Brian Griese Says Big Ten Made a Mistake By Cancelling the Season Early

Submitted by ItOffishul on September 10th, 2020 at 8:27 AM

Brian Griese says that the kids are ones who are suffering because of the decision to cancel the season early, and says he never would have been drafted or even met his wife if he hadn't been allowed to play his senior season. 

“It’s that game of sliding doors that is real for seniors that are playing in college right now that are not potentially going to have an opportunity to fulfill that dream, and that’s what bothers me the most.”

I agree with Brian 100%...Taking an entire year off would be absolutely devastating to these kids and their future careers and social life, not to mention the Michigan football program itself.

Link: Former National Champion QB Brian Griese: Big Ten “Made a Mistake” by Cancelling Football Season Early

ndscott50

September 10th, 2020 at 9:48 AM ^

Also not the same group of people who refuse to wear mask. Many people who follow all the recommended precautions think we can use those precautions to do things like sports and school. 
 

I am sick of people who try to portray everyone who is concerned about the cost of canceling and closing things like sports/school as a bunch of conspiracy theory nut jobs. It’s just a lame way to hide from the complexities of the issue and the real damage that closings (right or wrong) cause. 

Sambojangles

September 10th, 2020 at 9:12 AM ^

It's too early to say whether or not it is the correct call. There is still a chance that playing in the ACC, B12, SEC, or other conferences blows up in their face. In terms of bad outcomes, best case scenario is so many games get postponed/cancelled that the season isn't legitimate and the conference championships are a joke. Worst case is COVID outbreaks among teams result in serious sickness/death among players/coaches/staff (which is incremental to not playing). It's impossible to judge until the end when all facts are known - so far, no major conference games have been played.

That being said, every day that actual games get closer it's looking like it would have been possible for the B10 to pull it off. I'm not in the details of every team, but from afar I've seen teams do plenty of testing, isolating outbreaks, and postponing games when necessary. Maybe the B10 could have done the same. Again, too early to know one way or another. 

joeismyname

September 10th, 2020 at 11:07 AM ^

And this is why, at minimum, the B1G should try and let kids play and see what happens nationwide. At least make the effort to make it look like you care about the kids having a season as the other leagues are doing. Then maybe you mitigate some of the recruiting and future damage that has certainly been done to every program in the B1G. The precedent has now been set. The B1G will not look at the glaring evidence of there being ZERO hospitalizations from any school or its athletes/students and that speaks of how willing they are to shut down football in the future too at the drop of a hat. I mean, to me it’s clear the presidents really don’t care about that section of their student body (at least ours doesn’t, as he never has spoken to the team, I mean Michigan fergodsakes, does he even know?) and the Presidents of other schools in other conferences set the precedent that they will do anything to make sure their athletic programs are in full swing. Seriously, if you were a high caliber athlete looking to choose between a school in the B1G or SEC/ACC/Big12 now, which would you choose? 

The B1G is SMUing itself. I’m starting to think only OSU will make it out this mostly unscathed because my God they always seem to fall upwards.  

 

End of today’s rant 

M Go Cue

September 10th, 2020 at 9:16 AM ^

I suspect that the B1G wanted to be the first to lead (as they always do ?) by closing it down, and was a little surprised that the other conferences didn’t get in line.

If they had simply pushed the decision out my guess is that we would still be planning on a season.

Just my two cents.

bronxblue

September 10th, 2020 at 11:29 AM ^

I think they read the data and trends at the time and, as did the Pac-12, saw issues they weren't willing to accept.  Other conferences looked at the same information and felt otherwise.  If the NCAA had been more coherent and powerful then I think they could have made a single statement (season is on/off) and that would have made the situation easier.

But even now you see games being cancelled because of outbreaks.  Your mindset basically has to be "the benefits outweigh the risks" or "the risks are too great", and nothing materially changed on those fronts in the past couple of months.  We've been averaging about 1k deaths a day for a couple months now.  

ak47

September 10th, 2020 at 9:16 AM ^

Why do we keep posting the opinions of people whose opinions are meaningless during a public health emergency. Football players want to play football is about 10% of what should be going in to whether to play football. Other more important factors to consider:

-Does it increase the risk of outbreak or spread?

-Is it putting others lives at risk who don't get a say in the matter?

-Will the testing resources necessary impact the ability to provide needed tests to the community?

-Is it a necessary function to society whose positives outweigh the negative risks of doing something more risky during a pandemic?

None of those questions can be objectively answered by the people actually involved in playing football and all are more important and consequential than Brian Griese's opinion.

uminks

September 11th, 2020 at 2:32 AM ^

You can say the same about the Michigan campus and dorms being open and COVID spreading like wildfire. At least the football team is monitored and tested for COVID. The remainder of the student body are not! So the spread will be worse from the general student body.

