How about you get to January 9th and I'll get to January 9th. [Patrick Barron]

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Seth December 2nd, 2022 at 9:47 AM

202211_29-4M Venue-Big10Gameday-1080-FINALScheduling Note: I popped back from a gnarly flu to discover I'm the only able person standing to care for a house full of people with the flu. Defense UFR will have to wait until next week, sorry.

Event Note: Saturday night we're watching the game at Venue (where Lucky's used to be, and where the MGoPodcast now records). You can reserve a table or squeeze in—our guests get Happy Hour pricing. Here's the menu.

Blake Corum had surgery. We already guessed Michigan is probably going to be without Corum on Saturday, given it didn't work out against Ohio State, and the Great and Official Big Ten Championship Game doesn't hold a candle to the de facto one. Whether he's done for the year is a lot less clear, and currently the subject of an online battle between Michigan insiders and [checks notes] an the NFL guy.

I interpret this to mean Corum had a simple scope and was told six weeks, which to some people means "that's after the season's over" and to others means "if Michigan's playing for the national championship and it's a week early I wouldn't count him out." Both are reasonable.

Mazi Smith had a gun, the internet had a fit.

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[Patrick Barron]

Around 10am yesterday morning the Detroit Free Press broke the story that Smith was facing a felony weapon charge. The story didn't have any more than MiCOURT record, which at that moment showed the offense was a felony carrying concealed weapons charge on October 7, and the charge was filed on November 30. That was the full extent of information until Michigan put out a statement around 1PM saying they're aware but they're not suspending him.

Smith's arraignment was held (and streamed live) a little before 2PM, whence his attorney explained Smith was carrying his own gun and was in the process of attaining his license when he was pulled over. The judge gave him permission to leave the state to travel with his team and set his next hearing for December 8 over zoom. Via Josh Henschke($), Smith bought the gun himself, took all the training, and licensed it properly, but his application wasn't approved until a few days after the traffic stop.

Via his and my own source, Michigan expects the system to play out and for the charges to be dropped.

People wondered why it took the rest of October and all of November to issue the charge—EMU's Emoni Bates was issued two weapons charges (ultimately dropped) within a day of his arrest in September—but Washtenaw County Prosecuting Attorney Eli Savit told Angelique the "timeline for charging on this case was unremarkable."

"The incident involving Mr. Smith occurred on Oct. 7. He was not arrested at the scene, and we received a police report on Oct. 14. We approved the request for charges on Nov. 17, and the warrant was 'sworn out' before a magistrate this week. … If a defendant is in custody (arrested at the scene), we need to process cases faster, within 48 hours, and we have a separate queue set up to review in-custody cases. But when a defendant is not in custody, authorization of charges generally moves slower, and the timeline here was not remarkable."

So yeah, seems like there's not much to see here. That didn't stop certain deranged fans of recently disgraced athletics programs from going full CONSPIRACY!!!! on the office investigating the case of the 21-year-old who carried his gun before the wheels of the DMV turned, and the case of the team that cornered two opponents after a loss and beat the shit out of them:

The lesson here is if there isn't much information, wait for or go find more information. People hear "felony" and freak out, but anyone who isn't (like me) a naïve suburbanite who's never worked in the criminal justice system can tell you a "felony" gun charge in Michigan usually doesn't mean what you think it means. Bates had a family friend's gun with the serial number scratched off, and both of those charges were dropped. Seems like this will be as well.

[After THE JUMP: a little more roster news]

Good fit, let's not talk about their pass pro. Exit Cade McNamara to Iowa.

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Be their Rudock. [Bryan Fuller]

It was inevitable after McCarthy won the battle of the nonconference schedule so weak Harbaugh literally used it to stage an official quarterback battle. It's also nice to see the former Michigan captain and Big Ten Champion go to a program that doesn't play Michigan, unless they meet in the conference title game again. This is the setup for what might be the most good-willed transfer away in college football history. Gonna be two whole stadiums rooting for the Hawks next year.

