(OT) What's your Plan: Nukes, Pink, or Both?
Hugely-anticipated weekend at the silver screen. Last time we had a collision of counter-programming like this was The Dark Knight against Mama Mia! (yes, another Nolan film).
Anyone planning to see both Oppenheimer and Barbie this weekend? On the same day, even?
Raises my hand. On Friday night, we have 6:20 pm tickets to Oppenheimer then 10:10 pm tickets to Barbie (same theatre, different rooms). Question, do we need to walk out the exit lane and circle around to have our tickets scanned again? Which we probably have to do anyway, the food is "outside" the ticketed area and I seriously am going to need a caffeinated product in our half-hour between films. "Does that come in an I.V. bag?"
I mean, who doesn't want three hours of nuclear incineration topped off by two hours of pink happiness.
I can't speak for others, but none of the decisions I make are filtered for whether they make me appear "manly" or not. I do have a "is someone trying to separate me from a not-inconsequential amount of cash for something I won't enjoy/value/don't need" filter, however, which is generally triggered by the heavy marketing/forceful sales pitches.
this is such a dumb take.
”you don’t like what I like so you’re <insert degrading comment>”
maybe, just maybe, there are adult men and women who simply don’t give a single flying fuck about Barbie?
Movies about real dolls (as opposed to fictional killer dolls, i.e. Talkie Tina from The Twilight Zone, Small Soldiers, M3gan) produced by, or in conjunction with, the maker of those dolls generally don't go well, i.e. Masters or the Universe, all the Transformers things (quite possibly the dumbest fucking films ever made), the G.I. Joe movies. So, yeah, I'm skeptical. I'll see it when it streams though, probably. I'm all about streaming so I'll catch Oppenheimer that way. It does look promising...
Agree that the live action transformers and gi Joe movies are trash, as were the original animated series (also He Man)
but the animated transformers movie is a classic. They improved upon their animation bigly, had a killer take on the theme song (by Lion… that song went harder than it had any business doing in a kids movie) featured weird Al, eric idle, orson Welles, Leonard nimoy, and it basically traumatized a generation. Real cinema magic.
also masters of the universe was a classic. Dolph lundgren and Meg foster were excellent as always, but Frank Langella absolutely knocked it out of the park. Great exploitation-style sci fi family adventure movie.
I hear you. I was referring specifically to the Michael Bay films. And I'll grant you Masters of the Universe if we can give it the MST3K treatment and laugh through it. I mean, it's basically a knockoff of Conan the Barbarian (which, I guess the toys are too?), so we could have fun riffing off that alone.
Fair enough, as long as we can grant that Conan the Barbarian is one of the greatest movies ever made!
I may watch Oppenheimer (undecided), but I seriously doubt I'll watch Barbie any time soon..in fact I strongly suspect I'll never watch it.
I - perhaps unsurprisingly - never had a Barbie doll, I am also not really interested in what Hollywood ca. 2022 has to say about it.
I have zero interest in Barbie. Dolls freaked me out as a kid. My kids have a similar distrust of them. It looks creative, and I hope it does well. It’s just not for me. I’ll probably see Oppenheimer by myself at an imax. Wife has zero interest and I kinda want to just experience it by myself.
is this why?
I just watched Tenet something like 8 days ago and unfortunately I'm still on the "never watching another Nolan film ever again" train. Maybe it'll go away by this weekend but I kind of doubt it.
Bad train to be on.
Yeah, Tenet didn't seem to make any fucking sense at all the only time I saw it. I actually hated Inception which takes like an hour and a half to explain itself then devolves into a bunch of simultaneous by-the-book action sequences on the road back to nowhere. But Memento. FUCKING MEMENTO! Nolan is in my director hall of fame for that alone. And how incoherent can Oppenheimer be? It is a biopic, after all.
Tenet was so confusing that it didn't deserve a second watch. And I understand the theory of negative entropy.
Inception was a bit confusing at first, but overall I liked it. And the soundtrack is awesome!
But I agree with you. Oppenheimer should not be too incoherent. Perhaps in the same category as Dunkirk.
Same here. I’ll catch Barbie on streaming but three hours or Nolan is too much for me at this point.
Team Barbenheimer. Seeing both.
Dr. Strangelove is only an hour and a half and it has both nukes AND idiots in it.
"WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL THE WORLD, AYE?"
Dr. Strangelove FuN fAcT: Major Kong (Slim Pickens), when reviewing their survival kits, originally concludes by saying "A fella could have a pretty good weekend in Dallas with all that stuff." The line was changed to Vegas because of the Kennedy assassination. It's a dub though, so you can still see Pickens mouth the word "Dallas."
I didn't know that.
Another fun fact: There are a number of people thought to be the real-life inspiration of Dr. Strangelove. One of them was Herman Kahn, a physicist and nuclear strategist. His solution to the Chicken Game was to rip the steering wheel off the car and throw it out the window (to ensure that you can't swerve), analogous to the Doomsday Machine in the movie. The strategy was labeled 'Chicken a la Kahn'.
