That FAU/Michigan hybrid rotation might be enough to be in bubble conversations late in the year. I doubt they make it but a 17-14/18-13 type team that goes 8-10 in conference would be a massive step forward for the program.
They’re around all summer taking classes. Most D1 football players are eligible for graduation after 3 years, allows them to exhaust their final two years if they grad transfer completing a masters.
You can't say he was Lamar Jackson without the skill that made Lamar Jackson so excellent. Denard was a really good college player that didn't have an NFL future outside of being a gadget guy.
Clinkscale is the one guy we lost who won’t be much of a loss. He’s a solid coach and a solid recruiter, but if a Michigan level school can’t replace that, they’ve got the wrong guy in charge
Why is it a bad thing that they spent a lot of money convincing 18-21 year olds to go play football there? Isn't this board all up in arms that Michigan isn't spending more in NIL?
It won't matter because Ryan Day is still the HC, but I don't get how paying players for their value is somehow morally wrong.
They made extremely competitive offers to both Minter and Elston, the problem is they wanted to go to the NFL for similar amounts of money and not having to recruit the roster as well as new players 365 days a year.
If you want to get mad at anyone, get mad at Warde for assuming hiring Moore would result in continuity.
Turns out when you hire elite coordinators with deep NFL roots, they want to go back to the NFL and not have to worry about recruiting their roster 365 days a year. Who knew?
Was warde supposed to put a gun in minters mouth and force him to stay? He wasn’t going to be a college DC anymore, no one is choosing college DC jobs over nfl DC jobs right now
He's probably gone. I'd wager a dollar he's a little pissed he didn't get interviewed for the job, even though he's not nearly as good of a coach as Sherrone Moore
Imagine being the coach of a team that doesn't need to continuously recruit every single player on the roster every year as well as incoming freshmen? And he can get 3-5 weeks after the season where he turns his cell phone off and spends it with his family instead of flying around the country wooing 17 year olds?
Most guys would leave for good NFL gigs with where college is right now.
His offense looked good because he had a significant talent advantage and a high level P5 caliber QB. They had some dudes on that offense.
The background check is in response to hiring his mistress to work in the athletic department at a previous job and getting in deep shit for using a university credit card for illicit uses. He's a dog shit coach and a dog shit person.
Most of those are actual offenses, not catch phrases like speed in space and the go go offense to get media members with half of a brain to write glowingly about them. There's a reason Texas told him to kick rocks
I can confirm Trevor Keegan does not care about those things. He doesn’t care if zak Zinter gets a lions share of the credit for leading an offense that the two of them took ownership in.
he doesn’t. The only things he cares about were accomplished. He’s the best 77 in Michigan history, and I doubt he cares about that either. He’s probably one of the best and most unsung leaders in michigan history, and I don’t think he cares. he’s probably one of the smartest and most savvy linemen I’ve ever seen. Doubt he cares.
but winning a national title? He cared. Beating Alabama? I can tell you for a 100% certain fact that he cared very very much.
You make it sound like there aren’t valid reasons to pick Alabama. Sure he probably got paid more, but Saban has an elite track record with DBs and he’s the greatest to ever do it
Zero chance. It's important to remember that Bieniemy has some insane red flags in his background and he isn't nearly a good enough coach to overcome those.
I think it's more likely Minter becomes the DC for Macdonald than the DC for the Ravens. Small chance he becomes Harbaugh's DC in the NFL, but I think he's as good as gone. But that's what happens when you hire great coaches
No, he’s been absolute shit. Don’t beat around the bush, I’m sure he’s a really nice guy but if any Ohio state player had the same stat lines as edwards and a similar recruiting profile, everyone on here would call him trash.
and he leaves tons of yards on the field, he’s their third best running back.
Those guys all had elite vision, Donovan Edwards isn’t good and that’s why the coaches don’t utilize him more.
Believe it or not, the 14-0 coaching staff of the best team in football only gives him a few touches a game for a reason. The staff that is making a point to utilize Semaj Morgan didn’t just forget to utilize Edwards, he hasn’t earned shit this year
I don’t think it’s jumping to conclusions to say that the player who has been very bad for michigan All year in a lesser role will probably do even worse in a much larger role. Need a real running back
Donovan edwards has been one of the worst running backs I’ve ever seen this year. He overdosed on his own hype.