Hopefully the Hawkeyes can shore up their pass protection issues because he's a perfect fit for the kind offense Iowa should be running, as well as the one they actually run. He also might help them with that protection—Cade's superpower, at least before this year, is pre-snap reads and knowing where to put the ball safely. Speeding up the decision-making should take some pressure off the Iowa line and give them a chance to find someone other than a tight end.

Bigger than football. Purdue quarterback Aidan O'Connell found out his brother died before the Indiana game last week. Michigan fans spent Giving Tuesday firing the money cannon:

The group announced they'll be donating all the funds received to a charity of the O'Connell family's choosing. Aidan has been with his family since the end of last week's game so his status for the BTCG is unclear.

Today in people not appreciating Mikey Sainristil enough. End of regular season means awards roundup!

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Someone in the media paid attention! [Barron]

Corum, Olu, Zinter, and the line as a whole were named 1st Team All-Big Ten. On defense & special teams, Mazi Smith, Mike Morris and Jake Moody were the honorees. The full list (coaches):

OFFENSE
Pos 1st Team 2nd Team 3rd Team
QB CJ Stroud, OSU Taulia Tagovailoa, MD JJ McCarthy, UM
RB Blake Corum, UM Chase Brown, ILL Miyan Williams, OSU
RB Mo Ibrahim, Minn Braelon Allen, UW Nicholas Singleton, PSU
WR Marvin Harrison, OSU Jayden Reed, MSU Ronnie Bell, UM
WR Charlie Jones, PU Emeka Egbuka, OSU Trey Palmer, Neb
TE Sam LaPorta, Iowa Payne Durham, PU Luke Schoonmaker, UM
Center Olu Oluwatimi, UM Alex Pihlstrom, ILL Juice Scruggs, PSU
Guard Trevor Keegan, UM Donovan Jackson, OSU Chuck Filiaga, Minn
Guard Zak Zinter, UM Matt Jones, OSU Axel Ruschmeyer, Minn
Tackle Peter Skoronski, NW Ryan Hayes, UM Alex Palczewski, ILL
Tackle Paris Johnson, OSU Olu Fashanu, PSU Dawand Jones, OSU
Fflex John Michael Schmitz, Minn Aidan O'Connell Brenton Strange, PSU
DEFENSE
Pos 1st Team 2nd Team 3rd Team
Line Jer'Zhan Newton, Ill Lukas Van Ness, Iowa Keith Randolph, Ill
Line Mike Morris, UM Garrett Nelson, Neb Adisa Isaac, PSU
Line Mazi Smith, UM Zach Harrison, OSU Aaron Lewis, RU
Line JT Tuimoloau, OSU PJ Mustipher, PSU Keeanu Benton, UW
LB Jack Campbell, Iowa Seth Benson, Iowa Michael Barrett, UM
LB Nick Herbig, UW Junior Colson, UM Mariano Sor-Marin, Minn
LB Tommy Eichenberg, OSU Cal Haladay, MSU Abdul Carter, PSU
DB Sydney Brown, Ill Cooper DeJean, Iowa Jartavius Martin, Ill
DB Devon Witherspoon, Ill DJ Turner, UM Ronnie Hickman, OSU
DB Riley Moss, Iowa Tyler Nubin, Minn Ji'Ayir Brown, PSU
DB Joey Porter Jr., PSU John Torchio, UW Kalen King, PSU
SPECIAL TEAMS
Pos 1st Team 2nd Team 3rd Team
Kicker Jake Moody, UM Chad Ryland, UMD Drew Stevens, Iowa
Punter Bryce Baringer, MSU Adam Korsak, RU Tory Taylor, Iowa
Returner Jaylin Lucas, IU AJ Henning, UM Aron Cruickshank, RU

Michigan's honorable mentions were Karsen Barnhart, Gemon Green, Kris Jenkins, Mike Sainristil, Jaylen Harrell (media), Makari Paige (media), and Rod Moore (media). The media also moved Keegan, Hayes, Turner, and Colson down a notch, and dropped Barrett and Schoon to HM.

