Purdue football coach Ryan Walters on Michigan scandal: 'They aren't allegations'
I wouldn't be surprised if Michigan hangs 50+ on them this coming Saturday.
November 2nd, 2023 at 11:54 PM ^
That's what pisses me off the most. The biggest cheaters and abusers of the system are the most vocal "GIVE MICHIGAN THE DEATH PENALTY!!" voices.
They are up to their necks in manure, screaming about how our aftershave stinks.
If all of this was initiated by Rice or Stanford, then fine. But that it's coming from places like Ohio State is beyond sick.
November 2nd, 2023 at 11:59 PM ^
And places like MSU cry about player safety.
November 3rd, 2023 at 12:05 AM ^
Rhule did too.
“I’ll tell you this, players go out there and they get hurt, and if I ever knew what plays you were running and my guys were running to the ball before the snap, I don’t know that that’s fair to the health and safety of our players or anything,” Rhule said. “So I certainly hope it’s not what everyone says it is. But I don’t know, so I can’t comment on that specifically.”
November 3rd, 2023 at 6:11 AM ^
That makes so little sense. Football plays end in tackles 99% of the time. Knowing what the other team is about to do only changes WHERE on the field those tackles happen. Is it less safe for a RB to be stood up at the line by a DL compared to being slammed into from the side by a safety running full speed?
November 3rd, 2023 at 9:34 AM ^
I've tried to reason it out. I can't figure it out.
Rhule says "running to the ball before the snap."
Does he mean well-timed blitzing? Which would have to do more with snap counts. Are snap counts on the signs?
November 3rd, 2023 at 10:19 AM ^
I can't imagine they would be. I would guess the QB has a verbal call to announce the snap count he wants because nothing is more important than making sure everyone knows when the ball will be snapped. Assuming everybody gets the same snap count from a board or signal seems really dangerous. This is just my assumption because it seems too risky to do otherwise.
November 3rd, 2023 at 12:22 AM ^
If they are going to hate you anyway might as well really give them a reason.
November 2nd, 2023 at 11:50 PM ^
I like how he clarified the things we already know, super helpful Ryan! Anyways, the preemptive excuses from future opponents are hilarious. It's so transparently self-serving and not genuine.
November 2nd, 2023 at 11:51 PM ^
Forgive me, but I still don't know how one steals signs if the opposing team has 2-3 backup QBs giving signals. How does one know the correct one? And the correct one should be changed every Qtr or drive, imo. If an opponent doesn't have something like that, then they are really stupid.
November 2nd, 2023 at 11:58 PM ^
Apparently, anyone from the stands can figure out their signals since they're super easy and they can't seem to change them and they don't even bother making sign stealing illegal.
November 3rd, 2023 at 6:03 AM ^
From what I've read a lot of those guys giving fake signals are just going through the motions. They do such an unconvincing job that they're easily being ignored.
November 2nd, 2023 at 11:52 PM ^
Man do I feel sorry for the next 4 teams. Actually no I don’t
November 2nd, 2023 at 11:52 PM ^
Go for 2 multiple times!
November 2nd, 2023 at 11:54 PM ^
B1G coaches don't seem to know the rules or pick and choose which evidence they believe. It is unclear what video evidence Ryan Walters is talking about? Someone in the seat purchased by CS? Allegedly?
Matt Rhule wants an analyst to teach integrity to players?
I guess the media propaganda of skewing facts have worked on these two dumb asses.
November 2nd, 2023 at 11:56 PM ^
Hopefully Deion will hire a PI to dig into Nebraska's program.
November 3rd, 2023 at 12:23 AM ^
Hopefully they will continue to keep learning how to lose with integrity🥲.
November 2nd, 2023 at 11:54 PM ^
They've had plenty of time to change their signs at this point. What happens to you on Saturday are your failings for being a bad program on the bad side of the conference.
Fuck this conference man. It's like this conference loves OSU being its overlord.
Also you guys got blown out by fucking Wisconsin, you're not good.
November 2nd, 2023 at 11:56 PM ^
Bo-Whiskey Ryan,
Ryan (Born on Third Base) Day,
Ryan Pur-Doo-Doo.
