Hartline TMZ Update
Link to the police footage and the 911 call. New thread because it is a substantial update via TMZ.
https://www.tmz.com/watch/2023-04-17-041723-brian-hartline-bodycam-1599249-463/
Ohio corn field situation.
Surely a teachable moment here.
Did the update say he isn’t going to coach this year? Otherwise why should we care?
I really wanted to show you black and white corn field footage.
I don't know man.
You can bury it in the last thread 100 comments deep or highlight what has obviously a become a national story. Glad he appears to be OK.
There is a lot to learn from a situation like this and the bodycam video, 911 call and TMZ pickup highlight all of that.
Iowa, Illinois, and Nebraska coaches are laughing at Brian. Man clearly doesn't know his way around a cornfield!
I believe that depends upon how one arrived in the cornfield.
Probably got distracted wondering what the hell the "Warning: ❌aize Ahead" sign meant
Shouldn't the sign warn against a "Xaize Xaze!"?
The video shows him lying on the ground. Nothing more. It’s a police bodycam, so presumably he was there for a while, suggesting it was a serious injury.
I hope I saved you a TMZ click
Yeah, the footage definitely doesn't show you a side by side just finished doing cartwheels or a 911 DWI/OWI call.
The only relevant question here is will the new head coach retain Hartline after Day gets canned on Nov. 26?
Are you asking if Hartline will retain himself?
Wish him the best in his recovery. Also good news that none of the Children of the Corn were injured.
....but a couple do look like Brian and 1 looks like Urban!!!
The good news is they’ve never had an issue with a receivers coach with a drinking problem before.
I feel like with Urban teaching ethics, Zach Smith teaching sex education and family values and now Hartline teaching driving instruction 101, that Ohio St is set for their student athletes to build a solid foundation for life after football.
I hope you realize those are all required classes for Buckeye student athletes. They are taught virtually - and, the tests are either “yes or no” answers, or - I’ve heard - include the possibility of multiple choice questions on the final.
Not sure if I should do this… since finals aren’t too far away. Here’s a question from one of their upcoming finals.
The state Capitol of Ohio is in what city?
- Toledo
- Cleveland
- Columbus
- Dayton
I think you're giving them too much credit. The actual question is more like:
Which city has served as the State Capitol of Ohio (select only one):
A) Chillicothe
B) Zanesville
C) Across the river from Franklinton (Wolf's Ridge)
D) Columbus
Aggie, the following is a question that's being evaluated for another one of their finals. Again, my apologies for compromising the integrity of these final exams - I really feel bad doing this, but - I want those guys to pass their tests.
Who owns the Ohio State football team?
- The people of the state of Ohio
- The Regents and Trustees of the Ohio State University
- The Ohio State University student body and all OSU Alumni
- The Michigan Wolverines
Giving Urban too much credit, Jim Jordan was teaching OSU ethics way before Urban arrived.
Let's not try to make something out of nothing here. So he was drinking and flipped an ATV. Who cares. I'll bet most farm boys in the country have done something similar to this. I've flipped Atvs sober. I've done stupid shit while drinking. Lots of dumb crap happens in the country side like this.
Drag a boat with a bunch of family behind a Blazer through a hay field, why not? Shoot each other with bb guns while flying by on an atv, sounds like a blast. All stuff my cousins, friends and I did when younger. It really was a great time. I'd go back and do that all over again. It was a way better time then the world we live in today. This isn't news, and the only thing to learn from it is to don't flip the ATV. Especially don't get hurt enough to go to the hospital, and really don't get hurt doing this while drinking. There's probably not a whole heck of alot of teams that are not immune to something like this happening.
Agreed man.
Totally did things like:
(1) Full on hand-sharpened sword fights with wooden planks
(2) crabapple fights in NOVEMBER when they are basically little rocks
(3) jackass style shit shooting BB guns at each others groins wearing a cup
(4) Lighting bottle rockets and shooting them at each other AS we rode bikes at each other like we are jousting
Yeah, we were dumb but it was a blast.
Correct, with one caveat (that is really important): none of us have been high profile football coaches for a public university. But otherwise I’m totally with you both.
Agree Beeks, Another caveat, who the hell does this shit @ 36 with a family when you should be mature enough to know better.
Some of you must live in a bubble. If drinking and riding is "this shit" it happens every weekend, and probably during the week, during the snowmobile season in Michigan. Lots of people from 21 to 60+ ride from bar to bar. And I'm sure it happens during the summer when the ORV trails are open. I'm not saying it's right, but it's happening way more than you'd think. I used to do it, not so much anymore.
Go to the Hideaway Bar over by Mancelona on a Friday or Saturday night in the winter. Place will be packed with people on snowmobiles getting absolutely hammered. I started to not be anywhere near there after dark, especially around 9 or 10. Honestly, I'm surprised that more accidents don't happen in that area. Or Andy's bar in Seney. The list could go on and on.
