(OT) What's your Plan: Nukes, Pink, or Both?
Hugely-anticipated weekend at the silver screen. Last time we had a collision of counter-programming like this was The Dark Knight against Mama Mia! (yes, another Nolan film).
Anyone planning to see both Oppenheimer and Barbie this weekend? On the same day, even?
Raises my hand. On Friday night, we have 6:20 pm tickets to Oppenheimer then 10:10 pm tickets to Barbie (same theatre, different rooms). Question, do we need to walk out the exit lane and circle around to have our tickets scanned again? Which we probably have to do anyway, the food is "outside" the ticketed area and I seriously am going to need a caffeinated product in our half-hour between films. "Does that come in an I.V. bag?"
I mean, who doesn't want three hours of nuclear incineration topped off by two hours of pink happiness.
They could have saved some travel money and just checked out the Chicago police department.
Are you saying the CPD is taking part in human trafficking?
Just sexually abusing children.
Well. I have no love/hate for the CPD, but sexually abusing children seems like a strong accusation.
I haven't seen the movie and haven't read much about it but a good friend of mine has spent her life working for agencies that help children who are victims of abuse, including trafficking, most of it spent at Chicago Children's Advocacy Center. She think the movie is a politicization of trafficking and is being used as a tool (based on who financed and distributed it and who's in it), and does not think child trafficking should be politicized at all, either way. It's a very serious problem that deserves to be removed from any and all political discussions.
Ok fine. But asking if the Sound of Freedom is a movie or a documentary is a relevant question. As far as I know, it's a movie, so who cares about the political nonsense in the background. I like a lot of Miramax films, but I have NO love for Harvey Weinstein. I like a couple Roman Polanski films, but still think he needs to face a jury of his peers in the US for rape.
Can we just stop with the pushing things through a political lens? Can we just stop judging everything through crazy purity tests none of us can pass?
I just kind of did a dive into the financing of the film and I don't really see anything particularly political about it. It looks like 20th Century Fox owned it, Disney acquired it, shelved it, and then something called Angel Studios acquired it and largely crowd funded its release and marketing. It appears that Angel Studios has been involved with several projects involving religious themes including The Chosen, which a pretty popular show but also does not seem particularly relevant.
Having not seen the film, I cannot say for certain, but I have yet to read a review that mentions any political commentary in the film. I am not sure how the film "politicizes" anything, it seems completely void of any political commentary whatsoever.
If is just Caveziel, yeah he seems a little out there, but I don't really get into the politics of actors. There are so many actors and actresses that seem certifiably insane that if that was my rule I would not have anything to watch. I watch their performances if they are good. I am not voting for them for President.
Except for Keanu Reeves. I would probably vote for him for President. That would be cool.
Keanu for President!
LOL politicization of trafficking.
Either it is wrong or it is not. And getting the message out at ALL on a broad scale is important.
It clearly is wrong.
No one thinks it is not wrong you goofball. That is why people say don't politicize it. No one disagrees that trafficking is bad and we shouldn't stop it. ONE side is politicizing it to try to make it seem like their opponents are ok with it, which, of course, is stupid.
Basically, no one is arguing FOR sex trafficking. You can't have a true political issue when there is no real opposition to a stance. Don't buy the hype.
What interests me about the Barbie movie is an interview with the stars that suggests the movie tackles all the issues about Barbie.
That may just be PR fluff for an ordinary movie. But if it's actually a coming-of-age movie, the Barbie character exploring the Barbie phenomenon, that would be intriguing.
After all, men don't have to be afraid of pink. About a century ago, pink was considered a boy's color. Also, pink's an appealing color.
It's a movie produced by Mattel, maker of Barbie dolls, so it will only tackle those issues in the interest of selling more Barbie dolls.
Also, pink is a fine color regardless of gender. Pro tip: match a pink shirt/tie combo with a black suit. You'll look good, son.
MGoBlog: come for the sports, stay for the fashion.
Pink button down oxford and blue blazer was a great look when I was single. Pink plaid shorts with a white pullover shirt got a lot of positive attention, too.
1. Try to talk wife into watching Oppenheimer at theatre. Will probably fail.
2. Try to talk wife OUT of watching Barbie at home by buying it on VuDu instead of waiting until it's either free on Netflix or available to rent on Vudu for a fraction of the cost of buying the stupid thing. Will also probably fail.
Sounds like an interesting application of the "Battle of the Sexes" (or "Bach or Stravinsky") game. Fortunately for you, there is an equilibrium outcome where you get to see Oppenheimer. Unfortunately for you, there is another equilibrium (with equal probability) where you'll end up seeing Barbie.
Good luck!
This is the most honest and the exact answer that translates into my reality as well. Asteroid City just released for streaming, so I'm going to try that angle.
