Two MORE redshirts burned
Going through the box score and the participation report, I noticed that we have two more burned redshirts.
Carlo Kemp and Elysee Mbem-Bosse both got into the action.
At this point it's easier to list those who still HAVE their redshirt as 21 of the 26 players that made it to the team from the 2016 class have burned their redshirt.
Those players with RS still remaining are: Ronald Johnson, Quinn Nordin, Brandon Peters, Stephen Spanellis and Kareem Walker.
September 18th, 2016 at 4:59 PM ^
With Taco and Furbush out, I think Uche plays.
I'd add anyone who didn't play yesterday to your list: Dwumfour, N. Johnson, McKeon and possibly Hill. Hill and Crawford are the most questionable to me. Hudson may have been injured in the game. As others have said, Nordin could still burn his.
September 18th, 2016 at 11:04 PM ^
September 18th, 2016 at 1:53 PM ^
Remember too that we're going to need to replace a lot on this team next year. A LOT. Harbaugh knows that better than anyone, I'm guessing he's thinking to himself that if his team has to be young next year, they might as well be experienced.
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September 18th, 2016 at 4:06 PM ^
And if early playing time for freshman helps attract more talented student athletes, then I'm in favor of playing everyone who's ready to play.
September 18th, 2016 at 4:11 PM ^
If this helps us marginally this year some might be okay with it. I just hate when you have seniors that finally start to click and would have been very good with a 5th year.
Just think about Taco, Gedeon, Dymonte Thomas, Hill and Stribling. How nice would it be if they were coming back next year? Sure this assumes they wouldn't enter the draft but how many of these had meaningful contributions as freshmen? Would it be anywhere near what a 5th year would do?
September 18th, 2016 at 1:57 PM ^
Wouldn't surprise me if Peters & Spanellis were the only ones to make it to the end with their redshirts in tact
September 18th, 2016 at 2:03 PM ^
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September 18th, 2016 at 2:51 PM ^
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September 18th, 2016 at 2:25 PM ^
I've stopped worrying about this stuff. If we assume that Harbaugh will continue to recruit well (and why not?), it really shouldn't matter much if some guys exhaust their eligibility in 2019 instead of 2020.
September 18th, 2016 at 2:29 PM ^
MORE?!
September 18th, 2016 at 3:58 PM ^
Got to get me some mo bettah gruel, yo.
September 18th, 2016 at 2:32 PM ^
For some reason (given our practice of playing/not-playing freshman in the past few years) I was under the impression that true freshman could play in non-conference games, but not conference games, and still preserve their redshirts? is that just something way off that I probably-most-definitely picked up from a Matt Millen broadcast?
September 18th, 2016 at 2:53 PM ^
September 18th, 2016 at 4:11 PM ^
Next season, when the Big Ten goes to a nine conference game schedule, the non-conference portion shrinks to 3/12, which is 25%.
September 18th, 2016 at 4:37 PM ^
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September 18th, 2016 at 5:21 PM ^
Rutgers is a conference game.
/s
September 18th, 2016 at 2:37 PM ^
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September 18th, 2016 at 6:22 PM ^
I think this is spot on. If we recruit the way we all think we're going to recruit in the next few years under Harbaugh, this will not be an issue. Also agree that preserving Redshirts for freshmen o-linemen make sense, so I was somewhat surprised when they burned Onwenu's redshirt this year (I can see Bredeson or any other freshman that is a top-7 lineman, or needed because of injury). Would also throw safeties into the pile of "would prefer these freshmen redshirt because that's such a tough adjustment from high school to college (similar to QBs). The trigger should be pulled for everyone else when they're ready
September 18th, 2016 at 9:23 PM ^
Number of additional things
- avoids those 5th year "conversations" that the media loves to pick up and run with
- the huge class Hoke had to recruit after Rod got canned setup this off center lobular distribution of class sizes, somehow it seems like it should get back to center.
- having an exorbitantly large group of "5th year" can payoff big if it hits just right, but then its bust for like 2 more years after that.
September 19th, 2016 at 12:18 AM ^
September 18th, 2016 at 2:42 PM ^
I think everyone should burn their red shirts, it's a terrible color.
September 18th, 2016 at 2:55 PM ^
I have always had a kernel of terror inside of me when I watch a Michigan game: fear of that team-changing, season-altering injury. Every football fan has seen examples of this; Colorado fans saw it yesterday. The most recent example for us was Glasgow’s injury mid-season last year. Further back, Russell Bellomy @ Nebraska comes to mind.
I have this 3D image in my mind of the cliff that exists just behind various starters on either side of the ball, a cliff sometimes as sheer as the cliff from Denard to Russell. The point of this post is that coaches obviously know injuries happen, and they hunger for real depth. Teams like Colorado—a damn good team, in my opinion—have little depth; their starters are all standing on the edge of a high cliff, like Liufau. Teams like Alabama and Ohio State have staggering depth, at worst a gentle slope behind most of their starters.
I might suggest that the great redshirt bonfire is Harbaugh in an all-out push for depth, and that we will see this going forward. The day and age of saving redshirts and crossing your fingers that you don’t have to plug in a walk-on to preserve an extra year in the far future for a blue-chip are gone, in my opinion.
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September 18th, 2016 at 3:50 PM ^
September 18th, 2016 at 7:57 PM ^
ever getting turned down for a freshman that played less than the limits. Not for a fifth year. They only seem to scrutinize them when you apply for a sixth year.
September 18th, 2016 at 4:35 PM ^
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September 18th, 2016 at 5:47 PM ^
You base this on what?
September 18th, 2016 at 5:56 PM ^
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September 18th, 2016 at 6:33 PM ^
Understanding the redshirt rule is not hard, Understanding hiw you can judge that they did not earn the right to play is what is hard.
September 18th, 2016 at 6:51 PM ^
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September 18th, 2016 at 4:00 PM ^
I expect Kareem Walker's redshirt to be burned as soon as he gets his grades in better shape. Add another one to the fire. lol
September 18th, 2016 at 4:33 PM ^
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September 18th, 2016 at 5:23 PM ^
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September 18th, 2016 at 5:27 PM ^
I have no idea what the redshirt rule is but it seems like they have to play a certain amount of game time or snaps? Whats the truth to losing a redshirt possibility?
edit, nevermind.
September 18th, 2016 at 6:11 PM ^
The last thing a Michigan player should want is a red shirt. A truly dispicable color.
September 18th, 2016 at 7:20 PM ^