stephenrjking

December 31st, 2022 at 8:40 PM ^

People saying "fire everyone" are just plain going nuts.

But that doesn't mean I get the calls. 

I don't get a lot of this stuff.

It was... like some other team was playing than the one we watched all year. 

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Erik_in_Dayton

December 31st, 2022 at 8:48 PM ^

That might have been the weirdest Michigan game I've ever seen. I think the OCs got too cute with the Philly Special (but, then again, they look like geniuses if that works). And then, a few more moments of craziness later, I think we saw the staff reacting to a wholly unexpected situation. They made obvious mistakes while doing that. But they also coached a team that never gave up despite looking dead in the water multiple times.

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stephenrjking

December 31st, 2022 at 8:57 PM ^

There were several moments in both halves where I thought the game was over, and then it wasn't. 

I mean, people yelling about the coaches are yelling about some reasonable stuff... but also yelling about stuff that's totally contradictory. I've seen people flame Weiss for both not throwing on early standard downs and doing it too much (remember the first pick-six was literally the first play of the second drive). 

And injury issues, while they can happen to everybody, are real and had a material effect on both gameplanning and real-time playcalling. But what effect that was, exactly... well, we don't know. 

The craziness of the game contributes to the craziness of the postgame meltdown, but that doesn't make the meltdown accurate. 

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Optimism Attache

December 31st, 2022 at 9:13 PM ^

There were several moments in both halves where I thought the game was over, and then it wasn't. 

It's not a great consolation, but the fight the players showed was tremendous. Most teams get down like that and probably quit. Also, McCarthy had his share of mistakes, but he also showed he doesn't get too rattled mentally and was a good leader out there. Made some great plays. 

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HarBooYa

December 31st, 2022 at 8:40 PM ^

No drag routes or quick hitting throws was puzzling given d formation.  3 yards every play wins.  

Kept JJ in pocket after he evicerates TCU D with his legs.  Just refused to roll him to his favored right   It’s bizarre.

Minter blitzing entirety of team more than once was bad.  Left things a bit open. 

We were a different team defensively in the red zone, tempo killed us again   

Time management was awful on our last TD drive.  
We need a plan b when time is of the essence  

No Stokes to mash against smaller line. 

Punt game blowed except for last one.

 

 


 


 


 

 

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GRRBlue

December 31st, 2022 at 8:41 PM ^

Who would’ve thought that the stupidest call in the history of college football on 4th and goal from the 2 would set the tone for the entire game.

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1blueeye

December 31st, 2022 at 8:43 PM ^

It’s been the same shit for 50 years. Michigan plays in a conference where they can boa constrictor the purdues and iowas of the world and prepare a year long plan against Ohio state and win occasionally. Then in a bowl game vs dynamic talent and exotic (well just modern) football schemes, they are lost. How many bowl games/ playoff games has Michigan won in my 51 years of life, I bet they’re 12- 37 or something like that. You just can’t approach these teams like they’re Purdue. 

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Red is Blue

December 31st, 2022 at 8:48 PM ^

When they showed Jack Harbaugh near the end, sure looked like he said "time out.  What are you doing." 

As it played out, I don't think it mattered, but would have be nice to have more time if they stop them earlier.

Think clock management when Michigan has the ball with 4 minutes left was bad.  If they manage time better there, M has well over a minute when they get the ball (assuming everyone else plays out the same way)

 

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Tacopants

December 31st, 2022 at 11:16 PM ^

that was the only late game time management item that was handled correctly. Correctly held onto them after 1st down, giving up 7 yards on 2nd to set up 3rd and 1 meant that TCU would likely get it, so might as well save them for the next set.

 

The real problem was the lack of urgency in the drive right before where they scored a TD but ate up too much clock to do it. If the situation was reversed it feels like TCU would have used maybe 1/3 of the time that Michigan did on that drive.

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M_Born M_Believer

December 31st, 2022 at 8:49 PM ^

This is the only thread I can stomach right now because this is the root of what happened falls on the coaching staff.

