Mel Tucker target of sexual harassment case.
September 10th, 2023 at 12:21 AM ^
And that's how you get out of a guaranteed contract
September 10th, 2023 at 12:42 AM ^
Tuck sweatin
September 10th, 2023 at 9:14 AM ^
Tuck goin'
September 10th, 2023 at 10:59 AM ^
That's what I was thinking.
September 10th, 2023 at 9:02 AM ^
Of all the people in the world to sexually harass Tucker chose Brenda frigging Tracy? What a wanker!
EDIT: Well, give the man credit, he has learned a lot from this. My favorite tear-out quote from the USA Today piece:
“To say that I have learned from this situation is an understatement,” Tucker wrote in a letter to the investigator on March 22. “I will never again allow myself to be duped by kindness.”
The fact that this has been a burning issue at MSU since before March. . .
September 10th, 2023 at 9:25 AM ^
Seriously…of all the people you choose the person who has made it her life’s mission to educate people and fight sexual abuse?
Brenda Tracy’s mission is a good one. Helping young men gain awareness can save a lot of people a lot of pain.
I hope other programs don’t slow their efforts to engage with her.
September 10th, 2023 at 1:39 PM ^
If true, Tucker deserves to be fired. Even a consensual relationship as described with a vendor to the school is inappropriate and unethical.
EDIT: Got rid of my last few sentences after the above. Mea culpa. I totally misread the the article and thought some Tucker quotes about what Tracyb said were actually Tracy's own words and thus it seemed to my confused mind that she had admitted to some inappropriate conversations and actions. Though regardless if Tucker isn't lying about what Tracy said, non-consensual phone sex is wrong under any circumstance.
September 10th, 2023 at 1:57 PM ^
The truth is not always easy to find and the whole thing is a mess.
But his version of what happened is enough to finish him off.
Which makes you wonder Why he would tell it that way.
September 10th, 2023 at 2:23 PM ^
Not sure about professional protocols on her side. My first thought was that a woman is allowed to be interested in a guy. We sometimes make the mistake of thinking the woman also culpable when being interested is totally okay; it's unwanted advances that are not. She may have been unprofessional, too; I just didn't catch that/don't know how that would work.
September 10th, 2023 at 11:08 AM ^
You get the gist of his complaint but "duped by kindness" is either a very weird way of expressing it or a very weird view of the world.
So, maybe there won't be the usual "spend more time with family" rationale.
[EDIT: a very weird view of the world that sees kindness as the problem.]
September 10th, 2023 at 9:42 AM ^
Tuck Cummin.
(too easy)
September 10th, 2023 at 12:44 AM ^
From the article:
Tucker's contract says the school can fire him with cause "if the coach engaged in any conduct which constitutes moral turpitude or, which in the university's reasonable judgment, would tend to bring public disrespect, contempt or ridicule."
September 10th, 2023 at 1:37 AM ^
This is where firing for cause all falls apart for MSU. Tucker will easily be able to prove MSU has no moral turpitude, the school thrives on public disrespect, and they are constantly ridiculed.
September 10th, 2023 at 10:26 AM ^
Yeah but it should get a good chuckle out of the judge.
September 10th, 2023 at 10:36 AM ^
If it is an Ingham county judge, he will hand out the staee special, either - a) littering, or b) seduction of a single woman. Izziot can get him the hookup like has has done before.
Sick fucking bastards.
September 10th, 2023 at 10:42 AM ^
Never understood the "seduction of an unmarried woman" law. How was I supposed to marry my Michigander wife if I didn't seduce her first?
September 10th, 2023 at 11:04 AM ^
Hmmmmm, is there a statute of limitations on the “seduction of an unmarried woman” law?
Asking for a friend.
September 10th, 2023 at 10:56 AM ^
Hit 'em with the line of the day, my guy.
September 10th, 2023 at 2:13 AM ^
would tend to bring public disrespect, contempt or ridicule.
Doesn’t his weekly coaching performance do that even absent the creepy harassing bits?
September 10th, 2023 at 1:02 AM ^
To be honest this is like the third event that's come along that has made me wonder if MSU would use it to axe him instead of paying a buyout.
This one, if true (I know no details other than what people have put on twitter) would not a stretch firing at all.
September 10th, 2023 at 1:22 AM ^
The problem, as the USA Today article points out, is that there are no recordings and this is basically he-said/she-said. Maybe they could argue pattern of behaviour but the odds of Tucker litigating any firing with cause would be quite significant. Without clear evidence he likely prevails and still receives his $80 million. Given the timing here one wonders who leaked this content (which really should be confidential for all involved parties).