Those are Bad Ryans
Walters: Dumb Young Swolly Bro
Fuck Ohio State.
Early for haiku?
No, I am drinking, pissed off.
I want Due Process
There once was a coach named Ryan,
No, not the one who's always cryin'.
(You know - the one that has to beg,
And the best part of him ran down Urban's leg)
But the one this Saturday that will be dyin'.
November 2nd, 2023 at 11:57 PM ^
In the past 10 days, I have literally had to tailor specific explanations of this drama for my 75 year old mother, my 48 year old wife of 20+ years (non-UM grad, but generally supportive of my fandom / addiction 30+ years later...) and 15 / 12 / 12 year old kids based on the reporting (and pretty much widely accepted as fact) of national media and acceleration of negative perspectives from facebook, insta, and tiktoc.
While I realize we want other B1G coaches 'owning' their takes, Walters' statement essentially creates "facts which do not tie to the actual known information or at least allows for wide extrapolation of "They..." to include the coaches and institution when that level of involvement is very very suspect
November 3rd, 2023 at 12:02 AM ^
And since he was kind enough to do that on the record I can now say he's an asshole.
November 3rd, 2023 at 12:09 AM ^
Absolutely. Let's hope Santa can convey the more rationale POV to the B1G tomorrow.
November 3rd, 2023 at 12:09 AM ^
Absolutely. Let's hope Santa can convey the more rationale POV to the B1G tomorrow.
November 2nd, 2023 at 11:59 PM ^
I wasn't so sure about Michigan -33 at first. I thought we'd want to rest the starters asap. Now I am sure that Michigan will win by at least 40 points.
November 2nd, 2023 at 11:59 PM ^
Dear Ryan,
It won't matter.
Cordially,
A Person Who Has Seen Your Team Play
November 3rd, 2023 at 12:02 AM ^
If there was ever a time I wanted Harbaugh to get petty and run up the score, its now, go for 2 if the game is out of reach and really embrace it these next 4 games. Worst case we some more "sources say"
November 3rd, 2023 at 12:55 AM ^
I’ve thought of that. But I think getting the 2nd and 3rd team reps in the 4th quarter is more insulting, while also being better for our development.
November 3rd, 2023 at 5:32 AM ^
Fourth quarter? How about second quarter…
November 3rd, 2023 at 5:32 AM ^
Fourth quarter? How about second quarter…
November 3rd, 2023 at 1:35 AM ^
I agree. Michigan should go scorched Earth and torch everybody...but I would protect JJ...Hell, Tuttle is solid. Keep running up the score with him in the 2Half.
November 3rd, 2023 at 12:03 AM ^
You’re right. Allegations have actual evidence. This seems more like propaganda
November 3rd, 2023 at 12:03 AM ^
I really hope the team salts the earth with the rest of the season. Run it all the way up, embarrass the other coaches, leave a scorched Earth. I'm of the belief we should run it up on everyone unless the opposing staff has a meaningful tie to the program like Bowling Green or Charlotte. Everyone already hated UM to begin with, we might as well oblige everyone and hate them all just as much. No better way to show it then smiling and scoring touchdowns and shutting teams down.
November 3rd, 2023 at 12:06 AM ^
Yup and no one seemed to have an issue with Ryan Day running up the scores on teams. CJ Stroud would play well beyond the game being over so they can pad their stats a bit.
So fuck it, give them a real reason to hate us.
November 3rd, 2023 at 12:04 AM ^
Winning heals all wounds.
What is best in life?
"To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women." -- Conan
November 3rd, 2023 at 12:08 AM ^
Don’t pull the starters for the rest of the season - potential injuries be damned.
Run it up, go for 2. Go for it on 4th down whenever you’re within 40 yards of the endzone…
…albeit that’s my default position on how football should be played anyway. It would be nice to see Michigan throw all sportsmanship out the window and be the douchiest team ever. Over the next 3 games - and 4 if possible.
