Brian Griese Says Big Ten Made a Mistake By Cancelling the Season Early
Brian Griese says that the kids are ones who are suffering because of the decision to cancel the season early, and says he never would have been drafted or even met his wife if he hadn't been allowed to play his senior season.
“It’s that game of sliding doors that is real for seniors that are playing in college right now that are not potentially going to have an opportunity to fulfill that dream, and that’s what bothers me the most.”
I agree with Brian 100%...Taking an entire year off would be absolutely devastating to these kids and their future careers and social life, not to mention the Michigan football program itself.
September 12th, 2020 at 12:45 AM ^
I feel really bad for you Timmmaay. The irrational need you have to display your 'genius' on a sports blog is scary. Once again you made a judgemental comment about 'guys like me' when you have no idea who I am and what I stand for.
You belittle, attack and assume the worst because I have made it known I am conservative in my views. I hope that someday you will have the ability to self reflect and open your mind before jumping to false judgements of people based on a few sentences on a sports blog.
Sorry for the delay in my response but I was working and do not have the ability or desire to spend all day on this board attacking others for their views.
September 10th, 2020 at 10:30 AM ^
“anyone thinking America isn’t a failed State isn’t looking hard enough.”
Lol.
“Most human beings have an almost infinite capacity for taking things for granted.” - Aldous Huxley
September 10th, 2020 at 12:16 PM ^
The index, inspired by research of Nobel-winning economists, collects 50 metrics of well-being — nutrition, safety, freedom, the environment, health, education and more — to measure quality of life. Norway comes out on top in the 2020 edition, followed by Denmark, Finland and New Zealand. South Sudan is at the bottom, with Chad, Central African Republic and Eritrea just behind.
The United States, despite its immense wealth, military power and cultural influence, ranks 28th — having slipped from 19th in 2011. The index now puts the United States behind significantly poorer countries, including Estonia, Czech Republic, Cyprus and Greece.
“We are no longer the country we like to think we are,” said Porter.
September 10th, 2020 at 12:46 PM ^
Okay, so now use your list and tell us the rankings of actual failed states (North Korea, Syria, South Sudan, Somalia, Venezuela ect.) and then tell us how many countries are in between them and the US.
My point is, we have it pretty damned good as a whole in the US. Of course we have some problems but so does every other society that’s ever existed. To say we’re a failed state is lunacy.
September 10th, 2020 at 1:44 PM ^
My point is, we have it pretty damned good as a whole in the US. Of course we have some problems but so does every other society that’s ever existed. To say we’re a failed state is lunacy.
You're asking me to compare the kid who has gotten Fs their entire life to the kid that got straight As and has been getting Cs and Ds the past few months.
Absolutely every one would be asking what's going wrong.
September 10th, 2020 at 11:05 AM ^
A massive amount of issues to fix. The point of a player losing out on this season and getting drafted next season to life and possibly generational changing money is valid.
I don't recall the NCAA allowing for all scholarship players to return for another year and allowing for more than 85 scholarships. Which means some of the players that are seniors will not be brought back even though they have another year of eligibility.
Recruiting didn't stop! Anyone see where all the schools stopped building a 2021 class? I haven't. So, many players are going to lose opportunities this fall and likely will be told thanks. Not all, not even the majority but a few in each program will have their career years to get drafted knowing it was now or never. For many it will be never.
September 10th, 2020 at 1:02 PM ^
"anyone thinking America isn't a failed state isn't looking hard enough"
Da faq is this shit! There is no way we are a failed state. We are not the best state by most means. But a failed state?! Jesus dude!
"COVID disproportionately affecting people of color"
Are you insinuating that COVID is racist? In that the virus seeks out people of color more that white people?
September 10th, 2020 at 1:41 PM ^
Are you insinuating that COVID is racist? In that the virus seeks out people of color more that white people?
No, but it probably is no coincidence that, in a society where a disproportionately high number of people of color have chronic medical conditions and are working in essential services, COVID is affecting that population at a higher rate.
Da faq is this shit! There is no way we are a failed state. We are not the best state by most means. But a failed state?! Jesus dude!
I would argue that being the country that backslid the most in quality of life amongst well-developed countries is absolutely failing.
September 10th, 2020 at 2:04 PM ^
Yes, it is a coincidence by your logic. You are confusing correlation (i.e. more POC are getting COVID) vs causation. If you are using science, this virus doesn't give a shit what race you are. Getting the virus falls largely on how well people decide they want follow the safety guidelines.
I know this is anecdotal. I'm married to a Hispanic immigrant (a POC if you will). My in-laws in the US comprise of people who are grossly overweight, diabetic, really really old (my grandma in-law is 98 years old, CV conditions (i.e. CV stents, etc). None of them caught COVID because they strictly followed the simple guidelines: wear a face-mask, practice social distancing as best as possible, and wash your hands frequently. I'll repeat, getting COVID has little (if anything) to do with your race.