Also: Everything General Jack D. Ripper says about the chlorination of drinking water is a core tenet of the John Birch society. There were hard core Birchers in the upper echelon of the military in the 60s. General 'Buck' Turgidson (George C. Scott) is clearly based on Curtis LeMay, who famously advised Kennedy to "irradiate" Cuba during the missile crisis. When Kennedy suggested this would start WWIII, LeMay was cool with that because the U.S. had a missile advantage re. the Soviets, and would, just as Turgidson reasoned, only suffer tens of millions of casualties versus hundreds of millions later as the USSR reached parity. Because, as he saw it, nuclear war was inevitable, so better to do it now than later. LeMay, who crafted the mass fire-bombing campaigns in Germany and Japan during WWII, was a loud and constant advocate for first strike in general. Kennedy declined that advice which is why we're all alive today.
I found "Bomber Mafia" by Malcolm Gladwell to be good read to support your points. (He is also the author of Tipping Point which I also recommend.) It is difficult to put bombs on a military target (so don't think you can bomb your way to victory) and it is immoral and ineffective to bomb civilian populations.
Definitely Oppenheimer. I'll only see Barbie if there comes a point that it's the only movie in theatres I haven't seen yet.
I’m just sitting in my bunker waiting for the sequel to Cocaine Bear to come out. That and WD’s superguide.
Your defination of "pink happiness" is totally different than mine.
The reality of Barbie and Ken's life
It's funnier if one thinks of Don as having created this just to post it here
Excited for both films and welcome any opportunity to go to the theater. Going to a Chevrolet screening of Barbie on Wednesday night and then will hit Oppenheimer on Thursday or Friday.
Tell me you don't have kids without telling me you don't have kids? Seeing back to back movies on a Friday night.
Don't get me wrong, I envy you, but that part of our lives ended several years ago, and I don't really care to pay for a babysitter for 6+ hours if I don't really have to. Shoot, I haven't been into any movie theater, PERIOD, in over a year, and that was when I took a personal day on my birthday. I just thought about "where is somewhere that I can be by myself for several hours and be entertained," and a movie theater felt perfect.
Would love to see Oppenheimer, but my guess is I won't see it until its streaming. I could drag my wife to go and see it, but I doubt she'd really enjoy herself. Meanwhile, the same could be said for Barbie. She'd go and see it. Margot Robbie is great, but I have no desire of any kind to go and see it, regardless of reviews.
That's not because "Eww, gross, Barbie is for girls and I'm a MAN, dammit." That's because I'm lucky to see one movie a year in theaters these days. When my wife and I grab a babysitter, its usually not to go see a movie. We'd rather go out for a nice dinner, go to a concert, etc., so I'd rather use my one ticket a year to go see something that I really want to see.
I am actually going with my kids. My two daughters requested to see Oppenheimer with me, then one asked if we could do Barbie after it on the same night.
They are 24 and 22, however, probably not the age of “kids” you had in mind. English lacks a word for “young adult offspring,” other than that awkward phrase.
My kids are three years old and six months old so I can't quite get away with that yet. But you've paid your dues already so you've earned that right.
Maybe when Fast and Furious 30 rolls around I can my sons will want to take their old man to go see it with them.
Used to go out to movies 2-3 times a month.
Now I dont go out ever because while my brain will go “sure, let’s grab a $20 burger at the bar and drink $30 of beer and leave a $50 tip” or “$80 for a tee time + $60 in beer / hot dogs is money we’ll spent” it also goes “$18 per ticket and $40 for snacks is absolutely ridiculous”
I guess it isn’t where the $ goes, or how much, but whether that $ spent is worth what you’re getting. Seen too many bad or “meh” movies at the theater I regretted seeing at the theater. $6 on your couch is a better experience overall
Trying to find an IMAX with tickets to Oppenheimer this weekend has been extremely hard, everything is sold out. But don't want to see it on a normal screen.
I'm Barbenheimer all the way
I can't be the only one who quickly scanned the thread title and thought it said "Nudes"...right? Right?!
I've also just paid for one movie and just wenr to a second movie for free.
0.0 chance I could stay awake for two straight movies.
My wife and I are going to see Barbie early next week and will stream Oppenheimer at some point - I like Nolan movies but 3-ish hours of intense angst and tension just isn't that appealing in one sitting. Am really excited about both movies, though.
#TeamBarbie
In what turned out to be a very weirdly divisive moment in my house, my son and I opted for "Oppenheimer", and my daughter and wife both opted for "Barbie". We didn't mean for that to happen, nor did we even expect it to fall along those lines, but we did a show of hands and those were the results. My daughter has similar taste in film to me, so I would have expected her to be with my son and I on this one.
I get it. Greta Gerwig directed Lady Bird and Little Women, so you'd potentially get a nuanced feminist treatment of Barbie as a character, as opposed to Michael Bay who approaches his material with the subtlety of seven year olds playing Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots regardless of subject matter.
If I get to the theater for either, it would be Barbie. Looks more visually interesting. Not sure why I would need to see three hours of nerds doing math on a big screen, so I’ll catch it on Tubi
Wife wants to see Barbie. I suppose there are worse things than 90 minutes of Margot Robbie.
going to see Oppenheimer on the largest IMAX screen in the SE USA on Sunday. can’t wait.
I'll see both eventually. I already have tickets for Oppenheimer. The book was fascinating. My guess is that Barbie is at worst reasonably entertaining.
I plan to watch Barbie and Oppenheimer simultaneously.
I'm not going to see an in the theaters but if I was it would be Margot Robbie over history.
I'm an Oppenheimer kind of guy. Nothing against Barbie, but the whole "Now I become death" is riveting. Barbie put forth an unrealistic expectaion on our youth though, so there is that.