HateSparty

September 10th, 2020 at 9:18 AM ^

Well, with his "Individualized Concentration" degree from Michigan, he should be up there near the podium for every Trump COVID briefing.  I am sure he would have a fan of his opinion somewhere near him.

285matt

September 10th, 2020 at 9:19 AM ^

It's sad to say, but are the Big 10 banking on there being an outbreak? Should an outbreak happen, this will blow over and everyone will say they made the right decision. But does the Big 10 not trust the facilities and programs of their schools? 

 

So programs like Central Arkansas are better prepared, and have trust in their COVID response and prevention, than Michigan?  If so, then that's a whole other issue that needs to be addressed. 

Njia

September 10th, 2020 at 9:27 AM ^

At the time, canceling the season seemed like a wise decision based on both what was known and not known about the impact the disease would have on players and coaches. Considering that the B1G walked away from hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue as a result means that, on balance, the perceived risks far outweighed any benefits to the schools or the players. 

But, in retrospect, a decision to delay the season by a month, pending what might or might not happen when school resumed, would have been prudent. I don't know if that option was considered, but the university presidents and ADs should have worked harder to vet a path that delayed a final decision. Canceling the season a month before it started wasn't it.

Durham Blue

September 10th, 2020 at 9:52 AM ^

Totally agree with all of this.  The most prudent approach is to PLAN for a delayed start date.  Pick one date (in October or November if you want to play it really safe) where you say anything past this would yield a crappy season that doesn't add value.  Then put that in writing so all B1G teams are working to a common goal.  Then also put in writing, if X/Y/Z metrics in regard to COVID, testing, team infections, etc, are not achieved by this time then the season will be canceled.  It's objective and clear to the B1G teams and the general public.  What's so fucking hard about that?  It's a data driven plan to make a go/no go decision.

samsoccer7

September 10th, 2020 at 9:33 AM ^

Cool story bro: his senior year girlfriend went to my high school and i knew her, and was friends with her sister.  He came to our high school winter homecoming with the girlfriend and my roommate and I met him and he was very nice. 

By the way, he met his wife in Denver when he was a QB (says internet) so I suppose he wouldn't have met her had he not played his senior year and gotten drafted and played in the NFL.  But that's kind of a stretch.

MGlobules

September 10th, 2020 at 9:36 AM ^

We get it, Brian Griese makes his living from football. He went to my school, and he brought it some glory, so props for that. But Brian Griese is a pretty good example of how mediocre can climb up a ladder if his father is also sending down a rope. Just not a wildly inspired human, from anything I could ever discern. And since many of the sport's followers also fill that bill, some will embrace his comment.  

ndscott50

September 10th, 2020 at 10:37 AM ^

Is it really necessary to shit on Brian because he offered an opinion you did not like and who his dad is? If you wanted to have an honest discussion about him we could note that yes, he was a often a jerk when he was younger – as were many of us.  He went on the have a decent ten-year NFL career that had nothing to do with his dad. He also has done some good in the world.

https://www.judishouse.org/history

MGlobules

September 10th, 2020 at 1:37 PM ^

When saying that someone is not wildly inspired is shitting on them--pissing, for that matter-- let us all know. Meanwhile, I stand by my comment. Anyone who thinks that Brian is commentating Monday Night Football because of his mellifluous voice or magnificent insights is shitting THEMSELVES. When Amurrica really becomes the meritocracy that some people pretend it is the Brian Grieses of this world will be watching from the corner bar. 

 

P.S. No, not the way that intelligent people cross the street.

Ryno2317

September 10th, 2020 at 6:23 PM ^

Do you think the fact that Brian:  (1) won a national championship for one of the most popular college programs and/or (2) was a multi-year starter in the NFL had anything to do with him being hired as a commentator?  

The fact that you think he is mediocre is a bit strange . . . . 

MgoHillbilly

September 10th, 2020 at 9:42 AM ^

The ncaa has already said they'll preserve their eligibility. All that's lost is the opportunity cost of possible professional employment and wages for one year of their lives.  We all (or at least some of us) have made significant sacrifices and lost actual current income due to covid-19 because we appreciate the need to avoid the potentially catastrophic situation of spreading the virus too quickly with inadequate means to treat.  Since we're getting caught up on supply issues like masks and sanitizer and virus testing, there should be obvious steps toward resuming sports and normalcy with adequate safety precautions.

He's sensationalizing and wrongly assuming that these kids won't be accomplishing anything this year. That somehow football defines their existence which is messed up.

house of pain

September 10th, 2020 at 9:57 AM ^

I truly don't think this is about COVID. Members of Pac 12 and Big 10 schools were wise in knowing that they have leverage in this situation. If you remember, Pac 12 football teams were threatening to sit out if their demands weren't met. This got many talking about the possibility of paying players( I actually think being paid was one of their demands but I could be wrong), and unionizing, which would be the end of amateur college football as we know it. Big 10 football players soon followed after understanding their leverage in the situation and wanted to protect themselves by issuing a wish list if a season were to begin.

