Frankie Collins vs. Brandon Johns Jr and Zeb Jackson open thread

Submitted by Bosch on November 16th, 2022 at 8:20 PM

I'm not sure who we match up better with but I'll be on VCU's corner in this game solely on how each player opted out of the program. 

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November 16th, 2022 at 10:31 PM ^

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TheBlueAbides

November 16th, 2022 at 9:37 PM ^

Saw Collins went off in his first game and was bummed because I believe the up side of starting jones over him wasn’t worth the trade off of getting him experience for this year, then I saw it took him a boat load of shots to get there. Time will tell, I think Collins is a good player. John’s had a ceiling and was streaky but thank him for his time. No clue about zeb but wish him luck, something never worked out with him.

charblue.

November 16th, 2022 at 9:16 PM ^

None of our former guys are making a material difference in a game being played late the first half. With the score near halftime,  2-0 VCU leads AZ St. 2-1 by 7, 35-28. Johns has 2 points, Jackson a rebound for VCU. Collins has 4 rebounds and 1 point. 

charblue.

November 16th, 2022 at 9:21 PM ^

At the half, VCU is beating Arizona State by 7. 35-28. None of our transfers are making a significant contribution. Brandon Johns, listed at center, has a basket, Zeb Jackson has gone scoreless with a rebound. Frankie Collins has 4 rebounds and one point from the free throw line. 

RXwolverine

November 16th, 2022 at 9:38 PM ^

As much as the doomsday fans were talking about Howard struggling without Beilein recruits we forget that some of those Beilein recruits turned out awful aka johns, Chatman, Zeb, brundige, vogrich. All these guys were solid 4 star recruits and none of them contributed any solid minutes or had any any impact on the season that they played in. Juwan is doing a fabulous job. Trust the process!

Qmatic

November 16th, 2022 at 9:48 PM ^

Johns was a big contributor on an Elite Eight team. Vogrich was a good contributor on tournament teams in 2011 and 2012 but just got passed up by more talented young guys who Beilein recruited. Chatman was overrated and rushed into playing time too early, but if not for him we don’t make the tournament in 2016. Brundridge was immediately passed by Burke. Zeb, seemed like some personal things got in the way.

Beilein was as good of a recruiter and developer there was.

nerv

November 17th, 2022 at 7:29 AM ^

I will not abide this Brandon Johns slander. He was a game in game out contributor for 4 years on a bunch of really successful teams that wouldnt have been as good without him. Consistency and staying out of his own way seemed to be the biggest factors limiting Johns. If he regularly gets 25+ mpg it may all click for him and Im hoping that happens this seasons. 

Bosch

November 16th, 2022 at 10:36 PM ^

Ugly game.  If Michigan plays like they did tonight, they'll win comfortably... which means get ready for a nail biter with Collins going off for 30 points.

charblue.

November 16th, 2022 at 10:37 PM ^

Michigan will face Arizona State in tomorrow's Barclay's Center finale after former Wolverine Frankie Collins led a second half comeback against Virginia Commonwealth, beating the Rams 63-59. After scoring just a single point in the first half, Collins led the Sun Devils in scoring in the second half with 14. 

Indy Pete - Go Blue

November 16th, 2022 at 10:38 PM ^

Emoni Bates was so hungry to show what he could do vs Michigan - Frankie Collins is going to be an even different level of motivation. Should be a fun one to watch.  If Frankie gets going, Hungry Hunter will assert himself with full emotion - just like he did to beat Emoni. I love having Hunter on my favorite team. 

nerv

November 17th, 2022 at 7:34 AM ^

He is definitely not going to be hitting absurd step back 3's and long guns against us. Collins range is effectively the free throw line but this will also be a test to see who can stay in front of him off the bounce. Im thinking we start off with Kobe on him who definitely had a bit of a break out game as an on ball defender last night. In my head I see him swatting a Frankie attempted layup early in the game and whispering "those who stay will be champions" as they setup the in bound.

Maximinus Thrax

November 17th, 2022 at 10:24 AM ^

A few days ago I put out a help wanted notice because an employee quit on me.  An ex-employee shared the posting on social media with a bunch of emojis and said "Karma is a bitch".  This individual and I got along very well and one day after about a year I mentioned a complaint I had received about him from another department.  I basically dismissed it, but asked him to refrain from the behavior that caused the complaint.  He broke down crying and walked out never to return from what I think of as a very good job.  Now apparently I am the villain despite the fact that I gave him glowing reviews and was very flexible with his hours and accommodated a LOT of last minute time-off requests for obvious false reasons without saying a word.  

My point is that a lot of people are idiots and feel themselves to be aggrieved for any number of reasons.  Realistically, most of these individuals are 110% responsible for their own issues though.  So, no matter how mad somebody might be, the problems that plagued them before will continue to plague them.  Michigan should not worry about a peeved Frankie.