Dante Moore recruitment takes another turn
The claim is UCLA offered him NFL 1st rd pick money. I don't know what to believe anymore.
https://mikefarrellsports.com/recruiting/the-latest-in-the-dante-moore-saga
December 19th, 2022 at 11:12 AM ^
They say “They say” is undefeated.
December 19th, 2022 at 11:17 AM ^
“They” and “She” seem to say or have said a lot of things.
December 19th, 2022 at 11:24 AM ^
"That's what"
-She
December 19th, 2022 at 12:04 PM ^
First, I don't buy the $$$. UCLA is not a rich school. Are they borrowing against future B10 TV $$$’s ? Maybe.
Second, maybe this is an ‘agent’ smokescreen to get Oregon to update their NIL offer. Kids are getting ruthless today with their so-called ‘parents’ making decisions for them.
Third, assume this was true. Paying ‘NFL $$’s’ to a college Freshman sets what type of expectations for the NFL year 1 contracts? Players could make LESS in the NFL than college. This will put upward pressure on future NFL collective bargaining agreements.
December 19th, 2022 at 12:08 PM ^
I don't buy that this will effect the future NFL bargaining agreements (even if true). That is set by the league and the players association and the players association has to worry about more than just entry level quarterbacks. Plus, what is the kid going to do, not go to the NFL when his college eligibility is up? The NFL doesn't care when kids declare. They will take them when the kids have no other options for making money on football and are willing to fit into their pre-determined slot system.
December 19th, 2022 at 12:31 PM ^
He flipped so maybe true
December 19th, 2022 at 12:36 PM ^
NIL doesn't come from the school. It comes from boosters/fans both individuals and companies.
December 19th, 2022 at 2:49 PM ^
Don’t fool yourself. These top recruits are being promised huge money anymore. Bryce Young made over a million dollars last year who knows how much he’s taking in this year.
Some type of regulation is going to have to be put into place to keep this from getting crazier Some type of salary cap
December 19th, 2022 at 3:11 PM ^
Third, assume this was true. Paying ‘NFL $$’s’ to a college Freshman...
That's not what the story is saying. It's saying that he's bein g offered the same kinds of NIL money as other college players deemed to be first-round draft choices.
December 19th, 2022 at 12:19 PM ^
Good response. If you are too wrapped up in this, you could use a girlfriend, or someone to remind you that life is short.
December 19th, 2022 at 2:29 PM ^
I was going for the "soap opera recruitment" angle, but I like your more philosophical take better. 😊
December 19th, 2022 at 1:26 PM ^
Marlena Evans FTW!
December 19th, 2022 at 11:12 AM ^
The quote from the article is: "UCLA is treating him as a first round pick so to speak — figuratively and monetarily". That is extremely vague and not necessarily the same as actual NFL 1st round pick money.
December 19th, 2022 at 11:36 AM ^
Yes...everything is relative. I interpret this as, compared to other NIL deals, this one is far superior. That is what "so to speak" and "figuratively" mean. That is very different from "1st round pick money".
December 19th, 2022 at 3:59 PM ^
How so?
UCLA isn't even on the blip on the radar by school or the top 10 deals in 2022.
And all of a sudden (even figuratively) UCLA is throwing big money at a recruit -- someone who isn't even on campus yet?
No.
Think man!
UCLA the school isn't rolling in dough.
UCLA isn't even the most popular program in its own city.
Perhaps UCLA is rolling out all the stops compared to what they've done on their own in the past -- I'll believe the numbers rather than this speculation, when I see it. grossag nailed it.
December 19th, 2022 at 4:42 PM ^
The schools don't pay NIL so it's irrelevant if the school is rolling in dough (and ftr, the AD might struggle to make ends meet but the university is rolling in dough with the fourth largest endowment amongst public school systems). UCLA alums and sponsors pay NIL.
And there is some huge money around the institution.
It's not NFL first round money but the article said it was better than Oregon's offer and I believe it. It's not really out of nowhere.
UCLA had a good football season to remind it's major donors and sponsors how fun being good at football is and they want to keep it going. PLUS, they have a very big rivalry with USC. They aren't going to just sit around watching USC build themselves back up without trying to keep up.
Seems totally reasonable (I'm an LA resident and got my masters from UCLA, fwiw).
December 19th, 2022 at 9:25 PM ^
The schools don't pay NIL so it's irrelevant if the school is rolling in dough
Correct.
But the wealth of the school is directly proportional to those who donate to it. A fair chunk of NIL funds are coming from the same people the school courts for donations.
December 19th, 2022 at 4:40 PM ^
Exactly. It didn't say NFL first round money.
Recruiting is essentially a draft now so it's likely meant as "first round" college draft money, ie amongst the top 25-30ish offers in his class which given his recruiting ranking - obviously.
