decision time [Bryan Fuller]

Coaching Search Time: Initial Candidates Comment Count

Brian March 16th, 2024 at 11:36 AM

Not Happening

Creighton's Greg McDermott leads this list. He signed a contract extension a week ago and said he wants to retire at Creighton. Nate Oats also just signed a contract with Alabama that will give him a top five salary in college basketball. Retired guys John Beilein and Jay Wright are also in this group, as I bet one dollar neither wants to come back and deal with the portal and NIL and whatnot. Michigan is deeply unlikely to poke around the NBA, in any capacity, after Howard went so wrong.

Tony Bennett… cumong man. Get real.

Probably Not Happening

Two up-and-coming P5 coaches have difficult buyouts. South Carolina's Lamont Paris looks like a natural fit: he was born in Ohio and spent eight years as a Wisconsin assistant. Unfortunately he just signed a six-year extension with a $12.5 million buyout. Iowa State's TJ Otzelberger has a buyout described as "hefty" that Jeff Goodman thinks will dissuade OSU from pursuing him so I'd imagine Michigan is in the same boat. The number out there is 17 million, but I can't find anything that confirms that.

Shaka Smart has done a great job at Marquette after some up-and-down years at Texas, but I think Brendan Quinn is probably right that Smart isn't going to leave a good Big East program that's probably a two seed to run it back as the second banana at a football power.

The opposite applies for Porter Moser. His three years at Oklahoma have been underwhelming.

SDSU's Brian Dutcher has had a ton of success with the Aztecs but he's 64 and may not want to spend a few years rebuilding the crater that is Michigan's roster when he could be having fun with a good program. Also the connection to Steve Fisher may still be a problem 25 years later.

Fred Hoiberg has Nebraska in the tourney after a long build but bringing the king of the portal to Michigan seems like a bad fit for both parties. Chris Collins: no.

Realistic Candidates

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NIKO MEDVED, Colorado State. Medved took over a Larry Eustachy crater and immediately improved CSU from 224th in Eustachy's last year to 180th, 99th, 76th, and then 46th in 2022, the year when Michigan faced them in the first round of the tourney. CSU had an off year in 2023 but is back in the tourney this year with room to spare. Torvik has them as a 7 seed. An 10-8 conference record doesn't seem great but this year's Mountain West is more or less a power conference—it's the #7 conference in Kenpom, but their average efficiency rating is closer to the Big East (#2) than the A10 (#8).

Medved is an offensive guy first and foremost. His teams have been top 50 in two-point percentage every year he's been at CSU and they tend to have very high assist rates. That combination usually means a guy is scheming up excellent looks for his team. TO avoidance has been good, but not Beilein good. Speaking of:

Colorado State’s motion offense has become a must-watch for basketball junkies. The ball moves; there’s constant cutting and reads. It has elements of Johnny Orr’s spread, John Beilein’s 2-guard attack and Lennie Acuff’s version of the Princeton.

“Maybe one day it’ll be the Medved system,” Medved says.

He’s proud that this system is uniquely his.

That's from an Athletic article in which Medved offered a two-week deep dive on his program; it mentions that Isaiah Stevens, the point guard Michigan played in that game, stuck it out at CSU when he could have hit the portal:

“The main thing that has always kept me here was it’s hard to find people that genuinely care about you,” Stevens says. “My dad always told me there’s certain things money can’t buy, and that’s loyalty and relationships and faith and love. And I just feel like a lot of that has been built up here over my time.”

Medved, like everyone else in college basketball, has hit the portal for players but he's gone an unusual route: he's got two DII transfers and a DIII transfer in his rotation. The two DII transfers are starters with 121 and 118 ORTGs on ~21% usage in what is more or less a high major conference. Guy has an eye for talent.

[After THE JUMP: more mid-major guys]

DARIAN DEVRIES, Drake. DeVries took over for Medved after Medved's single season at Drake and after a couple of okay-to-good years he's taken off. Drake has been at or near the top of the Missouri Valley for four straight years, grabbing bids in 2021 and 2023, the former an at-large. This year Drake is 28-6 and headed for another 11-seed.

Devries's teams are Beileinesque in their turnover avoidance (top 40 the last four years) and have been fierce defensive rebounders while also being awful offensive rebounders. This is a positive since Drake has been around 300th in effective height over this period: the offensive rebounding is about a talent deficiency; the defensive rebounding is good coaching.

Before taking over Drake, Devries was a Creighton assistant for 17 years, so if you want McDermott Devries is McDermott At Home.

