How about you get to January 9th and I'll get to January 9th. [Patrick Barron]

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Seth December 2nd, 2022 at 9:47 AM

202211_29-4M Venue-Big10Gameday-1080-FINALScheduling Note: I popped back from a gnarly flu to discover I'm the only able person standing to care for a house full of people with the flu. Defense UFR will have to wait until next week, sorry.

Event Note: Saturday night we're watching the game at Venue (where Lucky's used to be, and where the MGoPodcast now records). You can reserve a table or squeeze in—our guests get Happy Hour pricing. Here's the menu.

Blake Corum had surgery. We already guessed Michigan is probably going to be without Corum on Saturday, given it didn't work out against Ohio State, and the Great and Official Big Ten Championship Game doesn't hold a candle to the de facto one. Whether he's done for the year is a lot less clear, and currently the subject of an online battle between Michigan insiders and [checks notes] an the NFL guy.

I interpret this to mean Corum had a simple scope and was told six weeks, which to some people means "that's after the season's over" and to others means "if Michigan's playing for the national championship and it's a week early I wouldn't count him out." Both are reasonable.

Mazi Smith had a gun, the internet had a fit.

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[Patrick Barron]

Around 10am yesterday morning the Detroit Free Press broke the story that Smith was facing a felony weapon charge. The story didn't have any more than MiCOURT record, which at that moment showed the offense was a felony carrying concealed weapons charge on October 7, and the charge was filed on November 30. That was the full extent of information until Michigan put out a statement around 1PM saying they're aware but they're not suspending him.

Smith's arraignment was held (and streamed live) a little before 2PM, whence his attorney explained Smith was carrying his own gun and was in the process of attaining his license when he was pulled over. The judge gave him permission to leave the state to travel with his team and set his next hearing for December 8 over zoom. Via Josh Henschke($), Smith bought the gun himself, took all the training, and licensed it properly, but his application wasn't approved until a few days after the traffic stop.

Via his and my own source, Michigan expects the system to play out and for the charges to be dropped.

People wondered why it took the rest of October and all of November to issue the charge—EMU's Emoni Bates was issued two weapons charges (ultimately dropped) within a day of his arrest in September—but Washtenaw County Prosecuting Attorney Eli Savit told Angelique the "timeline for charging on this case was unremarkable."

"The incident involving Mr. Smith occurred on Oct. 7. He was not arrested at the scene, and we received a police report on Oct. 14. We approved the request for charges on Nov. 17, and the warrant was 'sworn out' before a magistrate this week. … If a defendant is in custody (arrested at the scene), we need to process cases faster, within 48 hours, and we have a separate queue set up to review in-custody cases. But when a defendant is not in custody, authorization of charges generally moves slower, and the timeline here was not remarkable."

So yeah, seems like there's not much to see here. That didn't stop certain deranged fans of recently disgraced athletics programs from going full CONSPIRACY!!!! on the office investigating the case of the 21-year-old who carried his gun before the wheels of the DMV turned, and the case of the team that cornered two opponents after a loss and beat the shit out of them:

The lesson here is if there isn't much information, wait for or go find more information. People hear "felony" and freak out, but anyone who isn't (like me) a naïve suburbanite who's never worked in the criminal justice system can tell you a "felony" gun charge in Michigan usually doesn't mean what you think it means. Bates had a family friend's gun with the serial number scratched off, and both of those charges were dropped. Seems like this will be as well.

[After THE JUMP: a little more roster news]

Good fit, let's not talk about their pass pro. Exit Cade McNamara to Iowa.

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Be their Rudock. [Bryan Fuller]

It was inevitable after McCarthy won the battle of the nonconference schedule so weak Harbaugh literally used it to stage an official quarterback battle. It's also nice to see the former Michigan captain and Big Ten Champion go to a program that doesn't play Michigan, unless they meet in the conference title game again. This is the setup for what might be the most good-willed transfer away in college football history. Gonna be two whole stadiums rooting for the Hawks next year.

