OTish: Miami has canned Josh Gattis

to quote Bryan "Sometimes people are just in charge of things"

everyone is hired to take the fall eventually. Weird that it was so late in a cycle. Makes me wonder if something happened that was a tipping point

does everyone remember a post on the board from when he started at UM, and he made some comment to the movers or a repair guy or a tv installer or something about how he was only gonna be here 2 years anyway?

i got bad vibes from that guy from the start

Gattis is a good recruiter and wide receivers coach. He may even pan out to be a decent OC down the road. I wasn't that enamored with him while he was here and didn't like the way in which he left the program.  

That said Miami was a dumb choice and may have been hard for any OC to succeed in their first year there, let alone someone who is still early in their coordinating experience. 

May have gotten out over his skis a bit. Time will tell. Our most recent co-OC did computer crimes and got canned so who knows. Glad we have Sherrone and Jim. Our future remains bright. 

I'm not a fan of kicking a man when he's down. Or at least not when being down is due to being fired. I've been fired before and its a god-awful feeling. Doesn't matter who you are, its a shit feeling. 

I wasn't a fan of how he trashed the program on his way out the door, but I don't know the whole story so he may have had his reasons for feeling the way he did. In any case, I hope he lands on his feet somewhere.

Mixed feelings?  Those who aren't with us are against us.  He was a rising star and I believe if he had stayed and ran the Harbaugh offense in 2022, he'd be headed to a HC job.  But he thought he was the one responsible for the team's success in 2021 and was going to show everyone by leaving.  Oops.

"One year removed from winning the Broyles Award and then immediately crapping on the program that helped him reach that achievement."

It's karma.  Josh seems to do this everywhere he's been. 

He bet on himself and extinguished all collateral in doing so. Turns out he bet everything on a hand of a 16 when the dealer had a 7 showing

Only thing this confirms for me is how overrated these end of year awards are. Including Heisman.  As much as I and everyone here hates MSU, it was criminal that Kenneth Walker wasn't invited to the Heisman finalist show at the least (which by the way I loved 😂). And as everyone who follows college football knew Gattis had no freaking business winning the Broyles. 

Reminds me, I was chatting with a buddy of mine about the basketball team, I was kind of bashing Juwan and the basketball roster, and he fires back that Juwan was Coach of the year a couple of years ago and he's clearly not the problem.  Lol.

He wasn't great this year but also Cristobal burns through OCs and so I'm not totally surprised.  Gattis wasn't a great OC but I wouldn't put all the blame on him in Miami

I bet he doesn't release a statement similar to that of Matt Weiss....

It was really difficult to know how much of our success was Gattis versus *gestures at the many of factors*. It seemed his early offense was mediocre and suddenly in 2019 we refocused on the run game and turned around. It felt like Harbaugh taking the reigns back. Devin Gardner swore that the 2021 offense was primarily Gattis despite it feeling like a Harbaugh offense.

It is a shame how he left Michigan/went to Miami. Many predicted it would go poorly and it was proved correct. 

That being said, those complaining about the Broyles Award have to consider Harbaugh picked Gattis as our nominee.

Gattis got what he deserved.  
 

https://twitter.com/TomVH/status/1490378413613408256

Remember when he got in a Twitter spat with Mike Locksley about who was a better coach and who was calling the offense?  And we convinced ourselves Gattis must have been right because he was our coach?

Fun times.

Lol I love everything about this. Gattis got all the credit for an offense that wasn't his in 2021, got pissed when he wasn't named head coach in waiting, burned all his bridges at Michigan, proceeded to go to Miami where he made one of the best young QBs in the country worse, then gets canned after 1 season. As a wise man once said: "Karma is a bitch"

I don't like to see anyone lose their job.

But I also don't like to see people who are bad at their job keep doing it.

This is a pride comes before the fall situation. Or maybe "when keeping it real goes wrong" from the Chappelle show. The better move for Gattis would have been to get over his feelings and work at Michigan until he could snag a head coaching gig. Moving laterally to Miami never made sense and it isn't surprising that it didn't work out.

Is there a bigger fraud than this guy?

To think we were having serious discussions about being okay with Gattis as head coach during the last year’s Harbaugh/NFL soap opera. 

Kinda confused by the general reaction when one of our coaches goes and flames out.  The glee that seems to come by some odd validation that a coached sucked doesn't overcome my question: "if he was so bad, why was he here in the first place (and for so long)?"

So, you can just assume we hold on to shitty coaches past their time, or that he was a good coach in a bad situation - for the program, it's more important that the latter is true versus the former. 

I think we all knew he wasn’t the brains behind this operation and when he took his talents to south beach I had a feeling he’d get exposed 

Maybe he can buy a one way ticket to Thailand.

Easy to dump on the guy after he dumped on the program for what seems like bad reasons. Seems like a an above average recruiter and coach but still needs to develop as a play caller and maybe won't ever nail that. Aside from his BIG feelings being easily hurt, I think he'd be a better HC than OC. Not sure he'll get that opportunity now. If he could have held on here for last year he'd probably be at Purdue right now. 

Where will he go next? Doubtful that he lands in a Power 5 program.

He will land on his feet and will be working in some capacity at Maryland.  

Not bummed at all. I thought he was a decent coach, growing into his role while at UM. He really cost himself in the long-run with his exit, timing and HOW he exited.

My mother had great advice about appearances - people are never as GREAT as they appear on their best day, nor never as BAD as they appear on their worst day.

I think the guy was an above average OC, better than Debord for sure but not nearly as good as de-facto OC Gary Moeller was for Bo in the 2nd half of the 1980s. 

I'm retired now but whenever we'd interview someone, whether internally or externally, we always tried to ascertain through some questions about their current work environment WHY the person wanted to LEAVE their current workplace. Was their interest in this job more because of what they desired in the new job vs. leaving someone less fulfilling in their current job. Gattis must have been so negative about his current "lack of love" at UM that he was willing to leave for anywhere.

I am a bit surprised that Mario dumped him after one year. Gattis walked into high expectations with Van Dyke and failed spectacularly. Even before VD got hurt, he wasn't good. He got benched during an ugly loss to MTSU. Still, Mario had a freebie year at his school and could have waited to dump Josh during the next season as a fall guy if Miami was stinking at mid-season. 

Josh is going to have to navigate through MAC-like programs for a while to get his namebrand back up. After the Miami flameout, no major program is going to give him the OC opening. Maybe he'll get to mature riding the bus from Mt. Pleasant or K-ZOO to Muncie.

If he wouldn’t have went scorned ex on Twitter then I’d have sympathy. Guy acted the way you teach your kids not to act. Weiss handled his like a true pro compared to Gattis. F em!

Can someone remind me where he "crapped on Michigan".

I recall it happened, but I don't recall what he specifically said.

Broyles Award is less meaningful than being voted most likely to succeed in high school.

Guess this was the second administration that "under-appreciated" him.

Gattis can pound sand on a Miami beach somewhere. Clear as day that JH (and others) assisted greatly in getting him that award, and now the REAL picture is clear for everyone.  He sucks as an OC and is an immature jackass.  

 

I guess the administration there didn't make him feel appreciated either.   At some point he's going to run out of places where he feels wanted.

Conclusion: Awards don’t mean shit.

I will say I prefer a guy leaving the job with some salty words to a guy leaving under the shroud of some mysterious criminal allegation.

When Gattis left I didn't have to wonder if he forgot his ticking time bomb.