 PM ^
NCAA is in survival mode right now and it knows it. I’m not putting anything past them. Especially when it concerns schools that don’t immediately tell them to go pound sand.
August 29th, 2023 at 8:20 PM ^
C'mon, man. Michigan is not getting a bowl ban.
August 29th, 2023 at 4:48 PM ^
BursleyHall82 is bad and should feel bad.
August 29th, 2023 at 4:48 PM ^
I would LOVE to see John Harbaugh coach one of those 3 games dressed just like Jim!
August 29th, 2023 at 4:52 PM ^
Defund the NCAA