With regards to your last sentence, you're moving the goalposts. You said that we are a failed state, not that we are becoming a failed state. We may very well be a failed state in the future, but there is no objective truth that we are a failed state now.
September 10th, 2020 at 2:13 PM ^
I know this is anecdotal. I'm married to a Hispanic immigrant (a POC if you will). My in-laws in the US comprise of people who are grossly overweight, diabetic, really really old (my grandma in-law is 98 years old, CV conditions (i.e. CV stents, etc). None of them caught COVID because they strictly followed the simple guidelines: wear a face-mask, practice social distancing as best as possible, and wash your hands frequently. I'll repeat, getting COVID has little (if anything) to do with your race.
I didn't demand correlation.
We know empirically that more POCs are contracting COVID. Whether it's coincidental based on profession, health conditions, or correlation, the numbers don't lie: People of color are getting infected more often.
I don't understand why you're disagreeing with me on this one.
September 10th, 2020 at 2:23 PM ^
Well, empirical data shows that 99.99% of people who got COVID are right-handed. So must be something with that right-handedness is causing them to get it, right? The numbers don't lie, right?
September 10th, 2020 at 2:27 PM ^
Well, empirical data shows that 99.99% of people who got COVID are right-handed.
If a large majority of right-handed people, over generations, were discriminated against both professionally and academically, and they were disproportionately in jobs and roles that ended up being classified as essential in the middle of a pandemic...
Then yes, absolutely. Right-handedness would have something to do with it.
I feel like you are being deliberately obtuse here.
September 10th, 2020 at 2:38 PM ^
Ha! Great answer, really.
And yet you know right-handed people were not discriminated against at all, ever. So explain to me why 99.99% of COVID cases are from right-handers.
September 10th, 2020 at 2:43 PM ^
interesting. can i see the source of the data please?
September 10th, 2020 at 3:17 PM ^
100% of COVID cases are in people that breathe oxygen, too. Amazing, right?
September 10th, 2020 at 5:30 PM ^
Incorrect. There are plenty of dead people (i.e. people who do not breath O2) who have COVID.
September 10th, 2020 at 6:23 PM ^
i read this in dwight from the office's voice.
September 10th, 2020 at 7:11 PM ^
Ha! That did make me laugh!
My wife sometimes calls me the white Dwight Schrute. Never mind that Dwight is the whitest guy ever.
September 10th, 2020 at 2:40 PM ^
"Coronavirus: Why some racial groups are more vulnerable"
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200420-coronavirus-why-some-racial…
September 10th, 2020 at 1:42 PM ^
"COVID disproportionately affecting people of color"
Are you insinuating that COVID is racist? In that the virus seeks out people of color more that white people?
You are either being intentionally obtuse or you’re not very bright. Which is it?
September 10th, 2020 at 3:48 PM ^
The United States isn't a failed state yet, but it will inevitably become one, as every state eventually fails. The question is how soon.
Recently electing an outright businessman - they're all businessmen - a sign of the times - but this guy is a businessman by trade, schooled to maximize profit - to run what is essentially the largest non-profit the world has ever seen, a non-profit that has been running pretty well overall, although for a short time, was not a strong indication that US citizens understand or have the ability to even maintain this ship, much less turn it around.
A bunch of other poor choices over the last 40 years or so, such as not continuing to build, strengthen, and fine-tune the necessary systems of healthcare, retirement, unemployment, job infrastructure, and education, and the overall prioritizing of individual wealth above the larger needs of its citizenry, gives the US a large amount of work to do, and changes to pursue, if it wants to flourish, or perhaps even survive as a proficient state for the next 200 years. It's probably going to have to abandon some of the capitalistic principles imbedded in its systems, and abandon them fairly soon, which personally I don't see happening based on recent events.
September 10th, 2020 at 9:31 PM ^
It is not so much capitalism that has to be abandoned, per se. What does need to be disposed of is the Milton Friedman's management archetype that held profit as the sole purpose of a corporation, and it must be reinforced through the compensation of managers in the form of stock. Multiple studies over the past 10 years have documented the catastrophic destruction of wealth that has taken place as a result of Friedman's influence. It is simply not sustainable.
September 10th, 2020 at 7:10 PM ^
Yup. My God, there are millions of Americans that are already (or will soon be) devastated by this virus, either directly (illness/death of family member) or indirectly (loss of work/business).
Talk about tone deaf.
September 10th, 2020 at 8:49 AM ^
It seems far too early to make that kind of pronouncement.
Besides, whether the decision was "right" or "wrong" when all is said and done (which includes if/when any lawsuits have been settled), I don't see it being reversed now. The best all this public lobbying would do is *maybe* drive a winter/spring season to fruition.
