Blatant Pile-Drive Hits on Michigan QBs Going Uncalled This Season

Submitted by uofmfan_13 on
I'm going to go and try find screens of the three in question, or maybe someone on the board can assist later. In a nutshell: there have been some excessively violent, unnecessary late hits on our QBs this year -- AND ALL OF THEM HAVE GONE UN-PENALIZED. This is about basic player safety for our young men in blue as well as basic fairness and consistency on the field of play!!!! Why the hell is this so hard for refs to call? #1 vs Perdue, Wilton Speight gets a cracked vertebrae when he's clearly falling to the ground and a defender decides to come over the top and just pancake his neck/head. This one, QB still has ball but replay just looked unnecessary. Wilton was clearly getting sacked already. What was there to "finish off"? #2 vs MSU, John gets absolutely pile drived into the turf violently after THROWING AWAY THE BALL and in front of refs in monsoon third quarter. TV announcers, from 100 ft up, say it should've been 15 hard penalty!! Would be at crucial part of game, too. #3 vs Wisconsin, Brandon Peters gets like drive into field after throwing ball. AGAIN no flag. The hit itself was fine, fundamentally. It is PILE DRIVING our QB's head and shoulders into the turf that is clearly unnecessary! What in the hell are B10 and commish Robert Mugabe aka Jim Delany doing about player safety???

markusr2007

November 19th, 2017 at 1:09 PM ^

Winovich, Hurst, Solomon and Gary have been decimating fools all year, including some jarring hits on QBs.

Stop making excuses for the real cause of that play - the Michigan offensive line phoning it in when it mattered most.

jbrandimore

November 19th, 2017 at 1:10 PM ^

No, there was no penalty on the Peters hit that would have been appropriate. Approximately 100% of sacks involving a blind side hit look dirty in super slow motion.

BlueTimesTwo

November 19th, 2017 at 1:11 PM ^

I think my biggest problem with the hit is that the defender continued to drive his legs into the hit after the ball was away and after first contact, making sure his weight drove Peters’ head into the turf. The big hits aren’t the cause of the injuries as much as the second collision of the head to the turf.

BlueHills

November 19th, 2017 at 1:14 PM ^

My thinking is that it isn’t about just this one hit. It’s about the need for a rule change that will better protect quarterbacks, even if it means missing out on some sacks. Safety is simply more important than whether somehow a QB escapes or breaks free. We have rules against horse collar tackles, against leading with the head or crown of the helmet. Surely a rule can be devised regarding QB hits that will improve safety.

markusr2007

November 19th, 2017 at 1:39 PM ^

How about a rule that says the QB cannot be touched...ever.

All you can do is surround him with your arms up in the air to stop him from passing, or you can grind up against him like the Baby-Don't-Hurt-Me guys in the SNL skit:

Then we won't call it division 1 college football anymore, and we can finally let the girls play QB.

Will that make everyone happy?

Of course not.

 

 

buddha

November 19th, 2017 at 1:35 PM ^

This is exactly the type of hit that - if called against UM - we would all be shouting "B1G Conspiracy against UM." The hit itself seemed fine to me. It sucks our OL and RB decided to let the guy steam roll our QB. If Peters stands up and walks away, I don't think we are having this conversation. Instead, we are reacting to the injury- which obviously sucks - and claiming malicious intent. I hate to see Peters get hurt. But his injury does not mean penalty when the play seemed like a normal football play. We have had two QBs get injured this year mostly because of inept blocking by our OL and RBs. That's the part of this story that's entirely inexcusable to me.

Jevablue

November 19th, 2017 at 1:42 PM ^

fucking acceptable about drilling a guy that is fully extended and vuilnerable after having thrown the ball? And he did pile drive him. The ball was away, it had no bearing on the play but it did serve to end the game as we knew it that day. 

