If Jim Harbaugh can’t get Michigan to where it needs to be, who can?

... hurry, someone start a “Hire JOHN Harbaugh” post...

Given that we couldn’t keep up with Wisconsin and barely could keep up with Army, I don’t think our concern should be with the suspected cheaters down south.  No one thinks Wisconsin and Army are paying guys under the table.

Don't look for specifically a "Michigan Man"..sick of that

Throwing names out: Matt Campbell? Justin Fuente (hasnt done much at VT but who knows if change of scenery would work)?  Gundy?  Take a chance with Jedd Fisch since he knows the culture? Bob Stoops?

Kellen Moore

C'mon.  Lloyd Carr was as clean as possible and he was able to compete just fine.  Did he dominate the way we would have liked over his last few seasons?  No, but even in 2006 we were one play away from going to the National Title game. 

I don't know what is wrong with Harbaugh's program, but cheating isn't the answer.

Creighton. Grab this guy before Sparty does. Jimmy is done. I think recruits that get it 

.. still pick Michigan. But the coach is not a selling point in year 5 while sinking the ship.

Find someone whose teams are consistently well-organized and show the ability to adjust to their personnel and adjust to what the opponent does. 

Who consistently squeezes more out of less in terms of recruiting talent.

Start with someone like that and we're already better off. 

Les Miles with a staff with tons of Ohio contacts/influence.

Jim Harbaugh of 2015 & 2016 could do it.  We don't have him anymore.  You get the impression that Harbaugh retired in the winter of 2017 and a collection of assistants is running everything.  The thing Michigan really needs to get at least close to where we want it to go is coherence.  They are totally incoherent.

I hope the next coach has an absolute hatred for OSU. Maybe we can get Tom Herman to come here, he stoked the fire quite a bit with OSU. 

This questions is so mind-bogglingly misguided that I can't fathom how it seems to be a common meme on this site.

LSU hired Nick Saban away from MSU.  There wasn't a bidding war for his services.  Elite programs weren't tripping over themselves vying for his services.  He was just a solid coach they rolled the dice on.

Dabo Sweeney was an assistant who worked his way up.  There was never a time where other teams were thinking, "Wow, if we could only snap up Dabo from Clemson, we'd be set."  Until four years ago, when suddenly, he has his team playing at an elite level.

Jim Tressel was a I-AA coach.  He won 4 championships at that level.  After the 1st, and after the 2nd, and after the 3rd, any P5 team with a reasonable offer could have hired him.  Ohio State fans were underwhelmed when he was named head coach.

Lincoln Riley was a career assistant, with no head coaching experience.  Oklahoma fans were distraught that they didn't conduct a national search and hire a big name.  He's won his conference every year and made it to the playoffs twice.

"Who else would Michigan get?"  I don't know.  I don't need to know.  It's not my job to know.  I'm not getting paid a lot of money to be an athelectic director at one of the most desirable programs in the country.  What I do know is that there are, without any question, several coaches out there right now who are available to be hired that are going to wind up having great careers, and to suggest otherwise-- to claim that there are currently no home-run hires available anywhere, that ten years from now we'll look back and say, "Yeah, that was the worst dry spell in college football history, there was literally no coach that went on to become elite available anywhere", is just absurd.

Mike Norvell

It’s a deep, cultural issue to solve by key people like Warde.

The entitlement seems like it returned. JH infused a work ethic and competitiveness when he arrived with 4-hour practices and clear player rankings. Why is that fire gone? Why are guys almost assumed to depart (Ruiz, DPJ, Black, Collins, Hill last year) for the nfl with zilch in the productivity column? Why does the sideline look so sedate?

My 10-cent perspective: JH lost the competitive edge. He no longer goes ballistic on players and refs. He just exists on the sideline.

I think the Michigan Man culture needs to die. I really thought it needed to die after the Hoke disaster, but when it became more and more of a possibility of getting Harbaugh I figured he's the best we can get and he played here. But that ship has sailed, and I think someone outside needs to come in, and he needs full support. It's time to clean house, badly. 

you escape BPONE by not feeling sorry for yourself and get off the couch

judge Harbaugh at the end of the year, I am open to a change if we don't finish strong

hell I think Harbaugh will want to fire himself if we don't play better..... my guess is he loves Michigan so much that he'd fire himself if he thought it would result in a championship

seasons not over, beat new jersey and then beat Iowa

they are better than this

Back to what?  Winning 1 NC (split) in 40 years? 

We have the coach we all wanted.  I think we didn't realize how far we'd fallen and didn't realize how dominant Ohio had become.

Lastly I had a worry that we'd be in trouble this season.  how many starters on defense did we lose? lol like all of them?  Add in a change in OC, which IMO is a 50/50 chance of struggling first year while players learn the new O.