Atlanta Falcons Interview Harbaugh
a new option appears
January 16th, 2024 at 10:34 PM ^
How much of it stays if Harbaugh leaves this month? How much of the staff as well?
January 16th, 2024 at 10:37 PM ^
Not sure, but the national championship remains in AA for the next year - which is nice.
January 16th, 2024 at 10:42 PM ^
Sure, that's very nice. But we just might want to have something nice next year, too.
January 16th, 2024 at 10:16 PM ^
loaded defense*
January 17th, 2024 at 8:04 AM ^
But we're missing two letters right now that will play a significant factor for next year. QB.
January 16th, 2024 at 10:11 PM ^
I have moved on from Harbaugh.
January 16th, 2024 at 10:12 PM ^
But what if he can’t quit us?!?
January 16th, 2024 at 10:49 PM ^
And we’re currently telling him, “We want to reserve the right to fire you if the NCAA punishes us.”
What message are we sending him?
It's never going to come to that. The NCAA bullshit is almost over with. The president wouldn’t say what he did (“Michigan won fair and square”) if they were going to drop the hammer.
This is Michigan being stupidly petty. And it may cost us our best coach in forever.
January 16th, 2024 at 11:34 PM ^
It has NOTHING to do with what Michigan is doing. Why is this so hard to grasp? He wants to explore his NFL options. He’s always clearly wanted to do that. M has offered him the moon and the stars. But they can’t somehow force him to sign.
January 16th, 2024 at 11:55 PM ^
This. A contract requires a meeting of the minds. There is no contract because Harbaugh doesn’t want to be here. And … stop blaming anyone on the Michigan side. Even if Harbaugh signed a massive contract a few months ago, he would still be doing this now. Any buyout in the Michigan contract would not prevent an NFL team from simply hiring him if they really wanted to.
I think this all goes back to Michigan not wanting Harbaugh to talk to NFL teams this year. I suspect Harbaugh slow played everything do he can have his cake and eat it too.
January 17th, 2024 at 7:22 AM ^
Because it very very clearly has something to do with what Michigan is doing. Yes, Harbaugh has options and other goals but he very clearly likes it here. He needs certain large assurances that he has earned and we’re dicking him around like it’s 2020 and we have all the leverage. Hubris
January 17th, 2024 at 10:06 AM ^
uh huh and did he need these assurances last year when he chatted a bunch with the Broncos? What about the year before when he interviewed with the Vikings?
What indication do you have that Jim prefers it here to the NFL? Ever since he's been hot enough here to get these interviews, he has taken them. And we already know for a fact he would've left in 2022, part of what put the Vikings off him was that he walked in assuming the interview was a formality and started talking about all the things he was DEFINITELY going to do there.
Jim wants out and he will be gone as soon as a team offers him a job.
January 17th, 2024 at 10:38 AM ^
Yes...we low balled him because we had him over a barrel in 2020. I don't know what the extension talks looked like in the 2022 off season, but we were not comping him like a top coach at all.
>What indication do you have that Jim prefers it here to the NFL?
The fact that he was a very successful NFL coach and gave that up to be here for basically twice as long as he's been anywhere else...dumb question.
>Jim wants out and he will be gone as soon as a team offers him a job.
Poor analysis. Jim wants a Bill B. type control of whichever team he goes to. This is a huge ask and it's a big part of why he never left. IF he gets that he will likely go but only because I'm pretty sure Michigan and stupid fans like yourself are too dumb to offer him whatever he wants.
January 17th, 2024 at 6:54 AM ^
That we, like every college in the USA, isn't going to pay a coach that can't coach for cause.
Even as bad as Tucker and Jimbo Fishers contracts were - they could be fired for cause.
January 17th, 2024 at 10:54 AM ^
The rumor is that Jim wants a firing for cause to be done by an administrative panel, not unilaterally by the AD. That’s consistent with executive contracts and isn’t unreasonable for a person of his stature.
January 17th, 2024 at 10:03 AM ^
if the NCAA gives him a showcause, we HAVE to fire him or we incur additional and accumulating penalties. Jim is asking for more than the moon and y'all want to give it to him because you haven't grasped his plan A is to be far, far away in the NFL next September
They could go out and give Jim the entire university endowment if they wanted, it won't change the fact that he'd use the money to buy an NFL team for himself to coach.
January 17th, 2024 at 10:24 AM ^
Do we? Pretty sure any NCAA decision isn’t set in stone. The SCOTUS has laid out an opinion that they are an invalid organization, and essentially set a roadmap for their demise. They are effectively asking colleges to take them to court, indicating that doing so will lead to success. And for good reason.
Michigan doesn’t want to go through the steps needed to protect their coach from arbitrary and capricious rules enforcement because doing so could make the university look bad to some people. The most dominant characteristic of UM is pathological aversion to any risk that might negatively affect The Brand. Protect The Brand über alles. That, you can bet, is Jim’s biggest turn off. And if the university cares more about The Brand than they do him, or the players, or winning, etc. then I get why he wants to leave. Frankly, I wouldn’t want to work for UM and I deeply love the place.