FWIW DeVries's best player is his son, who has a year left. You'd imagine he'd come along. Given the state of the Michigan roster anyone who comes with a top portal option attached looks a bit more attractive.

JOSH SCHERTZ, Indiana State. The other MVC dude. ISU is a remarkable 28-6 this year and has cracked the top 50 on Kenpom for the first time ever. Those rankings stretch back to 1997. ISU leads the nation in eFG and was fourth last year on the strength of absurdly good two-point shooting—59% and 62%. His teams take buckets of threes and have a sky-high assist rate. As mentioned just above, this is a signal that coaching is moving the needle.

Schertz has only been at ISU for three years; prior to that he was a D-II coach at Lincoln Memorial in Tennessee, where he won his conference nine of 11 years to end his tenure, made three D-II Final Fours, and had a 32-1 team when the tournament was cancelled in 2020. It's tough to tell if a D-II team has a natural advantage over the teams it tends to play; ISU has been a middling MVC program for decades, lending credence to the idea that this guy can coach.

DUSTY MAY, Florida Atlantic. Reached the Final Four a year ago and then got to run it back with more or less the same roster this year. Hasn't been quite as good this year, but "has Florida Atlantic at #35 in Kenpom instead of #17" is not a dealbreaker. Top 25 offenses the last two years.

May's issue relative to the guys listed above him is the length of his track record. He's been FAU's coach for six years; until last year FAU was a thoroughly mediocre CUSA team. The guys above him have had longer stretches of top-end play. May could have just got lucky with his current roster.

AMIR ABDUR-RAHIM, USF. Yes, Shareef's brother. Abdur-Rahim built Kennesaw State from a 1-28 team just transitioning from D-II in to a 26-9 team that made the tourney. USF hired him; the Bulls are 23-6 and won the AAC at 16-2. His tenure as a head coach is too short to draw any conclusions from Kenpom stats—I'm not holding his first three years at KSU against him but that just leaves this year and last.

MARK POPE, BYU. Has BYU at 10-8 in the Big 12 and in line for a five seed, according to Bart Torvik's algorithim. Had top-20 Kenpom teams in his first two years at BYU before falling off to .500-ish in the WCC. Before that had a successful four-year tenure at Utah Valley. Is a Mormon so might be a tough pull. He had some complaints about NIL at BYU a year ago, so maybe Michigan can convince him they're better equipped to get guys. (You know… if they are.)

Pope has the best teams, per Kenpom, of anyone on this list. His teams are not super consistent in any department but are consistently good on both sides of the ball. With limited exceptions all of his teams have been balanced.

PAT KELSEY, Charleston. Three bids in nine years at Winthrop, whereupon he moved to Charleston and rebuilt a program that was 9-10 the year prior to his arrival into a 31-4 team in year two, then 27-7 this year. Kelsey's teams play fast—top 60 in tempo going back almost a decade—and they crash the offensive boards; defensively they are all over the place but consistently clean up their own boards.

MATT LANGEL, Colgate. This is Langel's thirteenth year at Colgate; he inherited a 7-23 team and spent three years digging out of the hole. First he got the Raiders to 500-ish over a three year span and then he hit the gas. Colgate hasn't done worse than 12-6 in the Patriot League since 2017 and they've won it five of the last six years, with a second-place finish to Navy in the COVID year the only exception.

Langel's teams haven't quite had the extreme turnover aversion that Beilein's did but the running theme through his last six years is torching the next from three. They're only 81st this year but the last three years Colgate hit 40% from deep, finishing in the top three nationally. His system is three-heavy, as you might expect, but that's dropped off a bit in recent years. His teams now pick up buckets of assists and shoot well from inside the arc.

Defensively they've been a bit all over the place but they are good on their own boards and don't give up many free throws.

The problem with Langel is his conference. The Patriot League is 30th of 33 conferences in average efficiency. The leap from the Patriot to the Big Ten is vast, far more daunting than the Mountain West, MVC, or the AAC.

One Man's Ranking

The top three guys are in the "probably not happening" tier, but:

  1. Shaka Smart
  2. TJ Otzelberger
  3. Lamont Paris
  4. Niko Medved
  5. Josh Schertz
  6. Darian Devries

Of the guys who would definitely come, Medved is my guy. He performed well enough to get CSU an obvious at-large bid in a (more or less) high major conference this year with a couple of D-II transfers in the starting lineup. A couple years ago his star was David Roddy, a 6'4" power forward who was a first round pick in the NBA draft. He held onto Isaiah Stevens despite the fact that he was a grad transfer and could have made bank in the portal. In six years at CSU the worst he's ever finished in 2PT% is 43rd; every other year he's been top 25.

