August 1st, 2018 at 10:00 PM ^
Has OSU put other high-profile employees on administrative leave?
Probably Nick Saban
Ok so first off, it's not IF Urban is gone, it's when. There's no coming back from Paid Administrative Leave. Give as much shit to Ohio State as you want, but their last 4 coaches have all been fired. They fired Tressel, I think they'll make the right call.
Second, They're basically fucked for this year. Their staff consists of Greg Schiano and Kevin Wilson who aren't exactly scandal free, and Ryan Day who will probably take over as head coach. It wouldn't shock me if another recruiting scandal comes out soon, because people in general are very spiteful, and were about to be looking at a decent amount of people with nothing to lose that know where bodies are buried.
Third, in terms of their next coach, No chance on Herman. He's always been a Texas boy, and the only way he leaves Texas is if he gets fired. If I had to guess, they probably run out Ryan Day as interim coach and hire Matt Campbell after the season unless there's a big name coach out there.
McMurphy did say there are worse things about OSU he cannot disclose at this time, I wonder what he knows.
Mike Vrabel would probably get a good look.
No way Vrabel goes to college after he just got a head coaching job in the NFL. He's starting his first year this year.
Yeah what kind of guy would leave an NFL job for their dream job as coach of their alma mater?
I understand the similarity between that and Harbaugh coming to Michigan. But the situations are different. Harbaugh had been a head coach for a while before Michigan (San Diego, Stanford, SF). Plus he had difficulties with the SF administration and Harbaugh was looking for a new job. This is literally Vrabel's first year as a head coach. No one knows if he will even be a good coach. At that point it doesn't make sense for Vrabel to come back to OSU, when he can prove his worth at the NFL where I'm sure the Titans' administration supports him.
That’s crazy talk
Whoever it is will be better than the last guy. That is the deal with the Devil these guys have for coaches and quarterbacks.
Exactly this. and unlike last time we faced them after they lost their coach they won't have a depleted roster. I really don't think this will move the needle that much outside of maybe recruiting this year.
They never had a depleted roster, they just had Fickell as interm who wasn't ready to be a HC and had Joe Bauserman starting at the beginning of the year instead of Braxton Miller. They beat #10 Wisconsin later in the year.
I guess depleted wasn't the best term - some transferred and Pryor left but my point is that the team was not your "typical" OSU team. We won't get that type of break this year as they are loaded.
August 1st, 2018 at 10:11 PM ^
That 2011 team was pretty stacked with talent. Went 12-0 the very next year. Don't let one year and a bad record fool ya... ;)
I've been predicting for a couple seasons now that Meyer is near done at OSU and he will retire at Notre Dame once Kelly gets canned. Then Tom Herman would take over at OSU.
If OSU fires him, Meyer is done. Never to coach again. But I still hold OSU would hire Herman.
Unless there is suspicion he knew something too. Regardless there's a lot to play out here.
I don’t know why someone people think Herman dreams of coaching OSU. He’s spent most of his career in the state of Texas and is at UT, which probably was his actual dream job.
*so many people*
Would they go after James franklin ?
Probably Herman (I would hope not)
Will be interesting if they trust Day to take the reins and what happens.
One can hope.
Edit since I can't edit: I meant to reply to the James Franklin post above. In fact I'm 99.9% sure I did. Is there a bug with responses getting attached to the wrong comments?
Nick Saban...because that’s what happens
Man fuck OSU and their wife beating coaches.
I would think that they would let Schiano be the temporary coach as the season is so close. Then they would definitely go hard after Stoops.
There are two strong reasons not to name Schiano.
Would he stand up to the intense scrutiny of his background that would be sure to follow? That's not a chance worth taking.
Schiano would pushing hard to get the interim tag removed. If the season is going well, that will invite unnecessary controversy. They know they can do better for 2019.
Tennessee walked away from Schiano b/c the PR scrutiny was too intense and alumni became agitated. PR and alumni in this case are 5X the UT situation.
Please, please, PLEASE say it will be John Cooper.
Or Rodriguez ... wouldn't that be an odd twist on things?
Dantonio.
Also could someone explain how this is different than Izzo/Walton?
I'm wondering the same thing. Walton was an employee, that nugget of info was made public. Appling and Payne raped someone and then were allowed to play 4 years of college basketball. We all know the stories, or truths, I guess I just dont like when the bad guys get away with it at the end.
The difference is that OSU’s President may in fact have some integrity.
That's certainly not it. The national media cares about what is happening at OSU, the same cannot be said for MSU. The media terminated Urban Meyer, not anyone affiliated with OSU.
Except MSU was all over ESPN and this story wasn’t posted for four hours and only became the top story a few hours ago.
August 1st, 2018 at 10:09 PM ^
That's cute, you still believe that ESPN is the world wide leader?
No way do they get Herman - he will eventually have success at Texas, and OSU can't outbid Texas anyways. Herman's connection to the state of Texas is just as strong as it is to Ohio.
I think Matt Campbell will be choice #1. I could see Stoops. I could see the guy at Toledo getting a look, but he's probably not choice one, two, or three. I love the guy, Brown, at Troy, but he's pretty young and in a group of five league - idk if they'd go for that.
I’ll throw up if they get Stoops.
At least you know they won't have a defense.
Matt Campbell seems to be the guy a lot of OSU people on Reddit think would be the replacement
Jeff Brohm?
This is a legit concern....
how old is tressel?
Mark Dantonio
If Joe Moorhead has a good year at Miss St, he probably gets hired by OSU.
Dammit.
I bet he'd be on the list but not near the top after just one full season as a HC.
Can someone please explain to me how within a week Urban is going to lose his job, get suspended, whatever.....and these 2 assholes in E.L. get to just deny it once in a 2 min interview and walk away from it forever. Is what Urban did that much different than Dantonio or Izzo? Travis Walton was an employee of the team, right?
Among all the other shit that happened and neither had to answer for shit. Urban places on leave 7 hours after the report lol.
Well there’s actual proof tying Meyer to these allegations. There’s substance. Before reports of the text messages came out, there was absolutely no heat on Meyer at all. Then evidence was found and it’s blown up.
Have you actually found anywhere where there’s more than circumstantial evidence against Izzo or Dantonio? I mean if you have then we’re all ears and I’m sure the media would love to see it too.
Yeah, all the blacked out documents MSU released for FOIA. They took YEARS getting all of it together to cover their tracks.
Not only is the McMurphy piece a straight-up bombshell presented with all evidence nicely packaged with a bow, but it also comes one week after repeated bold-face denials by Meyer on national TV. Combine both of those things with the facts that OSU football exists in the national spotlight and there is very little other news right now, and you get a perfect storm here. No doubt McMurphy had all of that in mind as well.
MSU has negative decency. Apparently, OSU may have some shed of it left.
Different institutions. MSU's basically run by a board that has shown it cares first and foremost about athletic success. Football's obviously hugely important at OSU but it's still takes a backseat to the massive medical research facility that's the main engine of the university. Also, there's long been a desire among OSU's board and admins to be known as something more than a football school. There's probably something about the newness of MSU's football success versus the long term success of OSU football. Indeed, it's been so successful for so long, I'm sure there's some sense that it's self-sustaining (which, as we've seen, certainly isn't the case, but you can imagine that belief).