The only really glaring thing in there Mike Sainristil not getting the love—how anyone could watch The Game and decide an Ohio State safety goes on the list over Michigan's nickel is beyond me, and it's not like Sainristil wasn't playing at that level all year. The other thing that rankles is not giving Brad Robbins his due among the greatest punting class since the Big Ten claimed the play as its own. Olu also won the Big Ten's sportsmanship award. Corum was top back. Harbaugh was the coach of the year.

A bunch of players were named finalists for various national awards:

  • Blake Corum is a finalist for the Doak, and probably the favorite.
  • Moody was named to defend his Groza. By the way he leads the nation in scoring (131 points) and is 7 shy of Desmond Howard's school record.
  • The reigning Joe Moore Award-winning OL is also a repeat finalist.
  • Jesse Minter is a finalist for the Broyles Award after Harbaugh learned he can't nominate his strength coach. Minter's name is also one of those being considered by Cincinnati, since the name "Minter" carries there the way "Carr" might in A-town.
  • Olu Oluwatimi is an Outland Finalist. The Rimington hasn't announce its circle yet but he's a lock for that too.
  • Ronnie Bell is one of 15 for the Comeback Player of the Year. Mo Ibrahim and Michael Penix Jr. are on there too so don't get your hopes up.

Mason Graham and Will Johnson made PFF's Freshman All-America team. Also Blake Corum was their #1 RB with a 95.9 grade. Donovan Edwards was 8th. Former Wolverine Zach Charbonnet (4th) and former commit Eric Gray (7th) also made the top ten. Also in not-as-subjective things that PFF knows: Michigan's defense is #1 in the nation at tackling.

So obvious the Big Ten couldn't get it wrong either. The powers that be finished their investigations into the Spartan Tunnel Assault and unsurprisingly found the athletes who cornered and criminally assaulted two opponents in a tunnel responsible, not the tunnel. Washtenaw County announced a felony assault charge against Khary Crump, who was the player swinging his helmet at Green's head, and misdemeanor assault charges on six of the other seven players MSU suspended after the incident (the remaining player was reinstated).

MSU was fined $100,000, the largest ever levied by the conference, as a repeat offender. They upped the suspension for Crump to eight games into next year, and called the rest of MSU's now-served four-game suspension decisions appropriate. MSU also had a staffer tagged for sportsmanship, but did not name the staffer, calling his role "sufficiently addressed by Michigan State University." Since all of the named players but Crump had already served those suspensions, MSU immediately reinstated the players. Since they didn't make a bowl game, the matter's moot.

Michigan was dinged for a fan being able to touch Mel Tucker's head, as Warde Manuel explained in the report:

"We accept the Big Ten Conference’s findings in full. The conference office’s reprimand of U-M was in response to a fan making physical contact with the MSU coach - which is wholly unacceptable. The offender was quickly identified and swiftly ejected from the Stadium by our Event Team. In addition, to reduce the possibility of future incidents, we proactively implemented changes ahead of our final home game by increasing security personnel in areas around the playing surface. Security and procedural reviews will remain a constant focal point of future event planning and reviews.

This was enough for national headline writers to include Michigan among the disciplined, though at least on ringleader of MSU's manifest grievance culture recognized the difference between reprimand and punishment:

By "How those players ran in there" and "the two player that ran in there" he means Green and McBurrows. Izzo, the most recognizable person at the school, then referenced the last time MSU was fined for its football players attacking Michigan players--Dantonio's march. So no, I don't expect the culture to change soon. Izzo should get a reprimand though.