Now, one can reasonably ask “is NFL ownership any better?” and I think that’s fair. But at least you don’t have the arbitrary and capricious enforcement of deliberately nebulous rules. So I get it. Plus, he probably wants to win a Super Bowl so his brother can’t lord it over him. But if Michigan commits to “we’ll do everything we can to neutralize the NCAA menace” that might be enough to tip the scales for him.
January 17th, 2024 at 2:44 PM ^
"And if the university cares more about The Brand than they do him, or the players, or winning, etc. then I get why he wants to leave. "
If the university doesn't care more about the brand than they do Harbaugh, the players, or winning - they are failing at their job.
The entire athletic department could disappear tomorrow and it would have less affect on the University than some bad publicity that cost us a few percent of our research dollars.
January 16th, 2024 at 10:15 PM ^
Good for fuckin you.
January 16th, 2024 at 10:39 PM ^
SQ? The guy's been jerked around, hard and publicly, by the B1G and the NCAA. He's also still dealing with a great deal of uncertainty about future sanctions, penalties, etc.. He's obligated to explore his options with both M and various pro teams. He's got to protect himself.
This will play out in due time. Until it does? Try to ignore the noise.
January 16th, 2024 at 10:59 PM ^
This isn’t about the B1G and NCAA. He wants to go to the NFL. It’s been clear for the last few years that he is ready to move on
January 16th, 2024 at 11:31 PM ^
I'm certainly not sure what Coach really wants or what "it's about". I think only his agent, close confidants, and family can know that.
January 17th, 2024 at 7:26 AM ^
Why hasn’t this 🤡 been banned yet?
January 16th, 2024 at 10:12 PM ^
He's going full Ted Lasso and interviewing with Manchester United next.
January 16th, 2024 at 10:23 PM ^
If he grows the mustache, that will make him even more legendary.
January 16th, 2024 at 10:13 PM ^
he's not coming back imo
the NCAA harassed him all year. they drove him out.
thanks petetti. thanks Ryan day you jabroni
January 16th, 2024 at 10:15 PM ^
I just hope we don't drop the whole investigating OSU and Day business. If that really leads to nowhere then oh well, but I'd still like to know definitively who hired the mysterious PI firm.
January 16th, 2024 at 10:17 PM ^
So many options in college football where you can get the bag. Amazes me any college aged person would want to play for that clown. Ryan day makes Saban look like a hip dude.
January 16th, 2024 at 11:35 PM ^
You obviously don’t understand Harbaugh. The LAST thing he would do is let them drive him out.
January 16th, 2024 at 10:20 PM ^
Harbaugh is in the speed dating phase of this process.
January 16th, 2024 at 10:20 PM ^
Ha but the bear hug!
JUB spent all fall saying Harbaugh wasn’t going to pursue the NFL anymore. Hope we can put all this nonsense to bed - he wants to be there, its only a matter of if a team wants him.
January 16th, 2024 at 10:56 PM ^
I think it's time to stop drinking, bud.
January 16th, 2024 at 11:14 PM ^
It hasn't even been a year since he said those words.
January 16th, 2024 at 11:17 PM ^
I think the comment was in regards to you making the same post 17 times.
January 17th, 2024 at 4:25 AM ^
Hyperbole much?
January 17th, 2024 at 7:49 AM ^
You got me. I exaggerated. It's a thing. I didn't go back and count up exactly what it was. 7 times? I don't know man, the point is the same.
January 17th, 2024 at 12:02 AM ^
Dont understand why yall listen to JUB .
January 17th, 2024 at 8:31 AM ^
JUB should be banned as a source.
Just like every other know nothing journalist - he just throws sh*t at the walls and is continuously wrong.
Why do we keep giving this clown a pass?
January 16th, 2024 at 10:24 PM ^
It's not going to work on me. You can do this all day long. I'm still happy about winning a national championship.
January 17th, 2024 at 12:09 AM ^
Same.
I would normally have all these negative feelings and board posts about this stuff. But, National Champs. Do what you will, Jim, ya damn weirdo.
Who walks away from a potential dynasty-in-the making? NOOOOBOD.....oh wait, Jim is trying to.
January 16th, 2024 at 10:25 PM ^
Now can definitely see Arthur Blank rolling up the Brinks truck more than Spanos. Probably a play for leverage somewhere. Do we know if Jim went to LA? All these could be Zoom meetings otherwise.
January 16th, 2024 at 10:51 PM ^
That's what I was trying to figure out. Are they in person or Zoom? On Twitter, a few of the Charger journalists claim he was IN town and was still in town today to continue talks with the Chargers.
Idk if I believe that, but who knows. I actually think it's kind of hilarious that he spoke to ATL based on how sure they were about everything 😂
January 17th, 2024 at 12:23 AM ^
According to JUB, the Chargers use Teams. This militates favorably to him returning.
January 16th, 2024 at 10:33 PM ^
3 straight conf championships and wins over OSU. He led M to a Natty. He's a conquering hero.
Going out on top and going for that Super Bowl ring just seems natural versus a (potentially) anti-climatic return and the complex legalese of the M contract negotiations.