September 10th, 2023 at 1:36 AM ^
While that may be true they have to fire him. He admitted in writing masturbating while on the phone with a woman who wasn’t his wife. Even with the he/she said aspect MSU can’t keep a coach accused by a rape victim of sexual harassment.
September 10th, 2023 at 1:38 AM ^
I feel you are underestimating MSU's potential for malfeasance here...
September 10th, 2023 at 1:52 AM ^
From a strictly PR standpoint they can’t. There isn’t any way around this. The man has effectively torpedoed his career.
September 10th, 2023 at 1:59 AM ^
This is the same band of idiots that circled the wagon for nerd rage, red lock, that played a guy a the same week he got released from jail. Indeed, the same people who repeatedly covered for Larry Nassar and for whom, every negative against their university relates to some mythical and imaginary "blue wall' or similar conspiracy.
I'll believe it when I see it.
September 10th, 2023 at 4:11 AM ^
The difference is Tucker is relatively new to MSU, is very clearly overpaid, and isn't winning. He won't get the eternal MSU treatment here like the old red faced yelling man. Oh, there is also one other difference...
September 10th, 2023 at 9:51 AM ^
Oh ffs you ambulance chasing race baiters. Race has nothing to do with the outcome of this but you just can’t resist the chance the get on a soapbox. Imagine if Harbaugh was black and we could just blame every issue he’s ever had threw out his entire career at every stop on “institutional racism”
September 10th, 2023 at 11:14 AM ^
well that'd be v weird if harbaugh did that b/c he's white.
September 10th, 2023 at 10:19 AM ^
It's the same people who gladly had Miles Bridges on there sideline yesterday
September 10th, 2023 at 1:13 PM ^
But I suspect this is going to be used as the "with cause" for getting out of his contract. So I think it's going through. These are not your usual East Lansing settings and circumstances. They weren't on the hook for $95 millions it the things you are talking about.
September 10th, 2023 at 1:29 PM ^
In addition to the lack of morals, the idiocy of Tucker is outrageous.
He could have lost every game during his contract and made his $95M.
Yet, he decides to risk it all to have phone sex with a well known woman’s advocate for protecting women against sexual assault. Then he admits to it when it could have been he said/she said.
September 10th, 2023 at 6:05 PM ^
Truly, truly stoopid!
September 10th, 2023 at 9:43 AM ^
He is done at MSU based on what he has admitted to. He was already living on borrowed time at MSU
But he will surface again in a couple years somewhere else.
Wtf Mel. A woman who had made it her life’s mission to educate young men and fight sexual abuse?
Extra sick and extra stupid.
September 10th, 2023 at 3:22 PM ^
Not if Tucker's team implodes against Washington and then the season unravels.
September 10th, 2023 at 6:03 AM ^
Tuck cumin.
I believe that is now referred to as a "Toobin," named after Jeff Toobin, CNN's former law reporter, who made a major mistake that shared his dalliance while masturbating on a Zoom call.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/epdgm4/new-yorker-suspends-jeffrey-toobin-for-zoom-dick-incident
September 11th, 2023 at 1:33 PM ^
If Mel Tucker starts selling spices in grocery stores under the brand name "Tuck Cumin" I think I could die happy. It would make up for the fact that Paul Simon never sold a "Parsley Sage Rosemary and Thyme" blend.
September 10th, 2023 at 7:37 AM ^
So what they were always saying was Tuck Cumming, not Tuck Coming?
September 10th, 2023 at 7:58 AM ^
Maybe change from “keep chopping” to “keep spanking”?
September 10th, 2023 at 8:00 AM ^
Keep fapping
September 10th, 2023 at 8:26 AM ^
Technically, Tuck Came
September 10th, 2023 at 8:54 AM ^
Brings a whole new meaning to "Keep Choppin'", doesn't it?
September 10th, 2023 at 7:35 AM ^
That’s what makes me think he’s in actual job trouble over this.
I’ve heard the explanation that all programs have their dirt, but you know forces are truly mobilizing when it’s getting leaked to the public.
September 10th, 2023 at 10:18 AM ^
recordings and this is basically he-said/she-said
If it was over Zoom, I wonder if that call could be subpoenaed from the company?
September 10th, 2023 at 1:30 PM ^
It will be interesting if it turns out she recorded it.
September 10th, 2023 at 1:41 PM ^
Apparently, Tracy herself went public. No leaks.
September 10th, 2023 at 5:49 PM ^
It's more than he said/she said. Two examples:
• He lied to investigators by denying denied he was in Florida for his masturbatory performance.
• He appears not to understand his responsibility when he claimed in most recent statement that he "did not engage in misconduct by any definition," when what he did as a university leader and married man is misconduct by definition.
September 10th, 2023 at 3:01 AM ^
And we know Tuck is fond of "stretch firing".