All of this adds up to a guy who finds weird talent, coaches it such that they take and hit a lot of twos—very repeatable—and has done it at a level that is as close to the level Michigan plays at as anyone on the "obviously realistic" list.

Comments

KBLOW

March 16th, 2024 at 12:34 PM ^

IDK about this take as a head start "meaning nothing." Warde definitely blew it by not firing Howard earlier and giving Michigan a lot more time.

OSU has been putting feelers out for the past month and coaches interested in a job there have also had time to do their own due diligence and discuss potential moves with their families. That initial process alone can take weeks as both the coach and the potential new program even decide if it's worth pursuing. And OSU got to do it well before any of these candidates were focusing full-time on the post-season.

 

Nixon Bluett

March 16th, 2024 at 2:17 PM ^

A2 has sooo much more going for it. Just the fact that it’s 30 min from a Delta Airlines hub makes it twice as convenient as Cbus. Try booking a trip to Rome from Ohio, you’ll end up taking a regional to DTW first.

Throw in a killer local music scene that straddles Detroit and Ann Arbor and you have a clear winner. Not even close.

Goldenrod Mandude

March 17th, 2024 at 12:25 PM ^

Love  A2.  Downtown Columbus has a lot to offer. Outside of downtown the inner ring older burbs (Upper Arlington) (Worthington) have some character but mostly lack in consistency. The outer burbs (Hilliard) (Olentangy) are  small four-corner main streets that are nice, but have done nothing except spread in every direction with pop up neighborhoods and strip malls. The airport does provide more than OP suggests.  Not like DTW, but not a ghostown. There is no “college town” feel in Columbus like there is in A2, but there is certainly enough to do for 18-22 year olds flush with NIL money. 
 

I’m team Ann Arbor here, but Columbus has grown alot.

mGrowOld

March 16th, 2024 at 1:39 PM ^

“Michigan is a better job than OSU”

Is it?  I honestly don’t know the answer here.  They are far more willing to spend NIL dollars but have a shorter tolerance for failure (if Howard had the year that Holtzman had Warde probably would’ve extended, not fired him).

Both are football schools first and foremost and basketball definitely takes a back seat.   OSUs admission department does not take the position of being the program’s goalie to keep transfers out.

Both schools have had traditionally strong bball programs so that’s a wash IMO. Personally I think it’s a tie, if we both want the same guy it’ll come down to dollars and committment to NIL IMO.
 

 

bronxblue

March 16th, 2024 at 3:42 PM ^

They are far more willing to spend NIL dollars but have a shorter tolerance for failure (if Howard had the year that Holtzman had Warde probably would’ve extended, not fired him).

OSU was 5-15 in the Big 10 last year and 16-19 overall, with 3 of those wins coming in the Big 10 tournament run that wound up not signaling a return to form.  And of those 16 wins, 6 of them came against KenPom 250+ teams (by comparison, Michigan played exactly 1 team worse than 165th per KenPom and that was an EMU team they hamblasted).  Also, Holtman never got out of the first weekend at OSU, the Buckeyes never won the conference, and had 1 season where they finished better than Michigan per KenPom.  So no, I'm pretty comfortable saying they were very tolerant of mediocrity from Holtman.  

Again, I get that the party line around here is that Warde is the biggest POS in the world and OSU is run by the greatest, smartest super villains in the world but in fact the Buckeyes don't seem to particularly care about their basketball program and if anything Warde deserves some credit for cutting bait from Howard when he did.

alum96

March 16th, 2024 at 8:46 PM ^

Both schools have had traditionally strong bball programs

 

Michigan has been better in the past 15 years.  I am too tired to look farther back aside knowing their peak was early 60s. Matta had their last B10 championship in 2011-2012.  That have had two final 4s in the 2000s.  1 championship game appearances. (Burke's block was legit!)  They have not gotten out of the first weekend since 2013.

Again none of that shit matters to a 16 year old.  OSU has money and OSU admissions is not a bitch like ours.

alum96

March 16th, 2024 at 8:41 PM ^

Michigan has a better pedigree - that's really all we can say.  We have tougher admissions especially in transfer portal which is much of college basketball and they pay more.  So we are not better in those regards.  Imagine getting anyone you want in admissions vs almost no one when your roster is only 12 people.  Coming here you have 1 hand tied behind your back.

