OSU fans totally convinced last two years was from cheating.

Submitted by jtstag on November 19th, 2023 at 3:45 PM

FWIW looking at OSU boards is like an alternative universe. They are convinced last 2 years is from cheating .They are also convinced that the cheating is going to motivate OSU. I view it totally opposite. It would be nice if somehow in the next week the narrative would change.  NCAA done and found nothing. JH contract extension. Anything to stop the OSU driven media drum.

MRunner73

November 19th, 2023 at 4:18 PM ^

OSU fans need to watch those games again, play by play. But they can't bear to see the eventual outcome. Talk about arrogant fans. Bottom line is that they cannot face reality. The funniest thing is how last year's game ended in horseshoe (snake pit) when Donovan exploded on those 2 long TD runs to ice the game for Michigan.

Glad to see the OSU fans in anguish. I hope that they all stay in C-Bus Saturday because they are NOT welcome in Ann Arbor!

ST3

November 19th, 2023 at 6:03 PM ^

Excellent point. I know OSU places reasonably well in academic rankings, but I couldn’t tell you any programs that they are known for. At least with MSU, they are known for animal husbandry, cardboard boxes, turf management and rare earth ions. 

Njia

November 19th, 2023 at 4:18 PM ^

And they will think so because Connor Stalions gave them a reason. If we win this year, their excuses won’t mean much. Lose on Saturday and no amount of proof we didn’t cheat will matter.

three_honks

November 19th, 2023 at 4:22 PM ^

The NCAA investigation caused Chris Partridge to react badly over another nothingburger and resulted in his termination.  For the use of iPhones at public events (gasp!) when headsets or wristbands would address the concern.  

An overzealous focus on an archaic rule by a sclerotic organization that is not adapting to the present.

NCAA, meet the NCAA, they're the leeching, stone-age agency
From the, 1960s, they're outdated as can be
Let's ban, using iphone technology
Ignoring, the easy headset remedy

Njia

November 19th, 2023 at 6:56 PM ^

I would like to believe that Partridge simply over-reacted, I don’t have any idea what really happened. It’s certainly possible that he was more directly involved with what Stallions was doing. We’ll probably find out eventually - when JUB publishes his next book.

mblue1221

November 19th, 2023 at 7:15 PM ^

This is ridiculous, who cares if Partridge knew or did not know.

No one should be outraged that Partridge did or did not know about this.

If this was an actual legit thing, I.e. sign stealing is illegal and Michigan did it, then maybe.

But it’s not, everyone does the crap, a lot of teams use 3rd parties to get signs of upcoming opponents so it’s very hard to be outraged or concerned with anything coaches have done in response to this. Or outraged or concerned with “who knew what, when!” It’s irrelevant, because NCAA has not EVEN defined (other than university staff) who they consider to be “advanced scouts.” Per the rules, if Stallions was using 3rd parties to scout (that were not associated with the University), using his own money without university knowledge, Michigan did not break any rules nor did Stallions technically.  

Until NCAA looks into where OSU and Rutgers got all of Michigans Offensive and Defensive signals from last year, what Partridge or other coaches knew or did not know is irrelevant. 

Either punish all teams for having 3rd party “advance scouted” sign information or clarify the rules. 

 

Wendyk5

November 19th, 2023 at 4:23 PM ^

Of course they do. As for the cheating motivating OSU, if they need additional motivation, i.e. The Game isn't motivation enough, seems that they got their version of Rich Rod. 

M-Dog

November 19th, 2023 at 4:26 PM ^

I love this.  They cannot comprehend how the rubes from Michigan could ever be better than them.  They have all the recruiting stars.  They have the flashy offense and the NFL wide receivers.  They even have the Big Ten commissioner in their back pocket.

The Big Ten championship is their birthright.  No team from Michigan could legitimately take that away.  There must be some illegitimate reason when they don't win it.  There has to be.

So now . . . Ah Ha!! We found it!  It's because Michigan cheated. Of course.  That has to be it, it's the only possible explanation.  

Good.  Let them keep thinking that.  Let them think they've "solved" Michigan by kneecapping Harbaugh, with the Big Ten commissioner at their side.

Watching From Afar

November 19th, 2023 at 4:26 PM ^

OSU had Michigan's signs last year (and in years prior).

Michigan had OSU's signs.

Seems pretty even there.

Also, Stroud threw for more yards against Michigan than he did UGA, more than he averaged during the season.

Also, OSU will have their sign stealing guy working the sideline while Michigan won't so if they don't win this year without Harbaugh on the sideline... Jesus Christ pack that program up.

Carcajou

November 19th, 2023 at 11:28 PM ^

If it truly is a matter of player safety or the integrity of the game, all sign-stealing and relaying or sharing of such information should be banned.

Each coach player, coach, and staff-member should have to sign a pledge that they will never engage in such activity actively or passively. 
Any indication of relaying information re: signs from the other team? A warning. Next? 15 yard penalty. After that? Forfeiture.

Otherwise, this singular exception to permitting getting information regarding signs, playbooks, etc. from other schools, transfers or hires from opponents of players, coachs, staff, or from "anonymous" volunteer or third-party sources, is outdated and absurd.

zggolfer

November 19th, 2023 at 4:29 PM ^

I’m sure there are some students on Saturday that could figure out the signs by the end of the first quarter.  They could hold up run or pass and send the bucknuts completely out of their minds.  Down with Ohio State it’s a know nothing cooler pooping school.

FB Dive

November 19th, 2023 at 4:35 PM ^

“Cheating”? Unless you’re going to define any violation of the NCAA rules as cheating, then that is such an obtuse and inflammatory word to describe what Stalions did. He broke an obscure rule that was almost repealed in 2021 that no one knew about four weeks ago.  And if you do want to define it that way, then boy do I have news for you about how frequently Ohio State has “cheated.”

What a soft and delusional fanbase. 

Amazinblu

November 19th, 2023 at 4:52 PM ^

Just compare the half time, and full game scores.

Stroud and the Buckeyes receiving corps caught everything possible in ‘21.

OMG - I just looked at the weather.. high temps in the 30’s for the weekend with lows in the mid 20’s.  It looks to be dry…

I’m not counting chickens - but, I will be cheering loudly on Saturday.

Go Blue!

FlexUM

November 19th, 2023 at 4:55 PM ^

They don’t though, at all. It’s a way to cope. When you are down here in person the way they say it is like half embarrassed and sort of knowing it’s not real but it makes them feel better. 

I remember when I was much younger and anytime someone was bigger than me I’d say “they take so much steroids!”  
 

it made me feel better, kinda, but also was a little embarrassing and deep down, I knew pathetic. 
 

You Michigan fans need to stop parroting it though. 

bostonsix

November 19th, 2023 at 5:50 PM ^

The excuses are starting to turn comical at this point. I had a boss when I was in high school that never fired one employee because that employee came up with the craziest excuses for being late 95% of the time. He was impressed at his creativity and always made him laugh, so he kept him around even though he was very unreliable. Let's hope ohio state does the same with Day

abertain

November 19th, 2023 at 5:15 PM ^

The idea that Ryan Day is a bad coach seems ??. I don’t care for him, but he’s only lost 2x in the Big Ten. That’s hard to do as we saw yesterday. 

Ray

November 19th, 2023 at 5:17 PM ^

“Cheating” is Linus’s blanket to them.  Their Twixxer feeds are full of this big lie nonsense as well.  Let them have it, and hope that their players believe it 100%.  We know that they had our signals last year and that they changed their own.  Come the 25th there will be no excuses.