I could give a fuck if he comes back next year, Michigan is 14-0 getting almost zero production from him and I won’t have to get upset every time he takes an IZ handoff in the wrong game to make it 2nd and 9. Thanks for the Ohio state game last year though
I think this is just how Jim Harbaugh prefers to operate. He had to make some concessions when they were underperforming relative to expectations, and then last year they were replacing a ton and there was some reading between the lines to be had.
They're returning a lot of talent and he's got the cache and the desire to keep things bottled up a ton.
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Not that odd. Geographically only separated from Michigan by one state, and it’s the state both of them need major footholds in to be successful
No there’s a walk on and former 3 star battling it out because JJ McCarthy declared too late and all the QBs had picked a destination already.
Which is an accurate statement. Really good school, not Michigan, but you can get a really good education there
That FAU/Michigan hybrid rotation might be enough to be in bubble conversations late in the year. I doubt they make it but a 17-14/18-13 type team that goes 8-10 in conference would be a massive step forward for the program.
I'm optimistic
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They’re around all summer taking classes. Most D1 football players are eligible for graduation after 3 years, allows them to exhaust their final two years if they grad transfer completing a masters.
impressive, but par for the course
Is he a good guy? He’s tried to fight multiple coaches, not even including the one on his staff.
You can't say he was Lamar Jackson without the skill that made Lamar Jackson so excellent. Denard was a really good college player that didn't have an NFL future outside of being a gadget guy.
And Bo and Bieniemy both have a proven history of overlooking sexual assault as a coach, great comparison
That sounds like a terrible idea.
Clinkscale is the one guy we lost who won’t be much of a loss. He’s a solid coach and a solid recruiter, but if a Michigan level school can’t replace that, they’ve got the wrong guy in charge
Why is it a bad thing that they spent a lot of money convincing 18-21 year olds to go play football there? Isn't this board all up in arms that Michigan isn't spending more in NIL?
It won't matter because Ryan Day is still the HC, but I don't get how paying players for their value is somehow morally wrong.
Fix it to all fumbles out of bounds are turnovers.
Don't fumble the football.
We finally have a poster worth a shit and not just saying "pay them a lot".
I'm in.
They made extremely competitive offers to both Minter and Elston, the problem is they wanted to go to the NFL for similar amounts of money and not having to recruit the roster as well as new players 365 days a year.
If you want to get mad at anyone, get mad at Warde for assuming hiring Moore would result in continuity.
Turns out when you hire elite coordinators with deep NFL roots, they want to go back to the NFL and not have to worry about recruiting their roster 365 days a year. Who knew?
Was warde supposed to put a gun in minters mouth and force him to stay? He wasn’t going to be a college DC anymore, no one is choosing college DC jobs over nfl DC jobs right now
Wait until you see whose son is UW's new OC too...
If Michigan promotes Clinkscale, they go 7-5 at best next year.
He's probably gone. I'd wager a dollar he's a little pissed he didn't get interviewed for the job, even though he's not nearly as good of a coach as Sherrone Moore
Jim Harbaugh is 60 years old... He's not coming back as a coach. This is a tearful and happy but sad goodbye.
Imagine being the coach of a team that doesn't need to continuously recruit every single player on the roster every year as well as incoming freshmen? And he can get 3-5 weeks after the season where he turns his cell phone off and spends it with his family instead of flying around the country wooing 17 year olds?
Most guys would leave for good NFL gigs with where college is right now.
He’s better than all of them. He’s going to be a first round pick at safety and a multiple time all American
His offense looked good because he had a significant talent advantage and a high level P5 caliber QB. They had some dudes on that offense.
The background check is in response to hiring his mistress to work in the athletic department at a previous job and getting in deep shit for using a university credit card for illicit uses. He's a dog shit coach and a dog shit person.