The seven players facing charges met the court this week. Washtenaw County justice tends to go heavy on the charges and easy on the pleas, so I expect, unless the two who hired a crackpot lawyer from California follow through with attempts to blame the victims, that the players will end up with sentences far below what it looks like now.

MSU's going through a whole thing at the top, so opaque statements by the interim president aren't worth parsing to see whether they get that their athletic culture plays well at RCMB but is becoming an embarrassment to the school, and a hazard to the objects of their hate programming. One thing that won't happen, despite some support inside Michigan, is having the conference separate us from playing every year when they remake the schedule with USC/UCLA. Even when one or both teams are bad, that game is a tentpole stadium-filler.

Comments

stephenrjking

December 2nd, 2022 at 9:56 AM ^

I wish the Corum hope came from more sources other than Balas, whose record isn't the greatest. The NFL guy isn't exactly solid, either, though. If Michigan or Corum doesn't explicitly state that Corum is done, I would probably interpret that as a "you're saying there's a chance" type situation that Seth describes.

And getting Corum back for a potential national championship game, probably against Georgia, would be *huge*. 

I'll hang on to that as much as I can.

Cade is not a statue, but he's not a plus runner, which is a major reason Iowa's no-option offense is an obvious fit. He has good pocket presence and he's going to need it; should be an immediate upgrade for them, but whether they can produce a real offense out of that mess remains to be seen. 

Ali G Bomaye

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:53 AM ^

Well, Iowa is going to lose its top two receivers (TE Sam LaPorta and WR Nico Ragiani) to graduation. And two underclassman WRs (Arland Bruce IV and Keagan Johnson) just announced this week that they were going to transfer. So Iowa's returning receiving corps looks something like this:

  • TE Luke Lachey - 25 catches
  • WR Brady Brecht - 9 catches
  • WR Diante Vines - 8 catches
  • WR Alec Wick - 2 catches

That's literally every TE and WR on Iowa's roster this year with a catch that will be returning last year. If Brian Ferentz comes back, this could be the worst situation in P5 for a QB to step into. I love Cade, but I can't see what he saw in Iowa, unless they get a new OC and hit the portal hard for some receivers.

FreddieMercuryHayes

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:22 AM ^

Yeah, the surgery could mean anything, especially the fact that it was already released that there was 'no structural damage'.  So a surgery could be like a fluid drain, or diagnostic, or something.  But they usually have a pretty good idea of what's going on in there with imaging and the experience of the surgeons UM has.  JT Barrett had some cartilage trimmed in 2017 and played a week later.  I've had four knee surgeries due to sports injuries and the fact that Corum tired to come in and was cleared is encouraging.  Not one of the immediately season ending injuries.  So I have no idea what the surgery is, but I'm guessing the recovery is just due to the fact that tissue still needs to heal after to stick stuff in it.  So if UM gets to an NC and healing goes well, it would seem certianly possible.  

NCBlue22

December 2nd, 2022 at 11:01 AM ^

Yeah my immediate thought was a possible partially torn meniscus cartilage, although the mechanism for that is usually twisting or turning and Blake's injury was more or a direct shot to the knee.  Back in high school I partially torn my meniscus playing soccer - and even played a few weeks later as running straight wasn't a problem (kicking and cutting were though).  I finally got it checked it - went in for a scope and fix of the partial tear - and was back running in about 6 weeks with a full recovery in 8-10.  This could be more of a pain and swelling, fluid, or bone fragment repair - which is probably similar timing.  All speculation.  