That hit and the clear continuation of if on the ground was nothing but dirty. And to think a majority of the football world thinks Harbaugh is a whiner. Well fuck, what other coach in America in any sport has had two QBs or other team leaders sent to hospitals (did they even fucking have one in West Laffeyette?) on dirty hits with no fucking flag?  You put this on top of the Capron/Sager/et al fucking at OSU last year and one should have to ask, who the hell wouldn't be fucking screaming?  Hell, one of the late hits by Weber in that game last year nearly knocked the defenseless Michigan player into the fucking ref that couldn't get his head out of his ass soon enough to bother calling it.

One need no clearer evidence of the anti-M bias than these plainly observable events and how they are (not) handled by the officials. Again, name another team that has had two QB's sent to the hospital on hits that were not even tackles? 

I'd rather be thought of as paranoid than brain dead. 

 

 

charblue.

November 19th, 2017 at 1:43 PM ^

watched Saints HOF ab Brees get hit near the head and shoulder area after releasing the ball, knocking him down for a 15-yard roughing call, which just led to a TD two plays later. Brees got knocked down, not tackled and bounced a couple times. Of course, the NFL is a qb league and there is a priority in protecting qbs.

Again, officials are more likely to protect in certain circumstances and not when an unblocked defender makes an appropriate hard hit.

Charmandar

November 19th, 2017 at 1:53 PM ^

Hits like this is why I will refuse to let my kid play football. I want my kid to not have a TBI when is 18.

brad

November 19th, 2017 at 2:04 PM ^

Neither of those hits were outside the rules. Our pass blocking sucks so bad that it’s just dangerous to play for M right now.

SDCran

November 19th, 2017 at 2:29 PM ^

3 PF calls on UM this year. Hurst has had 2 that were similar in timing and less in extra hits. And there was one a couple of weeks ago where they called for going below the knee that was a terrible call.

uofmfan_13

November 19th, 2017 at 2:39 PM ^

"And football bro" Nah. It is clear an unconscious Peters was driven into turf for additional yard by cheese eating dutchman. Our boys in blue deserve better. John, Brandon and Wilt have all been let down by officials and those in charge of maintaining basic player safety.

FLwolvfan22

November 19th, 2017 at 5:17 PM ^

Or, how ab out Mike Hart against Florida during the bowl game, nasty edge, where was it with this team? Where was it the last three seasons? O'Korn was trash talking his former coach and was told to quiet down, whatever, get fired up and angry, play with edge, don't quiet down. After that he started throwing hisi interceptions.

NYCBlue

November 19th, 2017 at 5:12 PM ^

The initial hit could be argued either way in real time.  In slow mo it is very clear that the Wiscy defender torques his shoulder in such a way as to put the full weight of both players onto Peters' head and shoulder.  I don't think he intended to actually injur but he definitely intended to make the ground cause extreme pain.  But - that's in slow mo.  At speed, you can't totally blame the ref for that.  All that being said, the grinding of an unconscious man's head into the turf for an extra yard in inexcusable.  For that, the refs can never be forgiven.  That is a huge miss that might have added to the injury.  In the NFL that would result in a 15 yard penalty and a hefty fine on the player.  These Big Ten refs continue to show how incompetent they are week after week.  And their unwillingness or inability to call penalties on dangerous plays has now given the entire conference the freedom to target QB's.  That's disgusting and unforgivable.

RJMAC

November 19th, 2017 at 6:24 PM ^

As the Wisconsin player was tackling him around the waist area he could tell that Peters was on his way down, but planted his shoulder and drove the defenseless player in the ground. A cowardly move.

matty blue

November 20th, 2017 at 10:22 AM ^

i don't think it should have been a penalty.

it was cheap, though, just like the hit on aaron rodgers (who i TRULY despise, fwiw), and (sorry) like the play hurst made earlier this year.  it's not necessary.  put your shoulder into the qb and knock him on his ass.  

there was some chatter on the board that we should have sent someone to take out hornibrook, or some such.  no way, man.  respect your opponent, even when (as in this case) they will try to thug it up on you (by the way - wisconsin is every bit the thug team that sparty is, we just don't see them as often).

win with character, win with cruelty, but you don't try to actually injure the other guy.  period.