I haven't really seen many previews for Oppenheimer, but I'm curious if it is just about the development of the bomb or his years afterward as well. It's amazing to think that a man who played such an instrumental role in its development would later be blacklisted for his opposition to the H-Bomb (masked as his ties to communists).
It's also fascinating how many of the people that were key in the history of the bomb had later misgivings. This was supposedly Kenneth Bainbridge's (the director of the Trinity Tests) response to the successful test of the bomb:
Following the fearsomely successful explosion early in the morning of July 16, 1945, he congratulated J. Robert Oppenheimer and the others, then made his legendary remark, “Now we are all sons of bitches.” Oppenheimer later remarked that this was the best thing anyone had said just after the test.
It looks like it's about both- the previews show scenes from Los Alamos, as well as scenes dealing with Soviet nuclear bomb tests and whether or not there were spies present at the Manhattan Project.
My sense is that the film includes a heavy dose of the McCarthy hearings and Opie's grilling about supposed communist ties. The sequence of the secret Los Alamos development lab, successful testing of the bomb, Truman's decision to use it against Japan, many scientists' subsequent misgivings, followed by the hearings is truly fascinating. IMHO Opie is one of the most complex characters in our nation's 20th century history.
This reminds me of my summer of 2003.
I just graduated from UNC grad school and spent that summer living in the Raleigh area. I didn't have a job yet but was dating a beautiful girl at NC State so decided to stick around the area. I rented a room in a big house on a lake. The old lady that owned the place refused to turn on the expensive A/C so it was sweltering there all day.
Since I didn't have an office to go to I had to get creative to stay cool. I joined a gym and would spend hours there working out at a slow pace. Another plan was to go to the air conditioned movie theater around 11am then just hop around from theater to theater watching awful movies all day.
Those were the days.....
I feel this. That beautiful NC State girl? It was Barbie--you're Ken, and this is a treatment for a proposed sequel/prequel exploring his backstory: Barbie: The Ken Story.
SOLD!
Ill probably watch Oppenheimer when its free and never Barbie.
Yes to history and no to gibberish. Not a fan of flibbertigibbet. Eye of the beholder, I know, but personal preference.
The industry is marketing the hell out of both films, which typically means that, no, I won't be watching. Neither really speaks to me anyway.
How contrarian of you
When does the Mission Impossible movie drop?
I think it's already out? Not sure, despite the heavy advertising.
Of the two, I would be more likely to see Oppenheimer than I would Barbie. Personally, I enjoy Nolan as a director and think he's put out some amazing work. Do I feel compelled to go to the theater to watch his latest? Not really.
If only there were somewhere else to go for respite from the barbarians at the gate?
Somewhere where collegial spirit might bring the solace of hope and affirmation?
Where "you give me something to believe in" isn't just a "Poison" song.
A refuge and distraction from the mundane; that often enriches and nourishes the soul.
If only...
Just go to a golf course. Problem solved.
This used to be true. Little bit of left knee issue and left hand RA not cooperating lately. But I always felt both alive and invigorated on a course. Especially northern Michigan courses. Helps that I could vent off the tee.
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Very well done. Almost enriching...so to speak.
So you're going to see Oppenheimer.
I'm assuming that was a reference to Intrastellar, another Nolan flick.
Never saw it I just heard the barbarians phrase in passing lexicon and my brain stores useless trivia like it isn't. My thoughts are just on Brian's Song we muse over. Parables.
I'll probably see it eventually. But the Dylan Thomas poem came to mind after reading Romeo's post despite its use in Interstellar. Happy coincidence. :)
Though some may differ I believe we are still allowed to defy BPONE and find happiness.
My Dad is not doing well since Father's day and daily I witness him struggle against the night. Your poem landed in solace.
My sympathies go out to you as we're in a similar space. My hope is that your father finds peace and the light that is in and beyond the darkness, and can take comfort in it.
obvious answer:
Watch Dr. Strangelove instead? That's never a bad idea...
There's good reason to be suspicious of review embargoes, but with these 2 movies the motivation is almost certainly different: Oppenheimer reviews are embargoed to avoid spoilers and Barbie reviews are embargoed to maintain interest as long as possible.
Exactly what spoilers could there be with Oppenheimer??
That might keep me from seeing it just on it's own. I don't need some activist history-revising take on a pretty well established historical biography.
Yeah and at the end of Titanic...the boat sinks
Plot twist! In the movie, we never dropped the bomb!
I am confused. Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
we got a bunch of very manly men in this thread too good to go see a funny movie with Morgot Robbie in it.
Too manly to see a movie? Nah, just no interest in anything about the Barbie movie. But Margot Robbie? Loved her in Wolf of Wall Street, Suicide Squad, and, of course, I'd certainly let her sit in my tub, sip Champagne, and explain whatever she thinks I need to know about "shorting" an entire market.
"Fascinating! Tell me more, dear."
Ha - just now, prompted by your comment, I googled Margot Robbie out of idle curiosity, and the page is pink. Google knows what's up