Hopefully the Hawkeyes can shore up their pass protection issues because he's a perfect fit for the kind offense Iowa should be running, as well as the one they actually run. He also might help them with that protection—Cade's superpower, at least before this year, is pre-snap reads and knowing where to put the ball safely. Speeding up the decision-making should take some pressure off the Iowa line and give them a chance to find someone other than a tight end.

Bigger than football. Purdue quarterback Aidan O'Connell found out his brother died before the Indiana game last week. Michigan fans spent Giving Tuesday firing the money cannon:

The group announced they'll be donating all the funds received to a charity of the O'Connell family's choosing. Aidan has been with his family since the end of last week's game so his status for the BTCG is unclear.

Today in people not appreciating Mikey Sainristil enough. End of regular season means awards roundup!

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Someone in the media paid attention! [Barron]

Corum, Olu, Zinter, and the line as a whole were named 1st Team All-Big Ten. On defense & special teams, Mazi Smith, Mike Morris and Jake Moody were the honorees. The full list (coaches):

OFFENSE
Pos 1st Team 2nd Team 3rd Team
QB CJ Stroud, OSU Taulia Tagovailoa, MD JJ McCarthy, UM
RB Blake Corum, UM Chase Brown, ILL Miyan Williams, OSU
RB Mo Ibrahim, Minn Braelon Allen, UW Nicholas Singleton, PSU
WR Marvin Harrison, OSU Jayden Reed, MSU Ronnie Bell, UM
WR Charlie Jones, PU Emeka Egbuka, OSU Trey Palmer, Neb
TE Sam LaPorta, Iowa Payne Durham, PU Luke Schoonmaker, UM
Center Olu Oluwatimi, UM Alex Pihlstrom, ILL Juice Scruggs, PSU
Guard Trevor Keegan, UM Donovan Jackson, OSU Chuck Filiaga, Minn
Guard Zak Zinter, UM Matt Jones, OSU Axel Ruschmeyer, Minn
Tackle Peter Skoronski, NW Ryan Hayes, UM Alex Palczewski, ILL
Tackle Paris Johnson, OSU Olu Fashanu, PSU Dawand Jones, OSU
Fflex John Michael Schmitz, Minn Aidan O'Connell Brenton Strange, PSU
DEFENSE
Pos 1st Team 2nd Team 3rd Team
Line Jer'Zhan Newton, Ill Lukas Van Ness, Iowa Keith Randolph, Ill
Line Mike Morris, UM Garrett Nelson, Neb Adisa Isaac, PSU
Line Mazi Smith, UM Zach Harrison, OSU Aaron Lewis, RU
Line JT Tuimoloau, OSU PJ Mustipher, PSU Keeanu Benton, UW
LB Jack Campbell, Iowa Seth Benson, Iowa Michael Barrett, UM
LB Nick Herbig, UW Junior Colson, UM Mariano Sor-Marin, Minn
LB Tommy Eichenberg, OSU Cal Haladay, MSU Abdul Carter, PSU
DB Sydney Brown, Ill Cooper DeJean, Iowa Jartavius Martin, Ill
DB Devon Witherspoon, Ill DJ Turner, UM Ronnie Hickman, OSU
DB Riley Moss, Iowa Tyler Nubin, Minn Ji'Ayir Brown, PSU
DB Joey Porter Jr., PSU John Torchio, UW Kalen King, PSU
SPECIAL TEAMS
Pos 1st Team 2nd Team 3rd Team
Kicker Jake Moody, UM Chad Ryland, UMD Drew Stevens, Iowa
Punter Bryce Baringer, MSU Adam Korsak, RU Tory Taylor, Iowa
Returner Jaylin Lucas, IU AJ Henning, UM Aron Cruickshank, RU

Michigan's honorable mentions were Karsen Barnhart, Gemon Green, Kris Jenkins, Mike Sainristil, Jaylen Harrell (media), Makari Paige (media), and Rod Moore (media). The media also moved Keegan, Hayes, Turner, and Colson down a notch, and dropped Barrett and Schoon to HM.

