Isaiah Hole: There are more things to come if the Mob (including Big Ten) don't stop
Reference: You Tube
Michigan just want to end this and move on.. But if the mob continues, we have more.. This is going to go nuclear and commissioner needs to be fired for taking sides (especially, the one side)....
Again, I am not even a Michigan alum but I know the Michigan alum network has more money, influence, and capability and they did not know that they would not do it?
As Isaiah wrote.. This is not the old Michigan who would just oblige... The mobs are dumb to think we are not serious..
November 6th, 2023 at 11:08 PM ^
My sympathies. Truly, I cannot imagine the horror of that, especially now.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:24 PM ^
Reminds me if the War of the Gargantuans movie
November 6th, 2023 at 11:13 PM ^
passed
November 6th, 2023 at 9:01 PM ^
Big Ten did it and Michigan responded simultaneously. This is why Big Ten is caught offguard... NCAA stated no known connection with Connor and JH.. Now, Pete Thamel (a journalist? please) was aware of the staffer that had Michigan signs that were being shared between schools.. that staff talked last week and he did NOTHING...
So know we know he is a yellow journalist.. And Michigan still has more.... So I am getting some popcorn...
November 7th, 2023 at 9:20 AM ^
We need some more Maize journalists to come out of the woodwork
November 6th, 2023 at 9:04 PM ^
Michigan can get injunction within 15 mins if it comes to that. They have a judge on speed dial. As far as B10 and Tony we’ll, it could’ve just been to quiet the mob and say hey I tried. Anyways Harbaugh ain’t missing any games. Book it.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:38 PM ^
Michigan does not have a judge “on speed dial.” If they have to sue then I imagine they will need to file the case in U.S District Court and they will get a randomly-assigned judge who may or may not be sympathetic to their claims and in any event will do things on his or her own timeline. Federal judges tend to be quirky egomaniacs and many are unpredictable AF. Michigan appears to have an excellent case, but trying to resolve this situation without resort to the janky-ass civil legal system is absolutely the right move.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:00 PM ^
The most salient point he makes: the mob didn't expect Michigan to defend itself.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:11 PM ^
The better question I ask the mob is don't they know the Michigan has better resources, talent, and capabilities that goes beyond the field and classroom? I am not a Michigan alum but I know this..
Ohio State is a good school academic-wise but no where near close to Michigan.. The mob really think they going to outsmart Michigan with this approach... I tell myself... Never poke the bear nor bring a knife to a gunfight...
November 6th, 2023 at 9:26 PM ^
But Mich has never showed their fangs like this before. EVER
November 6th, 2023 at 9:36 PM ^
True.. But Isiah stated.. This is not the old Michigan.. Past does not always equate to the present.. Again, the mob overestimated their capabilities...
Again, we are Repeat Big Ten Champ and likely to win a 3rd... Michigan is different..
November 6th, 2023 at 10:39 PM ^
It's only been a few months since JH was suspended 3 games for.cheeseburgers. So it's been a pretty damn quick rebirth.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:23 PM ^
I really don’t think he meant it the way he said it. It’s less about the defending and more about the substance of the defense. They clearly did not expect Michigan to have “blow it up” dirt on the rest of the conference.
November 6th, 2023 at 10:18 PM ^
It's an open secret that OSU has operated like an SEC school for a long time. They shouldn't be surprised we'd have dirt on them. They just assumed we didn't have the guts. Before Ono, they may have been right.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:30 PM ^
Kayce Dutton: You didn't think we'd fight back?
Teal Beck, sitting on a toilet: Nobody ever fights back...
Click, click, boom.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:30 PM ^
Seriously. The rest of the Big Ten seriously thought they could just exact some mob justice on Michigan and keep collecting those TV contract paychecks off our backs. If Michigan committed infractions so be it, but this mob justice against one of the 2-3 teams in the league paying your bills is outrageous
November 6th, 2023 at 10:15 PM ^
There's an old public health saying: "Don't shit where you eat."
Some of these schools just took a big dump on their dinner table.
November 6th, 2023 at 10:07 PM ^
Combination of many things.
1. Jim Harbaugh is a good coach, the players love him, and the team generally has players of high character
2. Stallions looks to have acted alone and Michigan had to have the evidence for this in-hand
3. The rule broken in questions is dumb and of little to no value. With the knowledge that programs are actively acting as each-other's in-person scouts and providing intel on Michigan's signs, this is effectively a wash competitively
There's a very good argument that the rules were broken and that a punishment should be levied. There is not a good argument that a meaningful competitive advantage was gained, or that this type of isolated action by one staff member should effectively cost this man's job. If he was aware of it, covered it up, encouraged it, or in some other way assisted, or if Stallions felt comfortable enough to expand his operation to others on the staff (indicating that this type of behavior was acceptable in the program) this would be different.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:00 PM ^
So far it’s just empty threats… Release something damaging about a low level program and then wait
November 6th, 2023 at 9:01 PM ^
I'm not an insider, nor do I pretend to be. My good friend used to work for the AD and I used to get updates from him....some may recall I was one of the first to report that the Covid season was not happening for the B1G and that UM was one of the main universities pushing back on it. Eventually that changed, but he was my source and how I knew it would be a fucked year months before hand.
Anyways, he no longer works there but is well connected and I can share only this. Again, this isn't a "trust me bro", he's always been a reliable source and hasn't had much info since he left, but per his contacts still there...