Most of those are actual offenses, not catch phrases like speed in space and the go go offense to get media members with half of a brain to write glowingly about them. There's a reason Texas told him to kick rocks
1. Jayden Maiava did transfer to Georgia for 48 hours before going to USC
2. Brennan Marion is Josh Gattis without the ability to pass a background check
3. Never trust a coordinator that tries to have a catchy phrase for his offense
I can confirm Trevor Keegan does not care about those things. He doesn’t care if zak Zinter gets a lions share of the credit for leading an offense that the two of them took ownership in.
he doesn’t. The only things he cares about were accomplished. He’s the best 77 in Michigan history, and I doubt he cares about that either. He’s probably one of the best and most unsung leaders in michigan history, and I don’t think he cares. he’s probably one of the smartest and most savvy linemen I’ve ever seen. Doubt he cares.
but winning a national title? He cared. Beating Alabama? I can tell you for a 100% certain fact that he cared very very much.
I fully believe that nothing happens in any good program without the knowledge of a head coach or those close to the head coach with autonomy.
You make it sound like there aren’t valid reasons to pick Alabama. Sure he probably got paid more, but Saban has an elite track record with DBs and he’s the greatest to ever do it
Stalions had full consent to do everything he did. They just kept it plausible deniability for obvious reasons. He's a hero
Stalions and Partridge yes because they were a part of the 2023 team.
Weiss fuck no, Poggi no. Neither were members of this team.
If Jim leaves and they don't lazily promote Sherrone Moore, Deboer will probably get the job and rightfully so. He wants it.
No. He's good friends with MacDonald and worked with him longer. He's going to want to branch out of the Harbaugh shadow eventually.
As a DC? If we wanted to be mediocre, I'd be all for it. Solid position coach, great recruiter, keep him away from the DC role.
Zero chance. It's important to remember that Bieniemy has some insane red flags in his background and he isn't nearly a good enough coach to overcome those.
He will jump because quality of living is way better plus it's a better testament to his skills as a coordinator
I think it's more likely Minter becomes the DC for Macdonald than the DC for the Ravens. Small chance he becomes Harbaugh's DC in the NFL, but I think he's as good as gone. But that's what happens when you hire great coaches
It's an awesome thing for the sport that the fearmongering political fundraising messages have leaked into college football.
No, he’s been absolute shit. Don’t beat around the bush, I’m sure he’s a really nice guy but if any Ohio state player had the same stat lines as edwards and a similar recruiting profile, everyone on here would call him trash.
and he leaves tons of yards on the field, he’s their third best running back.
It takes Kalel Mullings’ dad to tell you edwards sucks and is the third best back?
If anyone claims he had a reasonably good year, you can discount their opinion on football immediately.
you don’t have to think he sucks as bad as I do, but getting demoted and stuck on the bench isn’t reasonably good.
Those guys all had elite vision, Donovan Edwards isn’t good and that’s why the coaches don’t utilize him more.
Believe it or not, the 14-0 coaching staff of the best team in football only gives him a few touches a game for a reason. The staff that is making a point to utilize Semaj Morgan didn’t just forget to utilize Edwards, he hasn’t earned shit this year
Ok next time I talk about how bad Donovan edwards is at running back, I’ll be much nicer about it
I don’t think it’s…
I don’t think it’s jumping to conclusions to say that the player who has been very bad for michigan All year in a lesser role will probably do even worse in a much larger role. Need a real running back
Donovan edwards has been one of the worst running backs I’ve ever seen this year. He overdosed on his own hype.
I could give a fuck if he comes back next year, Michigan is 14-0 getting almost zero production from him and I won’t have to get upset every time he takes an IZ handoff in the wrong game to make it 2nd and 9. Thanks for the Ohio state game last year though
If Donovan edwards is a bellcow next year, michigan will be lucky to go 7-5
Jalen Mayfield has been one of the worst OL I've been able to see since he opted back in to the Covid season. Just abysmal at the NFL level.
The TCU play absolutely was his fault.
I think this is just how Jim Harbaugh prefers to operate. He had to make some concessions when they were underperforming relative to expectations, and then last year they were replacing a ton and there was some reading between the lines to be had.
They're returning a lot of talent and he's got the cache and the desire to keep things bottled up a ton.
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So TL;DR: nothing at all.
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