Clocks will run after first downs in college football with NCAA set to change.
The NCAA Football Rules Committee said Friday that it was recommending changes to first down procedures and timeouts as it looks for ways to speed up football games. Game length has been an ongoing issue in college football with many FBS games taking over 3.5 hours to complete without overtime involved.
I absolutely HATE this.
The idiots. The games run long because of the additional commercials compared to the pro game. Now we are going to sit just as long when the actual number of plays goes down and the percentage of commercial time increases.
The people running the show are fundamentally clowns. They looked at excessively long games and decided they'd rather change rules of the sport than simply find ways to have less commercial breaks
This is instance #3,348 of where the morons running this sport will chose to make it worse time and time again if they can make a few more dollars
Just integrate commercials into the in game telecast during reviews, short stoppages, and replays
This is a good change. It will mostly affect Big 12-style games where nobody plays defense and each team has 25-30 first downs per game. There's no reason a college football game should have 90-100 plays per team. I think it'll have a relatively minimal impact on Michigan games.
Idea to consider: spiking the ball to stop the clock could be called intentional grounding.
Rationale: it actually is intentional grounding, and it would be a lot more entertaining if the offense had to run a real play in a hurry up situation.
It would not force them to run a play in actuality. A QB could just get the snap and throw the ball over a wideout's head by 10 yards. It would take another second or two but it could still be done.
Uhh ...with JH's clock management at end of halves (SF and NCAA) this is a big one even with the stoppages in final 2 minutes. (Our typical drive is 8 minutes)
Apparently it was just approved. This is pretty crazy to me. This is a BIG change. It would seem like this was something they would test out in bowl games or something to at least allow players to start adjusting or would have announced a couple of years before implementation. I really, really don't like this change and think it may be reconsidered after getting some feedback.
This will affect play style and will discourage run heavy teams.
As a stakeholder engagement exercise, I am seeing almost 2 pages of "Ads are the problem" and about 2 comments that are, probably sarcastic, but in favor of the change. I wonder what sort of stakeholder engagement the NCAA rules committee undertakes before enacting new rules. I'll bet they asked Fox, ESPN, CBS and NBC.
I think we need to be clear about this: college football's stakeholders are the CMOs at Draft Kings and Dr Pepper.
It's the fucking commercials for God's sake. Please.
Not a fan. I thoroughly enjoy the college game more than the NFL and I think they are slowly ruining a few of the aspects that make it special. For example, the old CFB overtime was a perfect system and that was replaced. I just hope they don’t change PI to a spot foul eventually.
I don't think this will make much of a difference. Seems to me that over the last few years refs have only stopped the clock for a couple seconds after most first downs.
I don't think this will make much of a difference. Seems to me that over the last few years refs have only stopped the clock for a couple seconds after most first downs.
You know what they should do? Picture in picture. Let the game play out normally, and instead of having stoppages for commercials just run continuous ads in the corner of the screen. Win win.
They wouldn't stop there. Idiocracy is their road map.
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It works in NASCAR but the action on track is much different than on the gridiron in CFB. Who gets the nat-sound? Would it be the football game or the commercial?
Your idea could work but the scrolling of the ads at the corner of the screen would yield less $$.
i hate this - itll be a clown show. it already is at the end of games. its college. nobody who watches college thinks... less of this. i go into serious sadness at the end of the college season. f no.
Boo. They should shorten halftime and do combo- screen ads, obviously. Assholes.
From a tweet by Dennis Dodd (CBS Sports):
PROP approves rules changes for all except — surprisingly — Division III, which pushed back.
Surprisingly??? It can't be all that hard to work out what's different about D3 football.
If they are going to get rid of clock stoppage on first downs and do nothing about commercials, then maybe they should also add partial timeouts like college basketball has to preserve some of the strategic value of clock stopping plays. Otherwise, they are again inadvertently shifting the game toward more passing by forcing teams to sideline routes or intentional incompletions to preserve time. This will work against teams built to run the ball.
Stop trying to make money and have commercials every snap. That’ll make ‘em shorter.
Ridiculous. Cut three commercials a quarter and eight from halftime, and watch it speed up that way.
How about split screen advertisements during replay reviews, so we don't have to hear the announcers drone on and on about the review. Could still show different angles of the replay on the other half of the screen...
Disclaimer: my knee-jerk reaction is always to get pissy about rules changes no matter the sport.
That said, I don't know why they have this rationale of trying to be more like the NFL? So what if college has 25 more plays per game? The caveat is if injuries come way down with fewer plays.
My main gripe is this will prevent some of the up-tempo, shoot-out style games that a lot of CFB fans like to see. PAC-12 games, MAC games, air raid stuff. One of the reasons I've become much more invested in CFB over the NFL in the past decade+ is the variety of teams, games, and styles. I'm not thrilled with them trying to remove some of that variety.
The games are waaaaay too long and slow, mostly because of commercial timeouts. But still. Go for it.
Also: limit reviews to 2 minutes. If you can't decide by then, call stands.
Finally, make a team's 3rd timeout be 30 seconds.
