Has the B1G opened Pandora’s Box
I’m not a legal expert but going forward shouldn’t the B1G be legally obligated to suspend every coach in every sport that is suspected of cheating of any sort? It would seem they are now legally obligated with this action, if not, does JH have legal recourse against the B1G?
Cheating is cheating, the B1G shouldn’t be able to discern the level of cheating or the accusation of cheating. Going forward all coaches accused of or being investigated for cheating in any form MUST BE SUSPENDED, and yes, recruiting violations ARE cheating. In fact it’s a more egregious form of cheating than “in person scouting” because the “on field competitive advantage” is exponentially more impactful when a team is “cheating” to land a recruit.
I don’t know, maybe I’m reaching. 😂🥰
November 11th, 2023 at 6:58 PM ^
This is why it was a joke of a decision that we should demand Petiti's head over or leave, yes.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:24 PM ^
They picked a fight with one of it's 2 flagship programs over bullshit because the other is coached by a born on 3rd bitchmade Karen.
The commish is a TV guy that doesn't know ball, and what should be a tier 3 violation has turned into the crime of the century becasue HARBAUGH!!! , the mob, and media clicks.
They have indeed opened up the door for all sorts of dirty laundry to be aired and/or UM to leave the conference.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:31 PM ^
I'm going to keep asking until someone gives me a plausible answer: Why would they want to cripple the B1G's best opportunity to capture an NC in a decade? It would have been so simple to express concern and say, 'We're letting the NCAA's investigation take its course.' Or even, 'The B1G reserves the right to levy additional penalties.' Etcetera.
Well, whatever. We can beat OSU without Jim, I am convinced after today.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:36 PM ^
Because this league capitulates to Ohio State, and the last thing that team wants is someone else having a legit shot at a national title.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:58 PM ^
It also says A LOT, that the very best thing they could come up with to attempt to prevent M's NC chances, is fucking sign stealing, something literally every program does, and is only illegal in a very unique scenario that has nothing to do with all the pearl clutching bullshit they're all spewing out.
It's very, very revealing that they are completely desperate, and just as revealing that M runs a pretty fucking clean/tight ship.
Here's how it started/how it's going:
- "Hey guys we really can't let M be too successful"
- "Ok right, what do we have on them?!"
- "A burger."
- "OK YES! LEAK IT!"
- "Shit it didn't work"
- "Ok shit what else do we have on them?! Hurry people!"
- "Um they 'stole' signs"
- "Doesn't everyone do that rampantly?"
- "Yeah but no one talks about it"
- "OK YES! LEAK IT!"
- "Shit it's still not working"
- "Ok shit what else do we have on them?!"
- "Nothing."
- "FUCK, WE ARE FUCKED"
November 11th, 2023 at 7:59 PM ^
A few years ago, when the rest of the country became aware that urban Meyer was essentially retaining a known wife beater who had restraining orders in place from his ex-wife, and repeat offender on his staff and had rehired him six consecutive times knowing of these charges, what did the Big Ten do? They let Ohio State choose their own penalty, and if I’m correct urban Meyer finished coaching the season, faked migraines so it looked like he had a reason to quit and because his narcissistic ego maniacal personality needed people to feel sorry for him and then “retired”. Is it just me or isnt retaining a repeat wife beater, who needed to have restraining orders filed against him as an assistant coach for six consecutive years a more egregious infraction than in person scouting?
November 11th, 2023 at 7:40 PM ^
and you are 100% justified in asking this. I posted earlier, this would never happen in the SEC. It would be QUASHED by the commish. How sad is it that the SEC commissioner looks like a brain surgeon compared to the big tens? Fucking pathetic.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:48 PM ^
And I'll say again he came in compromised by someone...let's guess who? Why else run headlong into a meat grinder. Many easier and fair paths to pursue that were easily defensible.
By the way I found one of PSU's footballs at halftime and it was under inflated. Should I ask for their cell phones?
November 11th, 2023 at 7:54 PM ^
I'm assuming you know the answer. He was yelled at by 13 other schools and it made him feel bad. He's scared of having that many people mad at him. His calculus said that placating them was the safer move for his career. There really is no other reason.
November 11th, 2023 at 11:15 PM ^
There is another reason. He’s stupid.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:56 PM ^
I think it’s because some number of influential schools saw the opportunity to BS a rookie B1G commissioner into thinking that what they had on us was sufficiently bad that we would eventually be disqualified from the B1G championship and playoffs.
As part of that, I think he got snowed into thinking that OSU is the Conference’s only realistic chance at a national championship. So it became a game theory exercise to move us out in favor of the more likely candidate, OSU.
Petitti got bullshitted (the word of the day!) and is experienced enough to know better. But the money has transformed this conference into Lord of the Flies.
November 11th, 2023 at 8:20 PM ^
Imagine Ryan Day going through all that trouble to get Harbaugh out of The Game in an attempt to save his job only for Sherrone Moore to beat his ass
November 11th, 2023 at 9:27 PM ^
Ding, ding, ding!
November 12th, 2023 at 7:30 AM ^
Oh this could be soooo good.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:01 PM ^
OSU so badly wants to get rid of Harbaugh. If we beat OSU without Harbaugh on the sidelines wouldn't their heads explode even more?
If we win without Jim on the sidelines would that increase the odds of Ryan Day losing his job sooner?
Of course I want Jim on the sidelines coaching.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:02 PM ^
Does anybody at OSU want Ryan Day to lose his job? They all just say they lost because we cheated. He might have bought himself a couple of years.