The only really glaring thing in there Mike Sainristil not getting the love—how anyone could watch The Game and decide an Ohio State safety goes on the list over Michigan's nickel is beyond me, and it's not like Sainristil wasn't playing at that level all year. The other thing that rankles is not giving Brad Robbins his due among the greatest punting class since the Big Ten claimed the play as its own. Olu also won the Big Ten's sportsmanship award. Corum was top back. Harbaugh was the coach of the year.

A bunch of players were named finalists for various national awards:

  • Blake Corum is a finalist for the Doak, and probably the favorite.
  • Moody was named to defend his Groza. By the way he leads the nation in scoring (131 points) and is 7 shy of Desmond Howard's school record.
  • The reigning Joe Moore Award-winning OL is also a repeat finalist.
  • Jesse Minter is a finalist for the Broyles Award after Harbaugh learned he can't nominate his strength coach. Minter's name is also one of those being considered by Cincinnati, since the name "Minter" carries there the way "Carr" might in A-town.
  • Olu Oluwatimi is an Outland Finalist. The Rimington hasn't announce its circle yet but he's a lock for that too.
  • Ronnie Bell is one of 15 for the Comeback Player of the Year. Mo Ibrahim and Michael Penix Jr. are on there too so don't get your hopes up.

Mason Graham and Will Johnson made PFF's Freshman All-America team. Also Blake Corum was their #1 RB with a 95.9 grade. Donovan Edwards was 8th. Former Wolverine Zach Charbonnet (4th) and former commit Eric Gray (7th) also made the top ten. Also in not-as-subjective things that PFF knows: Michigan's defense is #1 in the nation at tackling.

So obvious the Big Ten couldn't get it wrong either. The powers that be finished their investigations into the Spartan Tunnel Assault and unsurprisingly found the athletes who cornered and criminally assaulted two opponents in a tunnel responsible, not the tunnel. Washtenaw County announced a felony assault charge against Khary Crump, who was the player swinging his helmet at Green's head, and misdemeanor assault charges on six of the other seven players MSU suspended after the incident (the remaining player was reinstated).

MSU was fined $100,000, the largest ever levied by the conference, as a repeat offender. They upped the suspension for Crump to eight games into next year, and called the rest of MSU's now-served four-game suspension decisions appropriate. MSU also had a staffer tagged for sportsmanship, but did not name the staffer, calling his role "sufficiently addressed by Michigan State University." Since all of the named players but Crump had already served those suspensions, MSU immediately reinstated the players. Since they didn't make a bowl game, the matter's moot.

Michigan was dinged for a fan being able to touch Mel Tucker's head, as Warde Manuel explained in the report:

"We accept the Big Ten Conference’s findings in full. The conference office’s reprimand of U-M was in response to a fan making physical contact with the MSU coach - which is wholly unacceptable. The offender was quickly identified and swiftly ejected from the Stadium by our Event Team. In addition, to reduce the possibility of future incidents, we proactively implemented changes ahead of our final home game by increasing security personnel in areas around the playing surface. Security and procedural reviews will remain a constant focal point of future event planning and reviews.

This was enough for national headline writers to include Michigan among the disciplined, though at least on ringleader of MSU's manifest grievance culture recognized the difference between reprimand and punishment:

By "How those players ran in there" and "the two player that ran in there" he means Green and McBurrows. Izzo, the most recognizable person at the school, then referenced the last time MSU was fined for its football players attacking Michigan players--Dantonio's march. So no, I don't expect the culture to change soon. Izzo should get a reprimand though.

The seven players facing charges met the court this week. Washtenaw County justice tends to go heavy on the charges and easy on the pleas, so I expect, unless the two who hired a crackpot lawyer from California follow through with attempts to blame the victims, that the players will end up with sentences far below what it looks like now.