ERdocLSA2004

March 16th, 2024 at 2:05 PM ^

lol it doesn’t take that long to hire a coach.  In fact, OSU’s job has been open so long that it’s fairly obvious they aren’t sure whether they fired Holtmann too soon or if their interim coach is the real deal.  If you’re really looking for a coach, it shouldn’t take more than 2 weeks to hire a coach unless candidates start saying no.  

ERdocLSA2004

March 16th, 2024 at 2:38 PM ^

And which one of the realistic coaches that he listed are still likely to be in the tourney in 2 weeks?  My point exactly.  
 

Diebler has gone 6-2 and beat the No.1 team in the nation since they fired their coach over a month ago.  There’s more to this than just waiting til the season is over.

 

bronxblue

March 16th, 2024 at 4:16 PM ^

I think part of it is OSU got somewhat hot last year as well despite a lost season, including a string of wins over tourney teams, and it didn't really signal anything in terms of future success.  

I wouldn't read too much into their indecision at this point but I do expect they'll want to be careful they aren't just giving Deibler the job because of a dead cat bounce.

colonel

March 17th, 2024 at 10:36 AM ^

I see your point, but do we know that Michigan has not been putting out feelers for a while? Warde's comments at mid-season about his support for Juwan felt tone-deaf to me. Seemed like he could have been a bit more forthright about the obvious downward trend of the season. But Warde was always going to show some kind of support for the program, at least for the sake of protecting the players, and Michigan was always going to give a legendary program alum the dignity of finishing out the season. Maybe this whole time higher-ups have been working back channels to see which young coaching talents could become available? Can we definitely rule that out?

schreibee

March 17th, 2024 at 1:19 PM ^

I'm really displeased that this blog thinks so lowly of Michigan hoops that it feels the only realistic HC candidates are try-hard mid-major-y types with no real track record of anything except usually making the tournament (but not making deep tournament runs, Smart's VCU team of a decade ago excepted).

Maybe Brady Hoke should lead the search committee, fergodssakes?! 

AlbanyBlue

March 16th, 2024 at 11:50 AM ^

Great article....this is what I am hoping for, a talented coach at a smaller program who's ready for a P5 job. Rebuild this thing from the ground up, and let's roll.

bronxblue

March 16th, 2024 at 3:48 PM ^

Yes, vintage Virginia played elite defense years ago but since they won the title in 2019 here are their KenPom offensive/defensive rankings:

  1. 2020 - 234/1
  2. 2021 - 17/36
  3. 2022 - 85/59
  4. 2023 - 72/25
  5. 2024 - 192/7

And this year's team ain't making the tournament and haven't won a tournament game since the title season, losing twice as 4 seeds.  So yeah, if you want to buy a guy clearly on the down-swing go for it but if UM goes with Bennett that's basically conceding that basketball is in a caretaker position where the ceiling is mid Wisconsin.  

bronxblue

March 17th, 2024 at 9:18 AM ^

You're totally right, there's no chance a guy gets worse as a coach as he ages but instead is always capable of repeating the same level of success going forward.  That's why Tom Izzo has multiple national titles and his preseason #4 team is definitely not on the cusp of the bubble.

Again, if you've got actual arguments that you think Bennett can come to UM and win a title by all means share them.  But yeah, right now the difference between UVa and Wisconsin is they won the one NC game they got to while UW didn't, mostly because one played an okay TTU team with 1 draft picks and the other played against a decently loaded Duke team.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

March 17th, 2024 at 12:23 AM ^

I laugh because "Tony Bennett still hasn't said no" is a meme around TheSabre on account of a UCLA writer repeatedly saying basically the same thing you did when the UCLA job was open.  Man wrote "I'm hearing Tony Bennett hasn't said no to UCLA" for about a week.  Spoiler: he didn't go to UCLA, despite there not ever being a media report of him saying no.

JBLPSYCHED

March 16th, 2024 at 11:59 AM ^

Very helpful initial list, Brian. Personally I'm no more interested in paying a large buyout than Michigan likely is; it adds pressure on the new hire "win NOW." We need a program reset and a dose of patience, plus some clarity for the new coach about how we're handling NIL and transfers. An up and coming mid-major coach with a 3+ year track record of program building success sounds just right to me. I like DeVries but you've convinced me that Medved and Schertz are more or less just as worthy of a shot.

907_UM Nanook

March 16th, 2024 at 7:21 PM ^

Not sure why we're looking for up & coming 3 coaches you've mentioned, when we've got a Michigan man in Dutcher with equal & better resume to all of them. BTW, he just took SDSU to the natty last year. I'm not saying he'd leave sunny San Diago, a program he helped build. But he's gotta be on the short list if you're using the same bar for these coaches.

PS: Hang the banners Warde