snarling wolverine

April 20th, 2024 at 4:01 PM ^

Charles Matthews, Duncan Robinson, Chaundee Brown, Mike Smith, DeVante Jones, Jaelin Llewellyn, Olivier Nkamhoua, Nimari Burnett, Tray Jackson and Rubin Jones agree that it's just impossible to transfer here as a basketball player.

It's almost like we can get guys in if we do our diligence and make sure they have the right academic credentials ... who knew?

bronxblue

April 20th, 2024 at 2:19 PM ^

Feels like the floor for this team is around .500 in the league and fighting on the bubble if they get 2-3 more transfers, which would be a really nice year 1.  Wolf and Jones give them solid depth and May clearly has a plan.

RobM_24

April 20th, 2024 at 2:29 PM ^

I think Johnell is the obvious path to a tournament caliber team, but a guy like Wolf with multiple years is probably more important for May building a program. Assuming Goldin is in, this sets a very high floor for the frontcourt for the next two years and gives May time to find some young bigs for the future.

Stringer Bell

April 20th, 2024 at 3:19 PM ^

The floor?  I don’t think so.  Love what May is doing so far but this is a massive rebuild and we still have so few guards.  I think on the podcast they mentioned that portal-built teams were around .500 this year.  If we’re .500 on the season and competing for a NIT bid I’ll be happy.  Go .500 in league and compete for a tourney bid?  I’ll help build the Dusty statue

bronxblue

April 20th, 2024 at 7:44 PM ^

Next year's league just isn't that strong IMO so .500 feels pretty doable.  Right now we don't really know what Purdue looks without Edey; it's probably solid but you don't lose a 2-time NPOY and just keep chugging along, and as we saw in the national title game the drop-off from Edey to everyone else on that roster is pretty steep.  MSU similarly turns over a bunch of guys from a mediocre team, and I feel like Izzo is fading as an effective coach overall.  Wisconsin had a surprising run but then lost Storr and Hepburn and I still think Gard is a bit of a weird coach who, for example, nearly lost the lockerroom a couple seasons ago.  Illinois without Shannon is another unknown, though they'll be competitive.  NW just had their peak roster year so we'll see how they look next season, and Iowa was just...Iowa.  Rutgers has some talent coming in but they weren't great last year despite playing a terrible non-conference schedule.  Maryland is up in the air and will have a lot of roster turnover.  OSU was basically as bad as UM last season until the coaching change, at which point they started to shoot the ball much better from outside but we'll have to see if that's sustainable or just a hot streak.  And then you've got the 4 new teams coming in but considering only Oregon got in last season and that was only because they won the conference auto-bid, not sure if that changes the calculus much.  So it feels like a tractable conference where 2-3 more transfers at the right spots gives you a decent floor in what is shaping up to be a mediocre conference.

As for the portal teams that are around .500, that seemingly is based on 2-3 teams.  Like, St. John's took 9 guys but finished 21st per KenPom; they seemingly only missed the tourney because they lost to UM and/or they pissed off the wrong deity.  If May can turn around a roster and return a top-25 team that's pretty damn good.  WVU took 10 and were terrible but that was also a mess of a staff turnover that isn't close to the crater May stepped into at UM, as Howard isn't a drunk mess suing UM and being a raging asshole as well.  

I also think people may be overreacting a bit to how awful last season was possibly to factors beyond raw talent on the court.  Like, that team wasn't 8-and-whatever bad in terms of talent, just couldn't play a lick of defense and then had that insane Dug-is-sorta-suspended-so-we-only-play-one-PG-a-game situation that absolutely submarined winnable games.  They've lost guys like Reed and Dug but I think Tschetter and Burnett are solid players who can be better with more/better coaching, and I think May has a plan to deal with the lack of SF depth he's likely to walk into.  I'm actually less worried about guard depth now if a couple of the transfers show up.  And if May gets 2-3 guys from FAU then it's even less of a continuity concern with transfers that you sometimes see; importing guys who know your system and are experienced is different than starting from scratch with different guys in a new system for them.

So yeah, I'm probably a bit optimistic but I also feel a bit like last year's team has some 2020 football vibes in that they were abjectly terrible but in ways that better coaching can mitigate reasonably quickly.

 

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

April 20th, 2024 at 8:36 PM ^

This is the crucial point - UM needs guards who can create and control the big games, especially late in the season. 
Wolf is an excellent add and Dusty looks primed to build a quality roster.  Believe in his direction and tempered by the extent of the rebuild.  Still a long way to go from last in the conference to pushing for March Madness bids and pushing for N1G titles.

bronxblue

April 21st, 2024 at 7:47 AM ^

So me saying "the floor is 10-10" is outrageous to you (apparently that also means Sweet 16 as well but, hey, speak your truth king) while you saying "the floor is 8-12" is sobering, thoughtful basketball analysis.  Thanks for your insightful contributions to this discussion. 

Double-D

April 20th, 2024 at 2:22 PM ^

Blue eyed woman and Maize grenadine. 
The program is Dusty and recruiting is clean.                                                                            
Sound of the Victors and the fans pouring in. 
And it looks like the new coach is getting on.