September 10th, 2020 at 8:53 AM ^
Panic, Panic, panic at the disco
September 10th, 2020 at 12:00 PM ^
It’s ‘Panic! At the Disco’
September 10th, 2020 at 8:59 AM ^
sorta OT but, to lighten the mood.
September 10th, 2020 at 9:01 AM ^
I only listen to medical advice from football players who received a full scholarship...
September 10th, 2020 at 9:01 AM ^
I still think the B1G and it's Universities cave and throw together a half-assed season.
September 10th, 2020 at 9:04 AM ^
If this decision is really about safety, why are teams still practicing?
September 10th, 2020 at 10:25 AM ^
You can’t tell the difference between an internal practice and traveling to play an external team?
September 10th, 2020 at 10:31 AM ^
No and you can't either. Traveling 100 miles doesn't magically make the virus appear and not traveling doesn't make it disappear, there are either positive cases or not.
September 10th, 2020 at 11:06 AM ^
Yep distance traveled is definitely the only important factor, awesome job.
September 10th, 2020 at 11:44 AM ^
So what are these other factors that are not related to distance but are only relevant in the context of travel and why didn't you just mention them in the first place?
September 10th, 2020 at 11:52 AM ^
the increased risk factors due to traveling are thought to be kinda understood when people have been asked to do the whole social distancing thing and to reduce needless travel, including commuting to work, for months.
September 10th, 2020 at 12:22 PM ^
Still a non-answer. Practicing football is already not social distancing, travel does not contribute to that.
That's three replies telling me I'm wrong but not a single one can even begin to explain why. Maybe there's a reason for that?
September 10th, 2020 at 12:24 PM ^
I think the reason is you are either willfully or obliviously failing to think.
September 10th, 2020 at 1:46 PM ^
FFS, man. How about the fact that "we" don't control how other programs and their players manage player safety during a pandemic. How about the fact that some areas are much harder hit than others? How many teams have had multiple players pulled in the past two weeks? You really needed someone to say this?
September 10th, 2020 at 2:13 PM ^
What does we have to do with anything? They could control their own players and/or there could be protocols for doing such, maybe based on the ones UM is using.
"How many teams have had multiple players pulled in the past two weeks?" Since none of those teams have played games yet, that sort of suggests that practicing isn't safe either no? Why is Michigan still practicing then? How about the rest of the unsafe big ten, why are those teams still being allowed to practice? It's amazing how you're acting like I'm mentally deficient while simultaneously proving my point. I'm suggesting that if safety was actually the concern, practice (and probably a variety of other things) would be cancelled too.
September 10th, 2020 at 2:20 PM ^
Dude, you are proving my point. Those other teams that keep having to pull players, clearly are not doing a very good job in controlling the virus spread amongst their teams. We would have to play some of these type of programs. That is my whole point.
The fact that you think I'm somehow proving your point is just insane. I mean... really batshit crazy. Bizzaro world level of craziness.
September 10th, 2020 at 2:39 PM ^
"If this decision is really about safety, why are teams still practicing?"
"I'm suggesting that if safety was actually the concern, practice (and probably a variety of other things) would be cancelled too."
"Why is Michigan still practicing then? How about the rest of the unsafe big ten, why are those teams still being allowed to practice?"
September 10th, 2020 at 12:22 PM ^
I mean, seriously? When you travel and when you play against other teams, you are exposed to more people who might not be as careful as you. If you only practice against your own team, you are not exposed to those additional people. Is this really that hard?
September 10th, 2020 at 12:37 PM ^
Travel is irrelevant in that scenario. Those other people could be careful too and football players can run into non-careful people without traveling, as is evidenced most recently at the University of Tennessee. Apparently it is that hard as you and others still can't explain it, which should be easy enough if it's as obvious as you say.
September 10th, 2020 at 1:15 PM ^
Good god. Enjoy Fox & Friends.
September 10th, 2020 at 1:27 PM ^
Of course, your inability to defend your position must mean I'm a brainwashed stooge. For the record, I've never watched Fox & Friends and think Trump is dumber than your dick cheese. So I'll take this as your concession.
September 10th, 2020 at 2:25 PM ^
You are an idiot.
September 10th, 2020 at 2:40 PM ^
I can have a discussion with someone I disagree with without resorting to name calling, that's worth more than pretending to be smart in my book.
September 10th, 2020 at 9:07 AM ^
Think of all the players who are not meeting their wives right now.
September 10th, 2020 at 9:09 AM ^
The season is and should be done. End of story. The BIG10 and PAC12 voted with the experts opinions in mind and trying to protect the kids at all costs. Im sure Michigan doesnt want to lose 100million in revenue but they are trying to do the right thing. SO LET THEM. So sick of this crap. Its the same group of people..."wearing a mask out in public violates my rights", "football players should choose if they want to risk getting a life threating illness or not"...just grow up people. Of course the kids want to play, they would play injured if a coach or players didnt get involved, but as adults we have to protect them and ourselves from this virus spreading further.