enlightenedbum

October 30th, 2022 at 12:57 PM ^

That's the one that took me from "suspend some guys" to "fuck 'em, they don't get to play football this year."

Not one guy holding their teammate back.  Standing idly by drives me nuts.

CompleteLunacy

October 30th, 2022 at 4:45 PM ^

And then people say things like “iTs ThE tUnNeL” and I lose my remaining  sanity.. Fuck how hard is it to NOT assault players after a game is over? Are we such an uncivilized society that we can’t even expect athletes on opposite teams to walk next to each other after a game without expecting a fight to break out? It’s just a game, for the love of god. 
 

Like be upset, even the jawing back and forth I can handle. But this shit is unprecedented - any comparisons to PSU and OSU recently are frankly insulting to PSU and OSU. Jawing and throwing Pb&j is pretty benign compared to fucking criminal gang-like assault that at minimum has resulted in one broken nose. 

R. J. MacReady

October 30th, 2022 at 7:31 PM ^

Now they are calling Harbaugh a racist?  Wow.  Stay classy Staeeee.  where is the Gov in all this?  She went to MSU.  

https://247sports.com/college/michigan-state/board/93/Contents/michigan-state-hc-mel-tucker-i-dont-know-what-happened-in-postgame-altercation-at-michigan-196443595/?page=13
 

“Harbaugh isn’t naive. He’s incorporated being “baaad a$$” into the umaa brand. It’s not coincidental that two weeks in a row he’s making remarks about the two minority coach’s in umaa’s division. It’s MSU and PSU’s coaches who don’t have control of their team. Harbaugh needs to make others look bad to make himself look good.”

 

 

Hail to the Vi…

October 30th, 2022 at 3:52 PM ^

This is absolutely part of the appropriate recourse for this type of chicken shit behavior. Having said that, I am not putting a lot of faith in the MSU administration to respond in a way that holds these goons fully accountable. 

We're talking about an institution that is currently refusing to comply with the Freedom of Information Act around inquiries into how MSU is financing the absurd salary they're paying their football coach.

Factoring in all the other spineless, shoddy behavior from both their Athletic Department and the Administration as a whole in the last few years leads me to believe they will begrudgingly do the absolute bare minimum to get media coverage off their backs and reduce their exposure to law suits. They'll bitch and whine about it the whole time, and play the victim until the story dies down and then take no further action to address the systemic pattern of violent, criminal behavior within their athletic programs.

It may be petty of me, but I hope going forward Jim Harbaugh and the football program's mindset going into this game is to absolutely embarrass and physically dominate MSU for a full 60 minutes every year. 

There should be much disrespekt in this rivalry, because Michigan State does not behave in a way worthy of respect to begin with.

FrankX

October 30th, 2022 at 3:04 PM ^

Well, as a staff member of Football Operations,  he would know the caliber and character of the Spartan players.  It would take a second for me to charge into a pack of wild dogs to save a child.  And then I would anyway.  He is in a role that must be expected to protect student.  And I don't mean protect them from prosecution. 

Blue@LSU

October 30th, 2022 at 1:00 PM ^

That dude had something in his hand when he hit him. Charges have to be filed.

And what is that Sparty dude (coach?) doing running away instead of pulling his players off?

FauxMo

October 30th, 2022 at 1:00 PM ^

The first video I saw last night made me say, "meh, totally inappropriate, but no big deal. Heat of the moment bad decision. No harm, no foul." 

THIS video looks like an MSU player assaulting a UM player with a helmet. That is assault with intent to cause bodily harm and is way, way over the top. Methinks someone is going to end up dealing with the justice system over this... 

FauxMo

October 30th, 2022 at 1:12 PM ^

Honestly, the first video I saw I could not tell if it was punching or just pushing, sort of a gauntlet of players continuously pushing the UM player to the ground. I couldn't see any legs, so kicking could have been happening but I couldn't really tell. This is, obviously, a clear case of assault. 

RedRum

October 30th, 2022 at 9:57 PM ^

In logics defense, there are a multiple issues. 1.  There should never be assaults. 2. If you represent a university, there is a threshold above criminality. 3. There is judgment in escalating or deescalating a situation. 4.  A scuffle amongst D1 athletes is different than an 18 year old man beating a 55 year old. That is where law is tricky. If you want to get up and say, no one should be assaulted for running to the locker room. Congratulations on making an argument no one disagrees. The MSU players actions are inexcusable. The UM player could have waited a minute or two and have avoided the situation. Both things can be true. The UM player did nothing wrong. But judgement can still be bad. Anyway, I have faith in the police, the press and the Big ten to sort this out. 
 

if this happened in a college bar, all would have been arrested. Fact.