In my opinion, the Pac12 and Big10 took the ball out of players hands and cancelled before they were able to mobilize any further. This explains why it was only those 2 conferences of the Power 5 to cancel the seson. The cancelling of the season is buying the conferences time to form a strategy if this arises again; which it will. If it weren't for Pac and BIG students showing a collective concern bout their health, I think we would have BIG and P12 football. 

MRunner73

September 10th, 2020 at 10:00 AM ^

That's why the idea of starting the Big 10 season sooner vs later is not going away. If the ACC, SEC and Big 12 can pull off playing their scheduled games the next two weeks, the Big 10 will be compelled to join the party. 

Obtaining the rapid testing will be a decider.

Hab

September 10th, 2020 at 10:38 AM ^

This is like my child continuing to whine after the third time I tell them no to something.  Better yet, it's like my mother in law telling me to just think of the children.  Be honest, this isnt about the children and their lost opportunities.  Its about you and me being told we cant have something we want.  And if there is anything that we cant stand, its being told no.

Sambojangles

September 10th, 2020 at 11:24 AM ^

I'm sure there are people out West that are bitching about the Pac-12 being cancelled as much as they are here, we just don't hear about them. At least, those that aren't running from fires right now (which would have likely caused many Pac-12 games to be postponed anyway).

Also, the B10 is the biggest and best conference (at least in terms of school prestige, number of alumni, etc.) so it gets more attention. Ohio and PA are two of the biggest states for football. Michigan has the biggest stadium and fanbase. Without denigrating anyone in the Pac-12 footprint, football is just more important around here, so more people are talking about it. 

1blueeye

September 10th, 2020 at 10:53 AM ^

My biggest issue is that what appears to be intelligent individuals in charge of this are too busy saying “we can’t, and we won’t” instead of figuring out a way to do something. The NBA, NFL, High School Football, MLB, SEC, ACC,Big 12 all found alternative ways and solutions. Be innovative. Be “the leaders and best” at this. The chicken little approach is frustrating to everyone involved because they don’t get a say in it. Just elitist suits saving everyone from themselves.

MGoStrength

September 10th, 2020 at 11:00 AM ^

While I get that, that's a bit biased on Brian's end.  His personal story that is swaying his opinion.  His story is not the norm.  There aren't many RS seniors who have never been a starter that go on to do so, win a NC, and get drafted.  He's the exception rather than the norm.  And, you don't risk a pandemic in hopes that may ring true for someone in the future.  There may be more sound, scientific safety reasons (or there may not be) that support having a season, but his past experience is not one of them.  

Oregon Wolverine

September 10th, 2020 at 11:14 AM ^

Right decision or wrong?

Here's a a quick off the cuff hypo:  I'm over a buddies house watching a game and drinking more than my share of micro-brewed beverages and brown liquor.  By the end of the game, I know I shouldn't drive when I weigh the risks/reward, but I know if I don't make it home, my wife will be pissed and I think she'll follow thru with her threat that the next time is "the last time she's putting up with my s#$%." 

So I drive home anyway, trying to be as careful as I can, but it's a really long drive and there are a couple of near misses including when I drive through my neighborhood I pass my elderly parents' house and nearly clip my dad who's taking the trash curbside.

I make it home, give my wife some flowers, sober up, and none is the wiser.

Guess it was a good choice to drive home, right?   I didn't hit my dad (or anyone else) and now I've got a lifetime of opportunities to save my marriage (and hopefully not drink and drive during the next urge (C19 spike)).

 

Decisions are based on the info at the the time. I cannot say B1G is clearly wrong to wait a month, see how it all plays out with the $EC, and then late start if it makes sense.

JonnyHintz

September 12th, 2020 at 9:01 AM ^

We don’t know all that we need to know. That’s pretty much common knowledge. It’s not a refuge. We just recently learned that you can catch it multiple times. We’re still trying to find the long term effects. We’re still trying to nail down the myocarditis rate found in athletes as a result of the virus. 
 

Pretty important to know these things before we go putting people at risk.

BolivianCivilian04

September 10th, 2020 at 11:19 AM ^

Thanks Brian... but you won't get nothing but vitriol and hate for that. Stick to your guns... and don't buy in to the BS anymore. Enough is enough, we need more alumni and influencial people to speak up on behalf of the kids and the University's. When you leave it up to holier than thou Presidents who can't even return calls from our Head Coach, that should tell you everything you need to know.

MJG

September 10th, 2020 at 11:52 AM ^

Football guy wants football to be played. Interesting. That’s all well and good, but Penn State just had 48 positive cases on the team, so nobody’s playing them for a while.