MSU's going through a whole thing at the top, so opaque statements by the interim president aren't worth parsing to see whether they get that their athletic culture plays well at RCMB but is becoming an embarrassment to the school, and a hazard to the objects of their hate programming. One thing that won't happen, despite some support inside Michigan, is having the conference separate us from playing every year when they remake the schedule with USC/UCLA. Even when one or both teams are bad, that game is a tentpole stadium-filler.

Comments

dragonchild

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:45 AM ^

I love it, and no question he's a team player, but I feel the surprise element plays up the underdog story too much.  I, for one, wasn't surprised that he'd do well.  (I am a little surprised that he did that well.)

Sainristil isn't one of Harbaugh's "you're about to wash out but let's try to find you a home" projects.  Per Harbaugh himself, he was basically asked to replace Daxton Hill.  His trajectory is closer to that of Richard Sherman than Drake Harris.

Brian also played it up saying he was a "who-dat" recruit from "Nowhere, Massachusetts", but the truth in that is that we have no scouts up here.  MA has more people than AL so there's bound to be some athletes and FWIW Sainristil was high regarded by anyone who paid attention.

The takeaway is that Michigan has benefited wonderfully from the Don Brown pipeline, pulling bona fide athletes from New England essentially uncontested because the area is subject to brazen, unquestioned discrimination from scouting agencies and media companies because we actually have schools where students are expected to study.  But hey, I like that we get 4- and 5-star caliber athletes as if they were low 3-stars, and it seems Michigan has found a Moneyball route in looking where the scouts don't hang out.

Niels

December 2nd, 2022 at 11:04 AM ^

He comes from the next town over from us in Boston, something I didn’t really process until the OSU game likely in part due to the fact that that is very very random; Everett isn’t much of a football program in a state that isn’t much of a fb factory, Don Brown or not. 

Dunder

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:14 AM ^

Flat out, that victim blaming Izzo rant removed any sliver of remaining doubt about him being the facilitator of the rape culture demonstrated by his players over the years. He is right about one thing: "what start's bad, ends bad" - and that quote applies most to the players and culture he and Dantonio brought to that campus. 

MMBbones

December 2nd, 2022 at 11:48 AM ^

"Also what did Mel say to the fan doesn't that as Michigan fans isn't that the question we should be asking, instead of immediately removing the person from the premises?"

I found this funny, taking it as not merely sarcasm but parody and finding it well-played. RCMB asks what our players said, because their words obviously made helmet swinging justifiable. And only the fact that all of law-enforcement in Michigan is on UM's payroll could possibly be the reason for anyone not to see the person swinging the helmet is the victim in this fairy tale.

No, there is no way to justify any physical contact with Mel. We all know that.

OldSchoolWolverine

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:16 AM ^

Check out how many Illinois players there are on that list.  That is very impressive.  The Roundtable here is on to something, that their DC Walters must be really good. They have three first team starters on D and another two on third team.

Also noticed Deone Walker on the freshman all-american team.

MadGatter

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:21 AM ^

Hey Seth, it seems like that initial report saying Mazi Smith wasn't arrested at the scene was incorrect.  He was arrested at the scene (per the AAPD) but shortly released from the police station pending review from the prosecutor and the fact that he wasn't held overnight or for a long period of time is why there wasn't an immediate arraignment. Mlive edited their article with this correction (and this was my conclusion from that article).

Maybe there is some legal jargon in the prosecutor's statement that differentiates "arrested at the scene" from what took place, but I think its an important detail to point out for accuracy sake. 

Heres the Mlive article I am referencing:

Prosecutor explains why it took seven weeks to issue charges against Michigan DT Mazi Smith - mlive.com

Bando Calrissian

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:21 AM ^

Frankly, pretty tired of having to answer to everything that happens to Michigan after it's been filtered through the Sparty lens. These people are delusional, their narratives are absurd, and lack even the barest sense of self-awareness.

And yet, Michigan has to play them every year. Why?

JBLPSYCHED

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:31 AM ^

This is simply how it is with younger siblings, especially younger brothers. They are unable to accept that their place on the birth order totem pole is fixed and in some ways unfair. They agitate indefinitely in protest to no avail, but playing the victim gets them (negative) attention.