FreddieMercuryHayes

December 2nd, 2022 at 1:01 PM ^

Maybe it's wording, but I would think the whole 'no structural damage' would exlude a meniscus.  And yes, I've torn one as well and it didn't seem like the hit Corum took would induce one of those types of injuries.  The fact that he had a huge brace and tried to go, seems like bone bruise, but I honestly don't know any surgical intervention for that unless it's so back the tissue starts to necrose or something.

lhglrkwg

December 2nd, 2022 at 12:58 PM ^

I've said it elsewhere, but Rapoport almost certainly will know only what Blake's agent will tell him. That tweet might as well have been a press release from Blake's agent. That's how the NFL insider gig works and Ian doesn't have any Michigan connections - just whatever he hears from the NFL side, so if there's rumbling from Michigan that Blake may still play in the CFP, that's probably more accurate

MGoGrendel

December 2nd, 2022 at 9:59 AM ^

A note on "surgery" -- FWIW

My son broke his forearm while snow boarding.  Last run of the week and 20 yards from the warming house while going slow.  April 1st no less.

Anyway, the staff set his arm in the makeshift hospital at the base.  They put him in a loose cast and sent us on our way.  Two weeks later, we are back home for a doctor visit (after the swelling had go down), the doctor checks out my son and says: "he's going to need surgery".

I freaked out not wanting my son's arm cut open.  But, the doctor assured me that there would be no sharp knives - just some uncomfortable tugging to realign the bones (which eventually healed to a point where they looked like they were never broken).

My point is "surgery" can mean many things.  It could be a little scoping where Blake gets game ready 'soon'.  Let's hope so!

Sam1863

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:28 AM ^

Same thing happened to me when I badly broke a finger. The doctor said he'd rather not cut me open, and I said that made two of us. So my "surgery" consisted of twilight meds (which are really swell), a general anesthetic, a lot of pulling, and two pins. Many years later it's slightly bent but fully functional.

Robbie Moore

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:03 AM ^

Does Izzo even hear himself talk? Is he so oblivious he can't see that he is embarrassing himself? The man has had a great run and is untouchable in East Lansing. If he called out the behavior of the football players without all the whatabout-ism, or if he said nothing at all, nobody could challenge him. But no, he goes all in. And why? So the MSU community will love him more? 

Also, had a brain fart and listened to Valenti and his little brother Rico yesterday for 10 minutes. My God, the whining. "Oh...poor us. Oh...it's so unfair. Michigan is so mean." Such insecurity. So self inflicted. Grow the fuck up.

 

MH20

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:41 AM ^

And why? So the MSU community will love him more?

Yes. Izzo is an egomaniacal narcissist who can't get enough of people telling him how amazing he is for winning a title 22(!) years ago. The rest of the world exists only to do his bidding and bow down to his "greatness."

He's a piece of shit and should have to answer to his constant shielding and harboring of rapists and criminals.

LBSS

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:52 AM ^

Pure speculation here: I think he can, but he's fully committed to MSU as his main audience, so it feels worth it to him. It's like a role player lashing out and taking a technical foul in basketball to defend a star teammate who they feel has been wronged. He probably knows he'll get reprimanded and he'll hear all the opprobrium. And he'll shrug and know that his constituents - the MSU fans, administration, other bigwigs in the AD - are grateful. 

GoBlue96

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:06 AM ^

Dumb question:

The NFL twitter breaking news reporters obviously get all their information from agents.  Are players allowed to have agents in the NIL era?  If no, why is the NFL breaking this news?

The NFL agent might want Blake to be done with college.  Blake might not feel that way.

stephenrjking

December 2nd, 2022 at 12:56 PM ^

It's not strange in general. Agents are frequently the source of news breaks like this. It is in their interest to achieve various ends. Sometimes it's to get their player a better contract, or make the current team think that there's interest elsewhere, or pressure for a trade when no one has actually talked about it. 

Certainly we got a lot of experience with the NFL/CFB dichotomy through various Harbaugh coach search events. Both the original Harbaugh search and then the flirtation with the Vikings featured a lot of information in the field, and the source of the information made a big difference. NFL people were skeptical that Harbaugh would go to college; Michigan people saw tea leaves and heard stuff from completely different places that suggested that he would. And when the Vikings opening became a real possibility, the information varied depending upon whom you asked. 