Two completely F'd up play calls on the goal line - 0 points

And on defense, Michigan had played for 13 games with a excellent bend but don't break defense.  However in this game they thought it would be a good idea to max blitz Duggan?  Their top WR Johnson.... 2 catches on max blitz for 126 yards....

Playing him straight up and covering.... 4 catches on 7 targets for 37 yards...

Max Duggan... 2 blitzes.. 2 completions for 126 yards...

Max Duggan balance of the game... 12/27 for 99 YARDS (I know there were other blitzes but this is what stood out...)

There were 3 times in the late 3rd Q early 4th where Minter thought it was a good idea to max blitz...

1) 50 yard completion to Johnson leading to a TD...

2) 69 yard TD run by the back up RB...

3) 76 yard catch and run by Johnson...

3 plays.... 20 points (1 missed XP in there)

This was clearly a case of the coaching staff over thinking this game plan

 

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waittilnextyear

December 31st, 2022 at 8:55 PM ^

I'm not going to shit on the coaching staff (not much, anyway) for this one. I don't think this was their best effort in terms of play calling, strategy, or time management and I'll just leave it at that.

However, if you had told me right after 2020 that UM would be the two-time reigning B1G champs and have a two-game winning streak vs OSU, while beating BOTH OSU and MSU in the same season for the first time in far too long, I would say "fuck yea."

For the goobers who were late to the Harbaugh bandwagon, who were puffing their chests out when the team was 13-0, and now want to throw everyone and everything under the bus...some of you guys were like "it's cool if we go 6-6, if two of those wins are against our rivals" and now it's time for you to walk the walk. Instead of your incessant miserable bullshit.

For the future, with nothing to be done for this season, I'd like to see recruiting pick up a notch. With back-to-back CFP appearances, you'd think it would. I'd also like to see Harbaugh attack "bowl preparation" with a new strategy because that's kind of the last remaining blemish on his resume, with UM not winning their final game of the season since 2015. I'd also like for the coaching staff to stay largely intact, save for any "addition by subtraction" moves like Gattis to Miami (YTM).

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Nathan60

December 31st, 2022 at 8:56 PM ^

At this point I am pretty sure Harbs and the boys don't change the game plan week to week. Next year I'm gonna need to se some progressions by the qbs.

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OldMaize16

December 31st, 2022 at 8:58 PM ^

Two plays, completely on the coaches lost the game in my opinion. 1st and goal at the 1, why do we not qb sneak in short yardage like they did with or without someone pushing who cares it’s half a yard. 3rd and 7 on their 24 down 3, we sent an all out  blitz for what? The qb could not make throws with coverage all game, their receivers dropped everything contested. I just don’t get it.

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JTP

December 31st, 2022 at 8:59 PM ^

Again great regular season but hand out awards and read the press clippings we come out after the 4 week break looking like a different team 

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goblue81

December 31st, 2022 at 9:06 PM ^

From the bottom to the top… they all sucked today.   Players, coaches… it was a team effort to be that bad.  
 

And somehow… we still had the ball with a chance to win at the end.  That’s probably what makes this sting so much.  We would have won easily if we didn’t shit the bed and set the house on fire.

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907_UM Nanook

December 31st, 2022 at 9:12 PM ^

I think the arrogance of Harbaugh showing up once again by insisting to establish the running game first is right at the top. And I guess that's what I see over and over, the same runs up the gut into a stacked box. It's a thing the other team knows is coming, its arrogance of Jim Harbaugh. And its disrespectful to the opponent. 

Minter really came out of the 2nd half determined to dial up more pressure, and TCU was prepared to find the open area. First time all season that Minter has made a bad adjustment, but it led to at least 2 TD's in a row before he went back to the base coverage. Costly mistake.

Offense was terrible in the RZ in the 1st half, then seemed to get better on the 2-point conversions in the 2nd half. No pace of play, JJ just floating around in the backfield while TCU playing deep coverages, no flow in the playcalls, no JJ runs on option plays. I've been disappointed with the offensive playcalls & QB development all season, would be happy to see Weiss move on.

This team was more talented across the board and once again picked the worst time of the year to play their worst game. As long as Harbaugh is coach, he's going to be at a disadvantage in bowl games on scheme & preparation.

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