Seems like minor league football is here. Amateur college football is history for Division 1 colleges. These rules changes are just part of the program. NIL is the big landscape changer. In the future, people will be looking on the past 100 years as the golden age of college football and envious of our experiences. It's inevitable that Division 1 schools must separate from the others in the NCAA with an entirely different set of rules and expectations.
Good luck to us Wolverine fans! Go Blue, if at all possible!
Games are longer because of the 3.5 minute commercial breaks they have every 10 minutes.
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Anything to get to the commercials faster.
BOOOOOO!
osu fans 2023 excuse, "We would have won but the clock doesn't stop on first downs anymore."
Shorten half time to NFL 12 minutes, cap reviews to :90. Let’s start there
30 second maximum commercials. 2 timeouts per half, 60 second max reviews, one commercial max after a change of possession, 15 minute halftime
Most commercials are :30. The biggest problem is how many commercials per pod there are: some have as many as 5! That's the problem: 1.5-3 minutes of commercials per break
This! From the same genius minds that brought you the BCS for 20 years, and prior to that, 100 years of no national championship game, and then a 4 team playoff for ten years, that was also terribly short sighted.
The problem here is that you are expecting complete idiots to do something smart. Not going to happen.
My crystal ball shows me a board room full of morbidly obese good ole boys with lizard tongues and T-rex arms, pretending to smoke cigars while choking down dry hotel buffet food. They literally can't help you do things the right way.
So Michigan on the road, trails. Every first time there is a first down, the chain gang takes their sweet time setting the chains - the officials won't allow play to continue, but the clock runs.
Hate the new rule, but if it is in place make it the last three or five minutes of the half to revert to the old rule. This hurts teams coming from behind especially (obviously) as stopping the clock gives them a better chance to substitute.
[if they honestly think there are too many plays, stop the clock temporarily on incomplete passes instead. Otherwise, get rid of the three minute commercial breaks, shorten halftime, use up replay and injury time outs for commercial breaks to reduce/eliminate the others, etc.]
Anybody know: what is the length of non-televised 60 minute games at the D2 and D3 levels?
I am also wondering what is the length of games (time or play-wise) for predominantly run teams like the military academies who throw the ball a dozen times versus, say hurry-up air raid teams that throw the ball 60+ times a game.
First thing I did was to look this up for the two programs I follow. Chicago doesn't list time of game in their box scores but Oberlin does. Games last year ranged from 2:09 to 3:14 with an average of 2:44, 38 minutes shorter than the FBS average.
Fuck this. I want to see more plays you dumb fuck assholes. I don't drive hours to get to Ann Arbor to watch a shorter game with less football and the same amount of ads. I actually like being at the game when there's actual action. I like run plays. Fuck you NCAA and whoever thinks this is a good idea. Fucking fucks. Fuck!
April 21st, 2023 at 10:28 PM ^
I've learned that I can simply spend 90 minutes doing something else, start the game, skip all commercials and halftime, and in general be caught up with the action sometime in the 4th quarter.
Living on the west coast really changes your sports viewing experience and this method made it easier to watch those noon eastern games.
April 21st, 2023 at 10:38 PM ^
Unfettered capitalism fueled by greed is gradually ruining my favorite sport. Let's get rid of all the uniqueness in college football while adding commercials and advertisements everywhere. I've got an idea: Charge premium rates for sponsers who will provide commercial free quarters in football, Fill in the quarter breaks with whatever commercials and profit. I know it will never happen, but they're fucking with the actual rules now.
I see into the future. I see old timey festivals where they ritualistically chase a costumed demon out of the village every year. I see the demon: it’s a man in a red shirt and red hat. He killed college football and must be driven to the ends of the earth.
Personally do not care how long Michigan football games run. There are only a handful of fall Saturdays I get to sit back, relax and enjoy watching our Wolverines.
If they really want to cut down the length of games the first thing they should look at is the amount of commercial breaks they have during the game. But that is their money maker so it will not be addressed.
Why don’t they just increase the cost of a commercial by 10% across the board.
This would result in a revenue neutral position - and, they could reduce the length of the game by runnng fewer commercials.
April 22nd, 2023 at 10:24 AM ^
Don't worry commercials will still allow the game to push to almost 4 hours.
April 22nd, 2023 at 10:26 AM ^
It isn't the game that needs speeding up. Football is fine. It's the absurd amount of TV timeouts and being bombarded with more ads than game time. It wasn't always like this and it doesn't have to be like this. I get the importance of ad revenue, but there comes a point where there's just too much and it's detrimental to the quality of the product.
April 22nd, 2023 at 11:19 AM ^
Stopping the clock after a first down is earned is one of the best, possibly THE best rule in college football for a variety of reasons.
What's next, a lame, NFL-style, "two-minute warning?"
If they go through with this change it is basically the death of college football and eventual resurrection as NFL Jr.
This is like going to the doctor with a broken arm and they amputate your leg.
There’s nothing wrong the the GAME. The problem is the obscene amount of commercials.
Politics and advertising will persist as long as the public is willing to tolerate them. Put up with it, change it, or shut up.
Or don't. It's always hilarious to see idiots screaming up at the clouds.