(5) remember when MTV did the Jersey Shore of Appalachia, in West Virginia, and the main character and two others died mud boggin his pickup at 4am when his muffler got clogged with mud and car filled with carbon monoxide. Those were the days, such a blast.
Mud boggin at 4am, yup, done that. Almost anyone who's lived in the sticks, or grew up on a farm has done that. You must have grew up in the city. At the end of the day, one could die mud boggin at 4am, or you could die crossing the street in the city.
Judging by how your posts are, you're from the city. If so, you'll never understand people who live/grew up in the country. Just like I will never understand how anyone in their right mind would want to live in the city.
This is one of the most condescending things I've ever read on here
But also, I live in Northern Michigan.
Sorry, I am not going to apologize for looking down on drunk ATV crashes. Or TMZ showing up in your backyard bro.
Obviously not the UP, I get TMZ.
In northern Michigan, in a city, though, right?
My kids:
Hit real golf balls in the back yard and broke windows.
Were playing Wii in front of the big screen TV and the controller flew out of someone's hand and into the screen, breaking it, spider web style. No one told us this happened, and we found the screen broken later that night and had to do major detective work to figure out what happened. New TV was required.
My son, on his first outing driving with me after he got his permit, did this, but on our street, and then we had to pay for the damage to the other car:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ_EKHGgWJQ
Did he do the groaning thing as well?
Q: What's the last thing a redneck says before he dies?
A: "Watch this."
April 18th, 2023 at 12:40 PM ^
Another correct answer would be, “hold my beer.”
4) bottle rocket fight INDOORS at our college house on Washtenaw Ct
Farm “boys” is the key here. Hartline is 36 years old and is supposed to be the one leading young men. I’ve personally known two people who have died in my lifetime on rec vehicles. One was a teenager that flipped a golf cart and crushed her skull and the other was an “adult” in his 50’s at a field party drinking and was a passenger on a side by side and he died. Sad thing is his wife had to live through her son also dying on an atv as a teenager about ten years prior. I don’t think it can be as easily dismissed as a meh moment.
It would be a nothing burger if Hartline was just some random guy. But he’s not just some random guy.
He’s the OC of one of the most prominent programs in America. He’s supposed to be a leader of men and his success (or failure) at his job will almost certainly define OSU’s season and the trajectory of Ryan Day’s program. OSU is absolutely at a crossroads right now with how the end of the last two seasons have gone for them.
I’m not saying he should be fired, or even suspended necessarily. The act by itself isn’t the worst thing he could’ve done. But it was still a dumb choice to make because of what’s at stake, not just for his career but the trajectory of the program he’s supposed to help lead. It’s not a big deal for schmucks like us because we have nothing at stake compared to him.
When you’re in the position he’s in, the stakes are higher for everything you do, and with that is supposed to come a higher standard for which you should be getting held to. In everything that you do.
I’d be saying the same thing if if Moore, Jay-Baugh, Hart, Minter, or anyone else on Harbaugh’s staff did this.
April 17th, 2023 at 10:52 PM ^
It would be nothing if he was young and single. But now he married and has a responsibility to his family to not be a reckless dumbass. It is way more than failure to be a role model. It is failure of duty.
Thank you Mrs. Hartline. We will take it easy on your boy.
April 17th, 2023 at 10:50 PM ^
I don't waste many opportunities to dump on the Bucknuts, but to do so when someone gets hurt, it makes us sound like RCMB.
So he was drinking and flipped an ATV. Who cares
I mean it likely meets the Ohio state law definition of a DUI but who cares!
i hope he makes a full recovery from whatever injuries he sustained, so he’s 100% healthy when we kick his teams’s ass again.
This is more violent than Chicago
More importantly, what does this have to do with the pizza in Chicago?
Eternally grateful that I was a teen late 70s/early 80s, and that essentially zero of the dumb stuff I did is recorded anywhere except a challengeable memory!
I hope that he recovers and continues to have a successful enough career that he moves on to a better job outside the Big Ten.
ATVs can be fun, but dangerous--I had a high school classmate die over the weekend due to an ATV accident. (Fortunately for me she was one of the very few out of over 300 I did not know. Not fortunate for her or her family or many friends, however.)
So, as the OP mentioned, I do hope this is a teachable moment for people everywhere.
If he was in his teens or early 20s I'd think it was par for the course. But he's a 36-year-old man who's OC at one of the most prominent CFB programs in the country. Drinking and riding an ATV at night is beyond just being dumb or, as some seem to think, just being a farm boy. That's a "I have a serious drinking problem" and/or "i have CTE" level of poor decision making.
Glad he is ok, but he could have been seriously injured if this was the corn field he was drunkenly driving through:
https://travelinspiredliving.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Cornhenge-in-Dublin-Ohio.jpg.webp
Cool story bro. Neato.
I'm glad he's not seriously injured.
if he thought that crash was violent.... wait until his offense crashes and burns in Ann Arbor in November.
I guess if you're into rubbernecking...go for it