November 3rd, 2023 at 1:02 AM ^
Nah it’s more insulting to beat them by 49 with 2nd and 3rd teamers playing B1G games in November. Guys like Mullings, Hall, Morgan, El-Hadi, Gentry, Morgan, Rolder, Hill and many more will get invaluable experience that will compound over time until all that’s left is a full blown juggernaut.
November 3rd, 2023 at 12:13 AM ^
I guess due process isn't a thing anymore.
Even if you think what Stallions did was terrible, you need to pick one investigative body, let them finish, and give the program a chance to respond to allegations. This is a kangaroo court and it's bullshit.
November 3rd, 2023 at 12:15 AM ^
Ryan isn't lying about the proof that tickets were purchased. I assume someone was actually using the tickets as well.
But geez Matt Rhule. The virtue signaling didn't work with Colorado. I guess he didn't learn his lesson.
November 3rd, 2023 at 12:16 AM ^
Matt Rhule too, I guess
On3’s @Andy_Staples spoke with Nebraska HC Matt Rhule on the Michigan Sign-Stealing Scandal:
— On3 (@On3sports) November 2, 2023
“As we tell parents, ‘We’re going to teach them how to be young men.’ I think the first thing we teach them is integrity and honesty.”
Won't Someone Think of the Children.gif
November 3rd, 2023 at 12:17 AM ^
"A faithful man forgives, a smart man forgets, the Harbaughs remember."
- See you Saturday Coach Walters
November 3rd, 2023 at 12:19 AM ^
I would love to see Harbaugh go for two after every TD.
November 3rd, 2023 at 12:32 AM ^
I don't enjoy this but I'll reiterate....Ryan, you're fucking Hoosier-state bumpkin of a team is going to get their shit pushed in Saturday and you know it. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.
Your bunk ass signals for outside zone vs whatever route tree you want on our cover 3 defense on 2nd and 12....IT DOESNT MATTER. You're fucked. Quit coming off as an adolescent.
November 3rd, 2023 at 1:16 AM ^
Are we supposed to be mad because another coach speaks the truth? Get the pitchforks ready!
November 3rd, 2023 at 8:44 AM ^
Dude how stupid are you?
asking for a friend
November 3rd, 2023 at 9:57 AM ^
So they don’t have video, proof of tickets, etc? Great rebuttal btw, lol.
November 3rd, 2023 at 12:07 PM ^
Ban this Sparty Troll
November 3rd, 2023 at 1:04 PM ^
Also excellent rebuttal. Lol
”If you’re not 100% in on Michigan 100% of the time you’re a Sparty troll.” Sounds like the logic most of this board would use lately.
November 3rd, 2023 at 2:13 AM ^
Bold move, Mr. Walters.
November 3rd, 2023 at 3:29 AM ^
Screw the B10. We and Notre Dame can switch. Let them have to deal with the insufferable OSU, MSU, and PSU. We may encounter some downsides to being an independent. But 10+ years of no B10 team aside from OSU (occasionally) making it to the final four should be a wonderful middle finger to the B10.
November 3rd, 2023 at 4:23 AM ^
I don't mind entertaining this idea but, when I do, I tend to expect that Ryan Day would thrive without Harbaugh in his conference. Day isn't a bad coach. He could even be great. But he clearly has limitations that can be well exploited by an elite opposing OL and a Ravens-style pass D loaded with NFL players.
Hypothetical land: If we were to leave, and if my side-assumption proves correct that USC and Oregon are merely one notch above PSU, I'd expect OSU to remain a Top 5 team.
If you want a new and lesser era for OSU, you probably need:
- Michigan to face them annually
- Michigan to beat them 60% of the time
- Allow enough spiritual cancer and doubt to set in that the (measurable but modest) notch that OSU has fallen since Meyer left will become a trend, rather than a plateau
November 3rd, 2023 at 5:42 AM ^
Day is a fine offensively oriented coach, I guess.
Looking for a difference? Look no further than the talent on the roster.
OSU’s talent level has probably averaged Top 3 for over a decade.
What really hurts the Buckeyes is - they are losing to a “less talented” Michigan team. This means - one team is stronger at development - player commitment - and quality of execution. And, it’s not them.