Agents and "camps" provide info like this all the time. Remember the "Emoni getting interest from Michigan" rumors? There is zero chance Michigan actually produced those. They were almost certainly leaks from the Emoni camp, looking to get his market going when he was trying to find a transfer landing spot. 

The scenario here is clearly an NFL-side source, since it's an NFL guy producing it. Whether that source has credibility or not is open to question; it could be Blake's camp sounding out potential agents or teams, and one of them just passing info on to Rap. Maybe his camp is saying "he's done for the year..." or maybe not. Maybe that's the case and there's some "game of telephone" stuff like "the surgery has a six week recovery" and an NFL guy who hears that mentally translates that to "he won't play again" and leaks that to the media. Or it could be an agent who wants to sign Blake and he's trying to juice the game a bit. Who knows? It's all speculation. 

But it is definitely true that agents source stuff like this. They do it all the time. 

sdogg1m

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:50 AM ^

Why is an NFL insider reporting on this and not someone closer to the program or Blake?

We all know Harbaugh doesnt like to relay information on injuries but the information was leaked. 

If mgoblog was the first to report on this matter then weight would be given to the story without speculation. However, this site did not have that info and so we are left to guess why an NFL insider did.

MightyMatt13

December 2nd, 2022 at 12:26 PM ^

Not sure I understand that. Given the devaluing of RBs at the NFL level, and BC having some decent mileage for his class, would it not be valuable for him to potentially be able to play 1 healthy game to give NFL teams more comfort about his knees?

As it stands, you're drafting damaged goods. If he were healthy against Georgia say, he'd be previously-damaged goods.

dragonchild

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:07 AM ^

I popped back from a gnarly flu to discover I'm the only able person standing to care for a house full of people with the flu. Defense UFR will have to wait until next week, sorry.

C'mon, man.  It's not like you're playing Michigan in the snow.

/s

DonAZ

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:09 AM ^

Mike Sainristil may be my favorite story of this season.  Here's a young man who by all accounts is a team player, willing to switch from offense to defense to help the team, and then knocks it out of the park.  How can you not love that? 

Also: get well soon, Blake and Seth!

stephenrjking

December 2nd, 2022 at 10:31 AM ^

A remarkable, shockingly good position switch that elevated Sainristil from "nice piece as a college slot" to "plus defensive player making key plays to win big games and get NFL attention."

Depending upon whether or not you count Haskins as a position switch from LB (probably not, as early "could-be-either" guys are more common) I concur with others that it is probably the best position switch in Michigan history.

There are some pretty bad hot takes about the position switch from when it first emerged. A sampling:

It would be a huge surprise for Sainristil to move to CB and be anything other than a backup.

And:

If there’s any grounds to this, I think it means that he’s running with the CB crew a bit as well as slot, and it may be the precursor to a transfer.

Another:

We are probably losing a receiver or two to the portal, just based on math. Sainristil doesn’t seem to make much sense as a DB, but if the staff thinks their best receiver lineup requires a guy like Bell to move inside, giving more snaps to Johnson and Anthony, maybe Mike is the odd guy out.

Pretty nuts, huh? Spoiler alert: All of those takes are *mine*. 

Delighted to be wrong. 

 

Carpetbagger

December 2nd, 2022 at 12:15 PM ^

First off, I applaud you for calling yourself out. Acknowledging one's own errors appears to be the single worst thing a person can do nowadays.

Second, not only does Sainristil impress me as a player, he appears to be a hell of a leader too. Leadership is an undervalued trait in a team sport. And lastly he acts like such a good 'kid' I've dumped him in the theoretical "would let date my daughter" bucket. Our program is full of those guys.

LeCheezus

December 2nd, 2022 at 11:12 AM ^

I've watched this so many times and it looks like Mikey takes an extra step or two to really get in position, where diving earlier to try and make a play on the ball wouldn't have gotten him to the ball Just an amazing amount of space made up in a flash.