And the context is that he liked ASU because the Oregon OC went there but they couldn't offer the money that UCLA and Oregon were offering. This was still college money. Not NFL money.
December 19th, 2022 at 11:12 AM ^
I kind of miss the old days when they just got a car under the table.
December 19th, 2022 at 11:15 AM ^
I would like to see photo evidence of this so called car under a table.
December 19th, 2022 at 11:49 AM ^
Negged for lack of table.
December 19th, 2022 at 12:23 PM ^
I asked an AI to draw a "car under a table". This is what it did:
Stupid AI
December 19th, 2022 at 12:41 PM ^
Uh, maybe there's a much bigger table just out of view at the top of the screen. You never said the AI also had to draw the table under which the car sits.
And maybe our universe is just the tip of a fingernail of a much greater universe. I think I learned that from Animal House.
December 19th, 2022 at 12:01 PM ^
....and don't forget about his Vette....
December 19th, 2022 at 11:21 AM ^
I still don't see the table ...
December 19th, 2022 at 11:29 AM ^
Sweet looking Firebird 👍
Is that a Trans Am or a Formula?
I bought a brand new 77 Formula back in the day. 350 v-8 four barrel carb. Had a buddy 's brother replace the factory jets with bigger ones that really made her go!!!! Also killed the gas mileage . Traded it in when gas prices skyrocketed in 1980😂
December 19th, 2022 at 11:32 AM ^
Ask Eric Dickerson..
December 19th, 2022 at 11:51 AM ^
they called it the Trans A&M
December 19th, 2022 at 11:50 AM ^
Rhino77 probably wins the comments today.
December 19th, 2022 at 12:59 PM ^
Or the parents received a McDonald's bag of cash...
December 19th, 2022 at 11:13 AM ^
I believe Dante represents one end of the NIL spectrum, not that I have a problem with his working to maximum his earning potential. Everyone else in his line of work is. The adults in the room haven’t set the best example.
December 19th, 2022 at 11:45 AM ^
There is absolutely nothing wrong with what Dante is doing. But it's clear he wasn't going to fit at UM and it's curious that we didn't look for alternatives sooner.
December 19th, 2022 at 11:52 AM ^
Did UM continue to recruit him? I only recall fans lamenting the staff's lack of effort with regard to recruiting Moore so it seems the coaches knew he wasn't a fit.
December 19th, 2022 at 3:45 PM ^
I have no idea if UM continued to recruit him. My point was simply that they did not seem to aggressively pursue anyone else, which seems like a risky (if not poor) strategy.
I hope they stopped recruiting him, but I'm wondering why alternatives were not pursued.
December 19th, 2022 at 11:14 AM ^
Didn't Miami or another Flordia school offer some 4* kid like 8 million for committing there? Makes sense for Moore to go to the highest bidder at this point. I just don't know how it can stay like this for the long run.
But whatever school gets him and pays for him is for sure going to expect him to win the Heisman and the national championship.
December 19th, 2022 at 11:46 AM ^
I agree. This kid could still get a truly life-changing amount of money AND get excellent coaching/skill development at a school that will compete for championships or he could go to UCLA. Maybe he really does like UCLA and Oregon the same and it'll be a win/win for him because he'll be rich and get to be on a team he really loves, but the amount of pressure that will be on him from the day he sets foot on campus onwards will be absurd.
December 19th, 2022 at 12:12 PM ^
I think those numbers are bloated…saw something that said Caleb Williams made the most off NIL with around $3M this year. Highly doubt a kid who hasn’t passed a ball is getting $8M next season. The ppl behind the scenes at some of these schools just throw numbers out there to get media attention and know it may attract other prospects to reach out.
December 19th, 2022 at 12:20 PM ^
The quoted number for high school recruits is generally for a 4 year career
December 19th, 2022 at 12:36 PM ^
Even still I don’t buy it, just propaganda to get out there. Most guys are getting a few bucks & car/SUV and are being sent on their way. This notion recruits are getting “$8M for signing” is just things to get clicks and attention.
December 19th, 2022 at 12:16 PM ^
No its Tennessee and the kid signed
December 19th, 2022 at 11:14 AM ^
I was told that Tuck was coming. Was it all a lie?
Also: UCLA took the QB from Kent State as a transfer, so there is another modest impediment to Moore being an immediate factor if that's important to him. It may not be.
December 19th, 2022 at 11:19 AM ^
That article has to sting for MSU. Personally I laughed between 5-7 minutes.
December 19th, 2022 at 11:23 AM ^
3-9 minutes for me.
December 19th, 2022 at 12:11 PM ^
95 Million for me!
December 19th, 2022 at 11:22 AM ^
I doubt Moore is real concerned with a QB that totaled 2500 yards and 18 TDs (rushing and passing combined) in the MAC.
Schlee may surprise (I like his upside personally), but on the surface that seems like a fairly easy obstacle to overcome.