November 12th, 2023 at 6:31 AM ^
Nah, he's gone after this year if he doesn't win, with or without Harbaugh. Obviously it's not like that here, with Harbaugh being given a long leash. Losing 3 consecutive times will not be tolerated there.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:01 PM ^
Because Petitti is a weak man who let Alan Haller’s fucking idiotic logic become the thesis of his thinking on this matter
November 12th, 2023 at 3:04 PM ^
The Commissioner established his absolute inability to lead and manage. You don't give into a bunch of whiners to stop their whining. You get to the root of the problem, if there is one, and determine your response and actions once you have the facts. Now, we have a bunch of enabled whiners who have been gratified. The whining will continue. (Has Petitti not raised children or managed any group of people? Sheesh, this is elementary.)
November 11th, 2023 at 7:00 PM ^
The Big Ten plays favorites. Ohio State is the favorite for god knows what reason so the league is just gonna cave to them. Got to the Big Ten title game in 2020 due to their whining, got Harbaugh suspended this year due to their whining.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:08 PM ^
But remember it’s Ohio State versus the World
November 11th, 2023 at 7:15 PM ^
All because Lou Holtz hurt their feewings
November 11th, 2023 at 7:21 PM ^
Ryan Day vs the AARP
November 11th, 2023 at 7:35 PM ^
Ryan Day vs the hair club for men
November 11th, 2023 at 7:41 PM ^
Ryan day versus the Eddie Munster fan club
November 11th, 2023 at 7:57 PM ^
Ryan Day vs kissing my remarkably stinky and sweaty ass.
November 12th, 2023 at 3:34 AM ^
I don't think he should have yelled at Eddie Munster.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:27 PM ^
Douchebags seam to run in packs and whine about the cool kids.
November 11th, 2023 at 8:53 PM ^
The other schools are ok with OSU being better in football, but the same as then one ergo else. They hate Michigan because we’re better at EVERYTHING than they are. They can’t touch us in academics, can’t beat us on the field, so they try this bullshit.
November 11th, 2023 at 10:03 PM ^
ENVY IS A DEADLY SIN.
November 11th, 2023 at 11:19 PM ^
It's worse than that. The B1G didn't just not do anything when OSU got in hot water over tat-gate - they went to bat for them to get the original post-season suspensions removed to be served out the next season (when everyone knew said players were going pro anyways). The same conference who is trying to get Michigan defacto removed from post-season play, came to cheating OSU's defense when they were doing all kinds of stuff and everyone knew it.
Yep. It's not enough to just sit on the sidelines and let the NCAA maybe punish UM in the future (which can still happen as a pile-on), they're actively trying to make sure of it.
I don't know what Michigan needs to do to change this, but the financial muscles related to what they do for the conference need to be flexed - hard - and put these bastards in their places.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:02 PM ^
you completely misspelled Pantera.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:36 PM ^
Panera?
I love that place!!
November 11th, 2023 at 7:42 PM ^
I saw them in concert once before dime bag, Darrell got murdered
November 11th, 2023 at 7:03 PM ^
Until proven otherwise I will forever believe this is anti-Michigan/ Harbaugh
Wake me when another conference team gets in trouble
November 11th, 2023 at 7:47 PM ^
It 100% is. People cant even coherently argue why Jim should be suspended. The lack of evidence is ignored. Its just an opportunity to hammer Michigan and Jim without any investigation
November 11th, 2023 at 7:03 PM ^
They should punish the school by suspending the head coach. But to be clear they need to make sure everyone understands they are punishing the school not the head coach... that is suspended..... from coaching.
Is there any stretching or specific warmups we should do when doing these mental gymnastics?
November 11th, 2023 at 7:16 PM ^
Careful with stretching, don’t take too long
November 11th, 2023 at 7:52 PM ^
If I cramp up a bit can I have some cream cheese on my bagel?
November 11th, 2023 at 8:51 PM ^
No, I mean, who do you think you are that you could possibly deserve some cream cheese?
November 11th, 2023 at 7:05 PM ^
Never suspend Frames please.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:39 PM ^
I live in PSU country… please, please never let that man leave. He is the gift that keeps on giving (to Michigan)
November 11th, 2023 at 10:05 PM ^
I'll be gosh danged if he can't recruit well though. It's mind bottling.
November 12th, 2023 at 3:16 AM ^
Snake oil salesman.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:08 PM ^
I'm sure I'm biased, but watching the end of that game today, the B1G looked petty and small. I think that look will continue. Easy to say now that Michigan won, but it's almost better that he couldn't coach today. Changed us from the heel to the hero, IMO.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:21 PM ^
I hope so. It just seems to me that the way the narrative on this is going, no Michigan wins will be sufficient to dispel any suspicion surrounding the team (and Harbaugh in particular), and any loss will be seen as definitive proof of Michigan's perfidy.
November 11th, 2023 at 8:27 PM ^
ESPN has a headline at the bottom during a game that said something about Michigan running game destroying PSU and 30 or something straight run game. And about Moore's emotions.
It will get there. Keep winning.
Tell you what. The more a team or an organization is pushed by a mob, a new mob will form to squash that. It happens all the time. Narrative will change.
November 11th, 2023 at 8:31 PM ^
Lol I saw the ESPN score ticker about the M/PSU game and the color info was about how M had it’s streak of 40+ points scored broken, let up the most points all year, and that PSU stinks against top ranked teams.
Like we all predicted, the narrative shifted immediately from “OSU is #1 bc they beat PSU” to “PSU is not that good”
November 11th, 2023 at 9:02 PM ^
And among syphilitic buckeye fans, a one point win over 3 loss ND with 10 players on the field is NOW what really makes them the better team.