TLDR: Younger siblings, can't live with them, can't get rid of them.

dragonchild

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:51 AM ^

I for one would be perfectly fine with not hearing about RCMB ever again, from either MGoStaff or commenters.  We get it.  We really, really, really, really, REALLY FUCKING GET IT.  Now please ignore the tantrum-throwing toddler in the corner or it will only get worse.

In fact I'm going to neg any post that mentions that toxic echo chamber, starting with my own.

PopeLando

December 2nd, 2022 at 11:11 AM ^

I'm going to tread carefully on my response for obvious reasons,  but, basically, this is what you get when a group of people has zero interest in self-reflection and ALL of the interest in self-exoneration.

Basically, drawing false equivalencies and whataboutism are really effective tactics when you want to imply that Crime A justifies Crime B, even when those two crimes have zero connection. Or that Punishment A must be the same as Punishment B, even if they are for two different transgressions. 

The goal, of course, has nothing to do with fairness nor justice nor equality: if you refuse to ever admit that you did wrong, but get your "opponent" to do so, you've "won."

At the basic, basic level, this boils down to a simple principle: if you have no morals but your opponent does, you can weaponize morality.

dragonchild

December 2nd, 2022 at 11:54 AM ^

if you have no morals but your opponent does, you can weaponize morality.

In a vacuum.  The catch is that there is such a thing as society, which is anything but a vacuum, and that's where things like ethics, integrity, reputation, etc. accumulate value and pay dividends.  When you desecrate something of value, the people who value that thing will leave.  You only weaponize these things if you're too inherently dysfunctional to see value in them.  The trash that folks here keep signal-boosting do not contain a single self-respecting MSU grad, and it's an insult to families where UM and MSU alumni coexist -- of which there are plenty -- that MGoBlog keeps directing laser-focused attention to only the most deranged, toxic, society-destroying rabble of MSU fandom.

MH20

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:23 AM ^

What a shock that MSU water carrier Graham Couch is filling his diaper about Mazi Smith. Also, no surprise that Kyle Austin breathlessly typed out Izzo's unhinged ramblings. If there is a group of media members that are bigger shills than MSU "journalists," I'd like to see it.

Serious question: Has there ever been an MSU beat writer that didn't graduate from there? I don't believe for a second that any of them have a shred of journalistic integrity when it comes to covering their alma mater.

Also, Tom Izzo remains an unrelenting piece of human garbage.

EastCoast Esq.

December 2nd, 2022 at 11:17 AM ^

That's a non-denial denial.

He doesn't name the Cincy job. He says his heart at Ohio State "right now." And he has no plans to go anywhere else, which of course he doesn't because he hasn't been offered a job.

If one of our coaches issued that statement, I'd still be nervous.

 

Until he says "I'm not taking the head coaching job at Cincinnati" or Cincy rules him out as a candidate, Hartline is still on the table as far as I'm concerned.

stephenrjking

December 2nd, 2022 at 11:30 AM ^

It's not a totally soft answer, but it's not firm, either. 

On the one hand, he's an OSU guy; he may even be looking at a promotion within the program in the near future, or be content to wait and work in the program with a good salary.

On the other hand, OSU has to wait until Sunday to find out if it makes it in the playoff, and until then it's full go for things like early signing day. He may be waiting on that playoff situation before deciding what his next move is and how he makes it, and in the meantime doesn't want narratives to get out of control. Since it's just a week, no reason not to toss some water on the coals until the timeline is clearer. Not like Jesse Minter, who in any circumstance would be committed to stay at Michigan through December, since the playoff is on.

ST3

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:26 AM ^

HAWT TAKE: Mel Tucker should have been coach of the year. He managed to squeeze out 5 wins from a team so bereft of talent that they only managed to get two second team all-conference selections (not including the punter.)

BTW, I haven’t Zaprudered the “rubbing his head” film, but it looked like normal fan-near-the-tunnel behavior to me. Fans always lean over the railing to get a high-five from sports figures. I find it quite probable that paranoid, hate-filled Mel, mistook a fan’s attempt for human contact with a quasi-celebrity figure for a violent attempt at a head rubbing.