UM essentially has a dossier on other programs in the B1G and they are going to go scorched earth here. That dossier was there forever when he worked there, and they always joke, "in case of emergency, open binder" Ono and Harbaugh are beyond disgusted with the hypocrisy and find it absurd that it has gone this far in the media, given the stuff the B1G and the NCAA has buried for teams in the past, including sign "stealing" being common practice in the conference.. OSU has by far the most dirt (plenty from the Urban years), but still today even in NIL years as they are paying for visits.
If UM goes scorched earth, this will get nasty...and as he says....all the other programs combined don't add up to 10% or the dirt and infractions that have gone on at OSU.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:08 PM ^
They're going Tom Wambsgans on their ass. Let's fucking go.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:14 PM ^
We just need to find a Sporus.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:17 PM ^
PJ Fleck
November 6th, 2023 at 9:16 PM ^
Guess we didn't need to hire a PI after all.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:24 PM ^
I am waiting for the nuke to be drop on Columbus Monday before the game.
The only problem I see is that other members of conference don't want to stop as they want Buckeyes being destroyed too. But seriously I don't see any school could've done bigger crime than what Penn State did for Jerry.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:49 PM ^
"The only problem I see is that other members of conference don't want to stop as they want Buckeyes being destroyed too."
Fine, but why would they be so subservient to OSU now?
November 6th, 2023 at 9:27 PM ^
Of course OSU is paying for visits. This is the exact info I would release ASAP.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:39 PM ^
Well Gene Smith already told Congress at a hearing so...I wouldn't expect anyone to care.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:45 PM ^
Reigning world heavyweight champion of "F*ck around and find out":
November 6th, 2023 at 9:47 PM ^
And Nowwwwwwwwww.........THE moment you'll allllll been WAITING FORRRR!!!!!
November 7th, 2023 at 10:00 AM ^
Yeah I'm wondering if Michigan has enough evidence to get Igbinosun ruled ineligible for the rest of the season. We were both trying to bring him in as a transfer, he was familiar with Partridge, then all of the sudden commits to OSU. I think there might be something there.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:30 PM ^
What could osu have done that's worse than cheeseburgers and a sign stealer.
November 6th, 2023 at 10:15 PM ^
It may be for the best that this all just goes away and everyone involved pretends nothing happened ……. But dammit, I want scorched earth!
November 6th, 2023 at 9:01 PM ^
Yeah I don’t get why they would stop. Especially if it involves future opponents (looking at you Ohio State). Make them have to deal with the same distractions we’ve had to. If anything it’s gamesmanship. And if the practice footage stuff is true definitely release that regardless.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:06 PM ^
Because leverage is important. I get that many fans just want to see them go scorched earth but if the B1G backs off, why give up all your cards? Keep them in your pocket for another day when they might be needed.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:11 PM ^
They don't need to go scorched earth....yet. But it's not time to stop. There needs to be a message sent to the B1G and every whine ass member of the conference.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:36 PM ^
It'd be kinda fun after a few timely primers go off, to tweet, or x, or whatever, a photo of Ono and coach looking at folders on a bookshelf with teams mascots/logos on them, pondering which one to open next...then watch them squirm into submission.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:52 PM ^
You let them know they brought a knife to gun fight
November 6th, 2023 at 9:18 PM ^
Do you see any indication the B1G is backing off?
November 6th, 2023 at 9:30 PM ^
They kind of need it now. There is a potential suspension and overall the narrative is the football program is full of cheaters and no accomplishment is legitimate. They don't need to put everything out there, but I'd say an eye for an eye at this point. Leaks came for 3 weeks so leak for the next 3 or whatever. They can't just put out one release and then stop because the scales are tipped so far in one direction right now.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:31 PM ^
Well, hold back on the bowers, but I would like to see a couple little trump cards
November 6th, 2023 at 10:19 PM ^
Because Ohio state will continue to give more dirt to put away for a rainy day
November 6th, 2023 at 11:45 PM ^
IMO to restore the reputational damage to the university and Harbaugh. Maybe releasing dirt on other programs doesn’t raise their reputation but it certainly drags others down into the mud. I don’t want to hear about how Michigans championship was tainted for the next 26 years as I’ve heard Michigan’s last championship was only 1/2 of a championship for the previous 26 years.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:07 PM ^
I hope the binder is real. I think right about now would be the time to start dripping out the anOSU stuff. Let it get some airplay and get in their heads before 11/25.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:02 PM ^
If you had asked me a year ago if I could ever foresee a scenario where we would essentially have fight a civil war with our own athletic conference, one that we helped found, no less, I would have chuckled.
But here we are today.
November 6th, 2023 at 10:25 PM ^
We didn’t help found it, we did found it as a charter member in 1896. Moreover we are the oldest program in the Big Ten of the original members and the oldest of the Blue Blood programs period. So when others claim they are the OG we actually are.
In 1907 we were kicked out by a vote of the other members for not obeying a rule related to playing more than 5 games per season and 3 years of eligibility for players. So this is not new. These sniveling little turds set a precedent for this petty crap more than a century ago because they couldn’t compete back then. Lo and behold what have we here? History doesn’t repeat itself but it rhymes.
November 6th, 2023 at 9:05 PM ^
Information, Greg, it's like a bottle of fine wine. You store it, you hoard it, you save it for a special occasion, and then you smash someone's fucking face in with it.
- Jim Harbsgans
November 6th, 2023 at 9:07 PM ^
waiting to get the long poles out on their calvary....
harbaugh and ono, inside schembechler hall