ST3

December 2nd, 2022 at 1:00 PM ^

OK, I zaprudered it and you are correct. There were about a half dozen people reaching down for high fives or whatever, including the head toucher. As Mel passes, the head toucher turns his wrist and goes from an open-palm gesture of friendship to an invading-another’s-personal space touching motion. Mel slaps his hand away as anyone would in that moment. (But to counter Izzo’s assertion, there was no head rubbing. That’s a really lame exaggeration of what happened to deflect criticism of MSU. It’s what-about-ism that you would expect from a message board poster, not a well paid representative of a university.)

BlueNorthStron…

December 2nd, 2022 at 12:58 PM ^

I haven’t watched the video in a while but I remember bulging vein head Tuck could clearly see the hand hanging down for several steps as he was rage staring straight ahead and walked right into it (it was inches above his eye-line the whole time just hanging there).  He instantaneously turned and punched/slapped the hand/arm as hard he could.  Almost like he was hoping for it so he could retaliate.

I know this also is hypocritical as a Michigan fan and sounds like victim blaming.  I don’t condone people touching coaches or players (or anyone) who doesn’t want to be touched.  It was right that the fan was kicked out.  Just interesting to note tuck’s behaviour around the whole thing is all.

MGoGrendel

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:27 AM ^

  • Moody was named to defend his Groza. By the way he leads the nation in scoring (131 points) and is 7 shy of Desmond Howard's school record.

He should be able to pass Desmond in the next two games, with the third game extending his lead.

njvictor

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:27 AM ^

I'm cheering for Cade, but I really don't see how his time at Iowa goes well. The offense he's working with is worse than Michigan in basically every facet. Their OL, RB, and WRs have been unremarkable and LaPorta will be gone. Not to mention playing in a Brian Ferentz offense. With a spotty OL, unremarkable running game, and not really any targets I think it's gonna hard for Cade to be his reliable, risk averse, game manager self

JBLPSYCHED

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:36 AM ^

While Iowa's offense has been historically bad for the past few years, it was reasonable during the Nate Stanley era before that. Brian Ferentz, and by extension his father, deserve all of the criticism for their failure to modernize the offense, but nothing good was going to happen with Spencer Petras as the starter (and Alex Padilla as the backup).

So if Brian remains the OC next year, which to outsiders is unfathomable, then Cade's impact at Iowa will be modest. If Brian steps aside and Kirk finds himself a reasonable OC (hoping for modernization might be a wish too far until Kirk retires) then Cade's impact has a chance to be more significant.

As a close observer of Hawkeye football here in Iowa City--as well as a lifelong Michigan fan--I'm rooting for Cade and by extension for the Hawks to get their act together on offense.

MH20

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:54 AM ^

I had the same thought about Stanley but you're right, they had some good RBs and very good O-lineman during his three seasons (2017-2019). They also had some pretty decent receivers.

As you said, Iowa has none of that now. Their RBs are meh as hell, their o-line is a dumpster, and their receiver room is 404 File Not Found.

smotheringD

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:58 AM ^

I was thinking about this as well.  The change in OL is going to be like going from riding on a new asphalt road in a new Cadillac to off road in a Jeep in a jungle somewhere.

But he will always have the run in 2021, winning The Game and the first CFP appearance for UM.

And he's earned a first rate education.

Thanks for everything Cade!

JBLPSYCHED

December 2nd, 2022 at 11:17 AM ^

The first thing that comes to mind is "guaranteed starter," which for a player with Cade's experience might have been the most important thing. Secondly there's NIL--although I have no clue how Iowa handles that and whether or not it realistically was part of the decision.

I'm sure there are other places where Cade would have been the guaranteed starter, so I can't speak to what led Cade to choose Iowa from among those other schools. It is interesting that he chose (wanted?) to stay in the B1G, albeit with a school that is not on Michigan's regular season schedule in the next two years.